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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: What kind of crucifix is THAT at the SSPX seminary?
« Reply #70 on: October 08, 2018, 11:55:58 AM »
While your point about the importance and significance of the INRI are well taken, I feel that it's a bit too far to say it's not a crucifix by definition if it lacks the INRI.

Offline Matthew

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Re: What kind of crucifix is THAT at the SSPX seminary?
« Reply #71 on: October 08, 2018, 12:58:07 PM »
While I agree that the Mass is more important, my experience with hotels has been very bad. It would be better to celebrate the Mass in a large living room, a  garage conversion, a rented tent, or even a store front. In one case, a company offered their huge lobby on Sundays as they did not work on Sundays, and their parking lot was wonderful -- enough to accommodate all of us.

In larger hotels, conference rooms are sometimes situated between other rooms where loud music is being played at wedding receptions or speeches are being given at various multi-level marketing programs like Amway. Plus there are those hotel patrons who scream and yell in the hallways, even opening the doors to do so. Sometimes I think these disruptions are deliberately done because they see the sign pointing to The Mass.
I agree with this myself. I have experienced "humble Trad chapel" many times, and it's actually quite nice (I would describe it as "cozy"). But I have only attended Mass in a hotel room once while I was on vacation many years ago.

Better to have a permanent location for the traditional group to have Mass -- however humble -- than have to rent some facility.

Likewise, it's better for a family to live on 1/2 acre in a trailer home in the country than to live in a luxury apartment downtown with no yard or privacy.


Re: What kind of crucifix is THAT at the SSPX seminary?
« Reply #72 on: October 08, 2018, 01:11:17 PM »
Nobody ever said this was ideal.  What we're saying is that going to a Mass that pleases God is exceedingly more important than the environment.  I could probably go to an Orthodox liturgy and have it be more edifying this way than a Catholic hotel Mass, but I would certainly NOT be drawing closer to God in doing so, despite what the emotions would otherwise lead me to believe.
Please do not even be tempted to go to an Orthodox liturgy, and then in effect be under the Moscow Patriarch (MP), the Ecuмenical Patriarch (EP), or the Orthodox Church in America (OCA). Modernists and Ecuмenists have invaded those Orthodox Churches.

Communist agents have also invaded their seminaries and have become Orthodox priests and bishops. Yes, they also have problems with pedophilia, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, adultery, and even murder in high places. There have been rumors or eye-witness reports that some priests and bishops in the MP have been murdered by other Orthodox priests and bishops for not doing the will of the KGB or the current state police.

 Why do you think Francis hobnobs with the MP and the EP? They want to be one unholy perverted church -- the church of the Antichrist.

Some are saying that when the MP and EP join with Rome, then the message of Fatima will have been fulfilled. FALSE. FALSE. and FALSE.

Although OCA churches are found in many cities across the USA, they are no safe refuge as they have changed to the modern vernacular. I just did an Internet search. Some parishes are using "altar girls" -- need I say more?  Avoid them like the plague.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: What kind of crucifix is THAT at the SSPX seminary?
« Reply #73 on: October 08, 2018, 01:18:13 PM »
Please do not even be tempted to go to an Orthodox liturgy, and then in effect be under the Moscow Patriarch (MP), the Ecuмenical Patriarch (EP), or the Orthodox Church in America (OCA). Modernists and Ecuмenists have invaded those Orthodox Churches.

No, I would never go to a schismatic liturgy.  Thank you for your concern.  I was just trying to illustrate the point with a hypothetical example.

Re: What kind of crucifix is THAT at the SSPX seminary?
« Reply #74 on: October 08, 2018, 04:07:14 PM »
While your point about the importance and significance of the INRI are well taken, I feel that it's a bit too far to say it's not a crucifix by definition if it lacks the INRI.
Do crucifixes on rosaries all have the INRI?  I don't think so.