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Re: What is SSPX Resistance?
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2023, 10:39:40 PM »
It is?  Furnish a few quotes from Resistance bishops to this effect.  I have not heard +W or anyone else associated with the Resistance resisting the non-resistance of sspx.  As stated earlier, +W stated categorically that sspx has  done a good work in the past, and are doing it presently.

At the time of his expulsion, +W said he couldn't organize a 2nd SSPX, because he didn't have the authority. And even and if he tried to, the jews would infiltrate it.:laugh1:   In 2012, he effectively threw the towel-in on an active, functional SSPX Resistance.

HE's "Resistance" didn't form an organization to aggressively recruit and educate seminarians, to assist and reassign defecting neo-SSPX priests or to assist priests at independent chapels.  The SSPX ate these vulnerable chapels for lunch.

With HE's Resistance, we get his EC's and few ordained men per year.
That's all Bishop Williamson represents, a passive resistance. 

But as Orestes said, the Traditional Catholic resistance doesn't depend on titular SSPX Resistance leader to survive.
It is organic and has been carrying on since before +ABL.

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Re: What is SSPX Resistance?
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2023, 10:46:44 PM »
So in the 1962 Holy Week, do you genuflect for the conversion of the Jєωs, like the rest of the SSPX?  :popcorn:




Isn't it awkward to go to an SSPX chapel on Good Friday and not genuflect for the conversion of the Joos? 


Re: What is SSPX Resistance?
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2023, 10:58:19 PM »
Isn't it awkward to go to an SSPX chapel on Good Friday and not genuflect for the conversion of the Joos?
You can’t be serious! Wasn’t it awkward for Our Lord Jesus to hang on the Cross while the spectators mocked and jeered?

Re: What is SSPX Resistance?
« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2023, 05:44:56 AM »
Isn't it awkward to go to an SSPX chapel on Good Friday and not genuflect for the conversion of the Joos?

Sure, it’s a little awkward, being the only guy in the chapel with the courage not to genuflect, but you get used to it (the obvious solution/preference is to watch the traditional Holy Week Good Friday online where everyone remains standing). 

But it shouldn’t be forgotten that the rubrics don’t pertain to the faithful; technically, you can take whatever posture you want, whenever you want.

Remaining standing later disposed me to chuck the experimental transitional abrogated Bugnini rites altogether, and also disposed me to resist our priest’s changes to the postures of the faithful during sung Mass when they came a few years later (standing when the priest ascends the altar; standing when he is incensed; standing through the Sanctus; standing through the Agnus Dei; etc).  Now I’m one of only 3-4 people of 550 who have retained the postures we used for the first 40 years of our chapel.

Add to that the congregational singing (ie., the new postures were to encourage this), dialogue Masses, and schola flapping in the center aisle, and the changes brought in by our Class of 2009 priests (we’ve had 3 of LeRoux’s initial class in the last 10 years) really add up.

You lose what you don’t fight to retain.

Re: What is SSPX Resistance?
« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2023, 07:32:40 AM »
Sure, it’s a little awkward, being the only guy in the chapel with the courage not to genuflect, but you get used to it (the obvious solution/preference is to watch the traditional Holy Week Good Friday online where everyone remains standing). 

But it shouldn’t be forgotten that the rubrics don’t pertain to the faithful; technically, you can take whatever posture you want, whenever you want.

Remaining standing later disposed me to chuck the experimental transitional abrogated Bugnini rites altogether, and also disposed me to resist our priest’s changes to the postures of the faithful during sung Mass when they came a few years later (standing when the priest ascends the altar; standing when he is incensed; standing through the Sanctus; standing through the Agnus Dei; etc).  Now I’m one of only 3-4 people of 550 who have retained the postures we used for the first 40 years of our chapel.

Add to that the congregational singing (ie., the new postures were to encourage this), dialogue Masses, and schola flapping in the center aisle, and the changes brought in by our Class of 2009 priests (we’ve had 3 of LeRoux’s initial class in the last 10 years) really add up.

You lose what you don’t fight to retain.
We at our chapel literally stand up only to immediately sit down at one point. We also stand for the Sanctus and Agnus and I always found that quite annoying.

Interestingly enough, today the priest read the Gospel and Epistle in Latin for the first time! And he read them in our native tongue before the homily. I wonder what prompted the change and whether it will stick, I sure hope it does.