Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

Author Topic: What is Immodest Dress to the SSPX Clergy?  (Read 8113 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Fanny

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 571
  • Reputation: +248/-408
  • Gender: Female
Re: What is Immodest Dress to the SSPX Clergy?
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2018, 07:53:13 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!1
  • Sometimes, the best for the soul is no marriage, specially today.  
    So very true.
    How wonderful would it be if everyone went into religious life...


    Offline Fanny

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 571
    • Reputation: +248/-408
    • Gender: Female
    Re: What is Immodest Dress to the SSPX Clergy?
    « Reply #31 on: February 08, 2018, 07:55:56 AM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0

  • Most of the time, there is barely a single young woman wearing a decent dress. At least it is my experience here in France.
    How awful.  
    Week by week is is becoming worse and worse here in the USA.
    The priests who allow such should be ashamed.


    Offline Mr G

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 2133
    • Reputation: +1330/-87
    • Gender: Male
    Re: What is Immodest Dress to the SSPX Clergy?
    « Reply #32 on: February 08, 2018, 08:05:08 AM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • The SSPX needs to give a sermon like this:



    Fr. Michael Rodriguez gave a powerful sermon, "Modesty, Salvation and Eternity", on the virtue of purity, practicing modesty, and the connection with the message of Our Lady of Fatima.

    Offline SeanJohnson

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 15064
    • Reputation: +9980/-3161
    • Gender: Male
    Re: What is Immodest Dress to the SSPX Clergy?
    « Reply #33 on: February 08, 2018, 09:03:12 AM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Can't say as I have ever noticed a reluctance to speak about modesty, despite our local priests being transferred every couple years.

    Not saying it couldn't be an issue elsewhere, but we have had 3 priests since mid-2012, and they have all mentioned proper attire at Mass.

    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    Online Stubborn

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 13825
    • Reputation: +5568/-865
    • Gender: Male
    Re: What is Immodest Dress to the SSPX Clergy?
    « Reply #34 on: February 08, 2018, 02:09:37 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • ^^^^Same here.

    The last priest we had gave a series of very good sermons over 8 - 10 weeks on modesty. The chapel needed it too, and it's been working. We're lucky.

    The current priest said he plans to give sermons on only the sacraments over the rest of the year - so far they've been pretty good too.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


    Offline Student of Qi

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 574
    • Reputation: +295/-49
    • Gender: Male
    Re: What is Immodest Dress to the SSPX Clergy?
    « Reply #35 on: February 08, 2018, 03:41:49 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Where is Fr. Michael Rodriguez now? Does anyone know? I haven't yet looked at the above sermon nor heard anything else about him for a couple of years now.
    Many people say "For the Honor and Glory of God!" but, what they should say is "For the Love, Glory and Honor of God". - Fr. Paul of Moll

    Offline Fanny

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 571
    • Reputation: +248/-408
    • Gender: Female
    Re: What is Immodest Dress to the SSPX Clergy?
    « Reply #36 on: February 08, 2018, 06:20:10 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • The SSPX needs to give a sermon like this:



    Fr. Michael Rodriguez gave a powerful sermon, "Modesty, Salvation and Eternity", on the virtue of purity, practicing modesty, and the connection with the message of Our Lady of Fatima.
    Where is fr. Rodriguez and how may I get in touch with him?

    Offline Mega-fin

    • Jr. Member
    • **
    • Posts: 371
    • Reputation: +249/-96
    • Gender: Male
    Re: What is Immodest Dress to the SSPX Clergy?
    « Reply #37 on: February 08, 2018, 07:27:29 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Where is Fr. Michael Rodriguez now? Does anyone know? I haven't yet looked at the above sermon nor heard anything else about him for a couple of years now.
    Check the newly rebranded Fatima Center. 
    Please disregard everything I have said; I have tended to speak before fact checking.


    Offline Amakusa

    • Jr. Member
    • **
    • Posts: 206
    • Reputation: +57/-77
    • Gender: Male
    Re: What is Immodest Dress to the SSPX Clergy?
    « Reply #38 on: February 09, 2018, 02:27:34 AM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote
    Can't say as I have ever noticed a reluctance to speak about modesty, despite our local priests being transferred every couple years.

    Not saying it couldn't be an issue elsewhere, but we have had 3 priests since mid-2012, and they have all mentioned proper attire at Mass

    When they do speak about it, their words have no strength. They don't preach so as to urge people to mend their ways.

    Padre Pio scourged immodest women with his white rope, and he refused the sacraments to them. Our priests have not the courage to do so, they claim that it would cause departures. One day, Abbot Régis de Caqueray wrote an article about modesty, but the text was weak and feminist. That's an effeminate mentality.

    Offline Mr G

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 2133
    • Reputation: +1330/-87
    • Gender: Male
    Re: What is Immodest Dress to the SSPX Clergy?
    « Reply #39 on: February 09, 2018, 07:44:24 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Where is Fr. Michael Rodriguez now? Does anyone know? I haven't yet looked at the above sermon nor heard anything else about him for a couple of years now.
    Try here: http://svfonline.org/

    Offline Last Tradhican

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 6293
    • Reputation: +3327/-1937
    • Gender: Male
    Re: What is Immodest Dress to the SSPX Clergy?
    « Reply #40 on: February 13, 2018, 07:48:29 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • When they do speak about it, their words have no strength. They don't preach so as to urge people to mend their ways.

    Padre Pio scourged immodest women with his white rope, and he refused the sacraments to them. Our priests have not the courage to do so, they claim that it would cause departures. One day, Abbot Régis de Caqueray wrote an article about modesty, but the text was weak and feminist. That's an effeminate mentality.
    Very good point. They rarely speak about modesty, chastity, and purity, and when they do it is as if they were forced to do it against their will.
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24


    Offline Last Tradhican

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 6293
    • Reputation: +3327/-1937
    • Gender: Male
    Re: What is Immodest Dress to the SSPX Clergy?
    « Reply #41 on: February 13, 2018, 07:50:14 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • When they do speak about it, their words have no strength. They don't preach so as to urge people to mend their ways.

    Padre Pio scourged immodest women with his white rope, and he refused the sacraments to them. Our priests have not the courage to do so, they claim that it would cause departures. One day, Abbot Régis de Caqueray wrote an article about modesty, but the text was weak and feminist. That's an effeminate mentality.
    That is why Padre Pio had a following from all over the world and the SSPX priests can hardly hold onto their congregation in the neighborhood.
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

    Offline Last Tradhican

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 6293
    • Reputation: +3327/-1937
    • Gender: Male
    Re: What is Immodest Dress to the SSPX Clergy?
    « Reply #42 on: March 14, 2018, 09:43:38 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!1
  • Quote from: AlligatorDicax on Tue Mar 13 2018 23:35:55 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
    Your sentence was very confusing as you posted it: It appeared to contain an editing error that wasn't detected before posting, e.g., having some necessary words deleted by mistake.  You can't expect readers to understand your use of an entire clause as a compound adjective (must you even try?) when you fail to insert the hyphens (e.g., as in green above) that grammatically change that clause into a compound adjective that's correctly parsable.  Much better yet, how about "Latina women are the group most affected by this mind-set of dressing provocatively to attract men"?

    Ugh!  Young Latina women, of whom there is no shortage in Central Florida, seem to consider obesity a characteristic to be flaunted instead of disguised, unlike women of nonLatina cultures in the U.S.A.   I'm fascinated that your, um, model displays what might be called platform buttocks: a characteristic that I've been told is typically negroid.  Altho' from the colonization history of the New World, we should not be surprised that such genes would manifest in various Latinas.  Pregnancy and recovery from the weight-gain once routinely recommended by physicians during pregnancies seems not to explain the majority of the obese young Latinas.  Perhaps if the young Latinas I am routinely sighting from day-to-day were of their "educated" class, e.g., college coeds or degree-bearing professionals, their attitudes and my overall impressions might be different?

    We in Central Florida are enduring the arrival of on the order of 100,000 Puerto Ricans over the past 6 months (numbers waved around range loosely from 1/2 to 3 times that round number), blamed on the devastation caused by Hurricane Maria, but to keep this on topic, I expect their clothing styles to be more of the same.  Perhaps you're getting some of our overflow?

    Maybe your photo would be worthwhile in a CathInfo topic from 2 months ago in a different subforum:
    •  <https://www.cathinfo.com/health-and-nutrition/40-percent-of-u-s-adults-are-obese/>?
    From my perspective here, the "40%" is rolling-on-the-floor-laughably low as an estimate.

    So with all that "bouncing" from man to man, when do those Latinas find time to settle into a validCatholic marriage during which they produce "their daughters"?   Shouldn't spinsterhood act as a genealogical dead-end for Latinas who teach "the same error" [†] that left them as spinsters?

    -------
    Note †: You are wearing blinders that prevent you from considering another habit that I've been told Latina mothers teach to daughters; it could be a severe error in treatment of any man who has self-respect, thus killing a romantic relationship that might otherwise lead to a Catholic marriage.  But it doesn't fit your agenda, and I concede that it would be off-topic.
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

    Offline Last Tradhican

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 6293
    • Reputation: +3327/-1937
    • Gender: Male
    Re: What is Immodest Dress to the SSPX Clergy?
    « Reply #43 on: March 14, 2018, 09:45:14 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: AlligatorDicax on Tue Mar 13 2018 23:35:55 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
    Your sentence was very confusing as you posted it: It appeared to contain an editing error that wasn't detected before posting, e.g., having some necessary words deleted by mistake.  You can't expect readers to understand your use of an entire clause as a compound adjective (must you even try?) when you fail to insert the hyphens (e.g., as in green above) that grammatically change that clause into a compound adjective that's correctly parsable.  Much better yet, how about "Latina women are the group most affected by this mind-set of dressing provocatively to attract men"?

    Ugh!  Young Latina women, of whom there is no shortage in Central Florida, seem to consider obesity a characteristic to be flaunted instead of disguised, unlike women of nonLatina cultures in the U.S.A.   I'm fascinated that your, um, model displays what might be called platform buttocks: a characteristic that I've been told is typically negroid.  Altho' from the colonization history of the New World, we should not be surprised that such genes would manifest in various Latinas.  Pregnancy and recovery from the weight-gain once routinely recommended by physicians during pregnancies seems not to explain the majority of the obese young Latinas.  Perhaps if the young Latinas I am routinely sighting from day-to-day were of their "educated" class, e.g., college coeds or degree-bearing professionals, their attitudes and my overall impressions might be different?

    We in Central Florida are enduring the arrival of on the order of 100,000 Puerto Ricans over the past 6 months (numbers waved around range loosely from 1/2 to 3 times that round number), blamed on the devastation caused by Hurricane Maria, but to keep this on topic, I expect their clothing styles to be more of the same.  Perhaps you're getting some of our overflow?

    Maybe your photo would be worthwhile in a CathInfo topic from 2 months ago in a different subforum:
    •  <https://www.cathinfo.com/health-and-nutrition/40-percent-of-u-s-adults-are-obese/>?
    From my perspective here, the "40%" is rolling-on-the-floor-laughably low as an estimate.

    So with all that "bouncing" from man to man, when do those Latinas find time to settle into a validCatholic marriage during which they produce "their daughters"?   Shouldn't spinsterhood act as a genealogical dead-end for Latinas who teach "the same error" [†] that left them as spinsters?

    -------
    Note †: You are wearing blinders that prevent you from considering another habit that I've been told Latina mothers teach to daughters; it could be a severe error in treatment of any man who has self-respect, thus killing a romantic relationship that might otherwise lead to a Catholic marriage.  But it doesn't fit your agenda, and I concede that it would be off-topic.
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

    Offline Last Tradhican

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 6293
    • Reputation: +3327/-1937
    • Gender: Male
    Re: What is Immodest Dress to the SSPX Clergy?
    « Reply #44 on: March 14, 2018, 09:48:32 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote
    Quote from: AlligatorDicax on Tue Mar 13 2018 23:35:55 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

    So with all that "bouncing" from man to man, when do those Latinas find time to settle into a valid Catholic marriage during which they produce "their daughters"?   Shouldn't spinsterhood act as a genealogical dead-end for Latinas who teach "the same error" [†] that left them as spinsters?
    They bounce from man to man having children with each one as they go along.

    A valid Catholic marriage? Maybe one along the way somewhere, then divorce and continuation from man to man from there.

    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24