Author Topic: What cane be done to get rid of Bishop Fellay as Superior? (Read 15605 times)

JPaul · « **Reply #75 on:** July 18, 2012, 08:30:19 AM »

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I knew the Society was in trouble a few years ago when they mailed me a flyer for an "active retirement community" for traditional Catholics that they planned to build in Oregon. Since when are priestly societies involved in speculative real estate development? The whole idea stunk like a kettle of fish.

Perhaps another ghettoization campaign, as with some rural towns where SSPX represents a bulk of the economy? It adds additional incentive to "loyalty".

Ah yes! and a fertile field in which to cultivate legacies.

Ferdinand · « **Reply #76 on:** July 18, 2012, 09:49:12 AM »

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Well stated, Ethelred. It's disturbing to think 29 voted that way but it's a reminder to keep vigilant. The 29 isn't representative of all priests and laity who oppose the deal.Bishop Fellay is holding back on a deal for now because he faced such opposition.

Thats what I meant by the 2 steps forward and one step back I referred to in my post.
The communists use this tactic all the time. If any opposition is sensed, they retret a step and wait till the cilmate is more favorable (more brainwashing needed). Remember by taking 2 steps ahead, even if they retreat a step, they are still one step ahead. When the time is right, they will take 2 steps ahead again. The process continues until all are docile, and ALL opposition is removed.

When will the time be right for the 2 steps ahead ? My guess is when they eliminate all fierce opposers. Thats the first phase, as I commented in a recent post.
The fierce opposers wont stay in the SSPX anyway. If they do, they will be marginalized and watched very closely and every word they say monitered.

This happened to me at an SSPX Chapel.
They chapel I attended knew that I was a sede. They interrogated me when I arrived until I told them where I last went to mass. From that point on......they watched and listed. Parishioners reported to the priest if I even mentioned sedevacantism. Very communist environment. 7 years later a bulldog priest was sent to the chapel, I believe to root out all sedes, and intimidate any parishioners that had any thoughts to attend sede masses . I then was booted, and 2 other families badly intimidated. One family moved away. The father of the second family was put under "obedience" by that priest to never attend the sede mass in the area.

This will also happen to ALL of you here, unless you are silent. If you speak out about ANYTHING contrary to the establishment, they will boot you too. Hope you have the grace to leave before it happens.

Folks, this is SO TERRIBLE!

Thanks Ethel for all your comments. You are an invaluable part of this forum!

The truth is "sedevacantists" don't exist.

They are merely Catholics, Traditional and Faithful (some a little rabid at times, but not any more rabid than many an anti-sedevacantist) that can't imagine that a material/formal career heretic/apostate can be Pope. A theologically tenable position. They are acting in accord with their conscience, they can't do otherwise.

Anyway, it is not a matter of faith!!! We really need to be charitable towards them... in the end they might be right.

Columba · « **Reply #77 on:** July 18, 2012, 09:53:11 AM »

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Those who experienced Krah beginning with 2005+ , already noticed this communistic atmosphere back then. But let's not blame him alone. He is just the henchman. The men who recruited him and and who're his business partners: Bp Fellay, Fr Pfluger, Fr Schmidberger, and some more. They have the same state of mind. That is the reason why they use a man who talks and acts like a STASI officer (STASI = State Security of the former GDR aka communistic East Germany.)

The legitimate questions about Krah are left unanswered by Menzingen like so many others. In a healthier environment, leaders would feel obligated to at least acknowledge such concerns of their followers. Unfortunately, the predominant weakness of modern society leaves most people, even trads, incapable of resolutely defending their interests.

John Grace · « **Reply #78 on:** July 18, 2012, 11:25:49 AM »

Philomena and Clelia,

Reading your comments, I have a question. We see the lengths Fr Rostand went to to try convince people that facts were rumours. Are you going to go through life convincing yourself facts are rumours? Can you outline why Fr Rostand, an alter Christus went to this trouble?

Also Bishop Fellay has been caught out telling lies. Why you seek to defend a liar is a matter for you but can you outline some of these rumours you refer to? Because one wears a clerical collar does not make immune them from criticism.

The PR stunt from Fr Rostand was a joke. Some gullible yanks might believe it but vast majority didn't.

John Grace · « **Reply #79 on:** July 18, 2012, 11:33:07 AM »

What the SSPX seem to dislike is critical thinking and feel very threatened by those who do question, those who are not beguiled by their "holy obedience". The stage managed exercise by Fr Rostand is a good example. The fact he expected people to believe him was remarkable.

I believe we should watch and pray but not pray,pay and obey.It's much healthier to watch and pray than be blindly obedient.