Author Topic: What cane be done to get rid of Bishop Fellay as Superior? (Read 15608 times)

Columba · « **Reply #70 on:** July 17, 2012, 06:41:05 PM »

Quote from: Clelia

There is nothing we can do without facts and even then, we can only act if given an opportunity. We cannot make supposition, or rant about either facts or truth, and make progress.

We have facts. Forums help us to find and digest these facts.

We know that Bishop Fellay is pursuing a deal with rome considered harmful and dangerous by the other three bishops. We do not know many of the details, but we can see that is because +Fellay has chosen to operate under the veil of secrecy although we have not been told why.

We know that Bishop Fellay admitted changing his position on the Vatican II text concerning religious liberty as a result of the talks with the Vatican:

http://thesensiblebond.blogspot.com/2012/05/rorate-already-passed-this-on-as-have.html

Bishop Fellay's picked man in the US, Fr. Rostand, cried "dishonest" in a subsequent interview against those interpreting +Fellay's admission as a change of position. In the interviewer's follow-up question of whether the SSPX had changed its position, Fr. Rostand could not answer and changed the subject:

http://www.gloria.tv/?media=300906

finegan · « **Reply #71 on:** July 17, 2012, 08:41:19 PM »

In large part, Bishop Fellay's problem is a PR one -- and it's of his own making. There has been too much secrecy, hidden negotiations, flimsy publicity stunts, etc. The Catholic Faith and Tradition should stand on their own. They should be proclaimed in broad daylight, in full view of both friend and foe. There is no reason for deals, compromises and agreements or any sort with modernists. The current leadership in Menzingen has squandered the good will built by Archbishop Lefebrve and others for over 40 years. Bishop Fellay's actions, regardless of their true intent (good or bad) have been clumsy and ham-handed. If nothing else, he should be replaced as superior general on the basis of incompetence alone.

I knew the Society was in trouble a few years ago when they mailed me a flyer for an "active retirement community" for traditional Catholics that they planned to build in Oregon. Since when are priestly societies involved in speculative real estate development? The whole idea stunk like a kettle of fish.

Personally, I will never again have full confidence in the SSPX so long as Bernard Fellay is its leader.

Ethelred · « **Reply #72 on:** July 18, 2012, 03:01:34 AM »

Quote from: Columba

That is a non sequitur. It does not follow that we should close our eyes to signs of an impending storm because we have not prayed long or hard enough.

Was Archbishop Lefebvre entreated to do nothing but pray, pay, and obey forty years ago? If so, it is a good thing he did not listen.

That's why Our Lord told us: watch and pray. (Not pray and watch, but watch and pray.)

And the man of God, Bishop Williamson always says this, too:
Watch and pray
Watch and pray
Fifteen mysteries every day

Dear Emerentiana, you're right: there's a communistic atmosphere in the SSPX by now. Several anti-modernistic SSPX priests from various European countries say exactly that. So it's not the barmy idea of some Internet nuts, but reports of our brave priests from the front. No down-votes on this forum can cause to vanish this reality. In the parishes there's a similar atmosphere rising. We who support the anti-modernistic SSPX priests and bishops are now under observation.

Those who experienced Krah beginning with 2005+ , already noticed this communistic atmosphere back then. But let's not blame him alone. He is just the henchman. The men who recruited him and and who're his business partners: Bp Fellay, Fr Pfluger, Fr Schmidberger, and some more. They have the same state of mind. That is the reason why they use a man who talks and acts like a STASI officer (STASI = State Security of the former GDR aka communistic East Germany.)

The brave Fr Pfeiffer said in , that the bad fruits of dealing with New-Rome is (amongst others) lies and terror. We see it in the SSPX now. Menzingen brings terror upon the faithful priests and bishops. What else can we expect from Bp Fellay who's in a state of diabolical disorientation, as Fr Pfeiffer described it in his famous Pentecost sermon?

So, let's watch and pray.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #73 on:** July 18, 2012, 03:08:41 AM »

The whole tenor of society seems to more demonic by the day.

One can read the novels of the 19th Century and the villains seem like tame men compared to the types we're dealing with now.

We're dealing with the spiritual heirs of the Marquis de Sade and 1789.

Look at Cardinal Daneels and his files from the Dutroux case.

We are dealing with wicked, knavish men, and ruthlessly cynical clerics who employ them.

And worst of all the laity have become lax and corrupted in their thinking.

And then there are the pagans who are becoming like ogres and the men of sodom, and they are the ones with the predominant influence over the young.

ultrarigorist · « **Reply #74 on:** July 18, 2012, 07:08:13 AM »

Quote from: finegan

I knew the Society was in trouble a few years ago when they mailed me a flyer for an "active retirement community" for traditional Catholics that they planned to build in Oregon. Since when are priestly societies involved in speculative real estate development? The whole idea stunk like a kettle of fish.

Perhaps another ghettoization campaign, as with some rural towns where SSPX represents a bulk of the economy? It adds additional incentive to "loyalty".