Author Topic: What cane be done to get rid of Bishop Fellay as Superior? (Read 15615 times)

Emerentiana · « **Reply #65 on:** July 17, 2012, 03:27:23 PM »

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Well stated, Ethelred. It's disturbing to think 29 voted that way but it's a reminder to keep vigilant. The 29 isn't representative of all priests and laity who oppose the deal.Bishop Fellay is holding back on a deal for now because he faced such opposition.

Thats what I meant by the 2 steps forward and one step back I referred to in my post.
The communists use this tactic all the time. If any opposition is sensed, they retret a step and wait till the cilmate is more favorable (more brainwashing needed). Remember by taking 2 steps ahead, even if they retreat a step, they are still one step ahead. When the time is right, they will take 2 steps ahead again. The process continues until all are docile, and ALL opposition is removed.

When will the time be right for the 2 steps ahead ? My guess is when they eliminate all fierce opposers. Thats the first phase, as I commented in a recent post.
The fierce opposers wont stay in the SSPX anyway. If they do, they will be marginalized and watched very closely and every word they say monitered.

This happened to me at an SSPX Chapel.
They chapel I attended knew that I was a sede. They interrogated me when I arrived until I told them where I last went to mass. From that point on......they watched and listed. Parishioners reported to the priest if I even mentioned sedevacantism. Very communist environment. 7 years later a bulldog priest was sent to the chapel, I believe to root out all sedes, and intimidate any parishioners that had any thoughts to attend sede masses . I then was booted, and 2 other families badly intimidated. One family moved away. The father of the second family was put under "obedience" by that priest to never attend the sede mass in the area.

This will also happen to ALL of you here, unless you are silent. If you speak out about ANYTHING contrary to the establishment, they will boot you too. Hope you have the grace to leave before it happens.

Folks, this is SO TERRIBLE!

Thanks Ethel for all your comments. You are an invaluable part of this forum!

Emerentiana · « **Reply #66 on:** July 17, 2012, 03:30:10 PM »

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Quote from: Ferdinand
A suitable response from the the 3 to the 1(and the office help).

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God quit you in his mercy! Hear your sentence.
You have conspired against the SSPX,
Join'd with an enemy proclaim'd and from his coffers
Received the golden earnest of the death of the SSPX;
Wherein you would have sold the SSPX to slaughter,
The SSPX princes and his peers to servitude,
The SSPX subjects to oppression and contempt
And the whole SSPX into desolation.
Touching our person seek we no revenge;
But the SSPX'x safety must so tender,
Whose ruin you have sought, that to God's laws
We do deliver you. Get you therefore hence,
Poor miserable wretches, to your death:
The taste whereof, God of his mercy give
You patience to endure, and true repentance
Of all your dear offences! Bear them hence.

~ Shakespeare (Henry V)

Bravo!!! :applause:

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Awsome! Who would have thought that Shakespere would have such an appropriate quote for this situation!

Clelia · « **Reply #67 on:** July 17, 2012, 04:08:56 PM »

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all the SSPX priests are very traditional and solid priests

Are the 29 who voted to exclude Bishop Williamson "very traditional and solid priests"? I realise Bishop Fellay has surrounded himself with those who share his view but to be fair to them they haven't celebrated the New Mass yet?

These that claim Bishop Williamson has been disobedient have still not pointed out where he is against the doctrine and church teachings? It is generally it is his right and duty as a Bishop to continue his weekly comments. He has a right and duty to preach and teach. He is a validly consecrated Bishop.

Were the SSPX names of the 29:9 vote given out ?

Aren't you too young to smoke? :judge:

Columba · « **Reply #68 on:** July 17, 2012, 05:23:45 PM »

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Perhaps The Bishops and their respective groupies do not, either. Perhaps they are on a journey, and instead of picking it apart and wasting time causing scandalous talk, we ought to spend more time in earnest prayer for God's Holy Will.

I suppose this is the stuff that sells papers, er, forums advertising; but, I suggest we deal in the facts the best we can substantiate them pray much, and stop looking like self-appointed authoities who really do not know what's going on , as we appear to 'lookers."

There's more yet to unfold, and I believe our prayers are much needed instead of our useless rant. Really. Useless. Bishop Fellay and Bishop Williamson probably could care less.

OK, I'm ready for my close-up now, Mr. DeMille. :faint:

Beautifully stated, Clelia. A few have been saying this for months, but it falls on deaf ears. The sensationalists, rumor-mongers, and speculators/scandalous talk/useless rant, would have to *gasp* close up shop. To do as you suggest would mean putting aside ego and self-importance.

In the end who of us can truly say we prayed long enough, sacrificed hard enough? I am guilty too and I expect to have to do much penance for my failings and shortcomings.

That is a non sequitur. It does not follow that we should close our eyes to signs of an impending storm because we have not prayed long or hard enough.

Was Archbishop Lefebvre entreated to do nothing but pray, pay, and obey forty years ago? If so, it is a good thing he did not listen.

Clelia · « **Reply #69 on:** July 17, 2012, 05:44:40 PM »

We may smell smoke; but we need to know exactly where the fire is so we can put it out.

There is nothing we can do without facts and even then, we can only act if given an opportunity. We cannot make supposition, or rant about either facts or truth, and make progress.

We must pray for light, understanding, and direction before shooting our mouths off about things that we do not know happened or not.
We can only act upon absolute truth. All we have are bits of news coupled with many opinions, here. People want to throw Bp Fellay under the bus, give Bp Williamson a crown, and starve The Society's Chapel and Schools, because they are angry about reports that do not add up or tell all.

So far, a lot of nothing resulted.

:reporter: Horse shoes and hand grenades.