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Offline Incredulous

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What are the "Daughter's of Mary" ? (St. Mary's Kansas)
« on: May 09, 2017, 10:04:52 AM »
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    • Does anyone know the origin, purpose and current status of the "Daughters of Mary" at the SSPX school in St. Mary's, KS ?

    Was it organized by the SSPX Sisters to keep track of their students (i. e., an informant program) ?

    Does it still exist ?

    Thanks.
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    Re: What are the "Daughter's of Mary" ? (St. Mary's Kansas)
    « Reply #1 on: May 09, 2017, 10:16:34 AM »
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    • I know they have the "Children of Mary" for the High School girls, but I am not aware of the "Daughter's of Mary". Maybe it was before my time.
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    Re: What are the "Daughter's of Mary" ? (St. Mary's Kansas)
    « Reply #2 on: May 09, 2017, 10:45:55 PM »
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    • As a teenager I belonged to the Children of Mary. That was pre-Vatican II. We would gather together one Sunday per month, and sit in the first pews wearing a blue cloak (which I still possess) and a white veil. We dressed like that at home and walked to the church in that regalia in the days when being Catholic was publicly demonstrated.
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    Previous to that we belonged to a girls sodality whose name I can't remember but we wore red cloaks and white veil. Can anyone remember?

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    For women there was the Sacred Heart sodality and for men the Holy Name sodality.
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    Never heard of the Daughter's of Mary or the Daughters of Mary or Mary's Daughters.
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    Re: What are the "Daughter's of Mary" ? (St. Mary's Kansas)
    « Reply #3 on: May 10, 2017, 09:21:47 AM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on May 09, 2017, 10:45:55 PM
    As a teenager I belonged to the Children of Mary. That was pre-Vatican II. We would gather together one Sunday per month, and sit in the first pews wearing a blue cloak (which I still possess) and a white veil. We dressed like that at home and walked to the church in that regalia in the days when being Catholic was publicly demonstrated.
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    Previous to that we belonged to a girls sodality whose name I can't remember but we wore red cloaks and white veil. Can anyone remember?

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    For women there was the Sacred Heart sodality and for men the Holy Name sodality.
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    Never heard of the Daughter's of Mary or the Daughters of Mary or Mary's Daughters.

    I think I had the name wrong?  
    The "Children of Mary" sounds correct. Thanks.

    There are certainly more folks, including teachers at St. Mary's school who know about this group.
    From it's noble origins, I think it was misdirected and later used at St. Mary's to spy and report to the Sisters on other children who were deemed to be wayward or at risk, i.e. bad girls, non locals, misfits,...etc.

    If you ever wonder about what contributed to the problems at St. Mary's school... the misuse of this organization was one of them.
    But its a small town, so Lord have Mercy on them.

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    Re: What are the "Daughter's of Mary" ? (St. Mary's Kansas)
    « Reply #4 on: May 10, 2017, 10:22:54 AM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on May 10, 2017, 09:21:47 AM
    I think I had the name wrong?  
    The "Children of Mary" sounds correct. Thanks.

    There are certainly more folks, including teachers at St. Mary's school who know about this group.
    From it's noble origins, I think it was misdirected and later used at St. Mary's to spy and report to the Sisters on other children who were deemed to be wayward or at risk, i.e. bad girls, non locals, misfits,...etc.

    If you ever wonder about what contributed to the problems at St. Mary's school... the misuse of this organization was one of them.
    But its a small town, so Lord have Mercy on them.
    I know of those who were "Children of Mary" and those who are currently "Children of Mary", but have not heard of this. Do you have more information on why you "think it was misdirected" and "used to spy and report to the Sisters"?
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    Re: What are the "Daughter's of Mary" ? (St. Mary's Kansas)
    « Reply #5 on: May 10, 2017, 12:01:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mr G on May 10, 2017, 10:22:54 AM
    I know of those who were "Children of Mary" and those who are currently "Children of Mary", but have not heard of this. Do you have more information on why you "think it was misdirected" and "used to spy and report to the Sisters"?

    Thanks for asking.
    Got this firsthand, from an ex St. Mary's teacher who was involved in it.

     I used the word "misdirected" because they had "Child of Mary" students going through the suspect girls' belongings, while they were out of their dorm rooms.   

    "Organized Snitching", might be a charitable description.
    Easy to see how this could be "misdirected", when the commies employed similar informant tactics, under the guise of keeping their doctrines pure.  
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    Re: What are the "Daughter's of Mary" ? (St. Mary's Kansas)
    « Reply #6 on: May 10, 2017, 01:15:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on May 10, 2017, 12:01:09 PM
    Thanks for asking.
    Got this firsthand, from an ex St. Mary's teacher who was involved in it.

    I used the word "misdirected" because they had "Child of Mary" students going through the suspect girls' belongings, while they were out of their dorm rooms.  

    "Organized Snitching", might be a charitable description.
    Easy to see how this could be "misdirected", when the commies employed similar informant tactics, under the guise of keeping their doctrines pure.  
    That's odd as "Children of Mary" are for high school girls and thus they would not be at the college dorm. It seems that there is more to this story that would need to be known so as to make the situation clear before we can accuse the SSPX Sisters of using the Children of Mary as informants.
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    Re: What are the "Daughter's of Mary" ? (St. Mary's Kansas)
    « Reply #7 on: May 10, 2017, 02:25:07 PM »
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    • In Canada the Children of Mary was an organizaiton for children, boys and girls in the first 8 grades.
    In high school the girls joined the Sodality of Our Lady and the boys joined  Junior Holy Name Society.
    The girls could remain in the Sodality until they got engaged, the boys in Jr. Holy Name until about age 21.
    When the girls got engaged, they joined the Christian Mothers for formation and remained there for life.
    Each of the groups had their own medals, prayer books etc.
    Married people were not allowed in the Sodality.
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    Re: What are the "Daughter's of Mary" ? (St. Mary's Kansas)
    « Reply #8 on: May 10, 2017, 03:11:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mr G on May 10, 2017, 01:15:49 PM
    That's odd as "Children of Mary" are for high school girls and thus they would not be at the college dorm. It seems that there is more to this story that would need to be known so as to make the situation clear before we can accuse the SSPX Sisters of using the Children of Mary as informants.

    They have a high-school dorm program that used to be big (84 girls) but it collapsed.

    Yeah, entering the rooms and going through students belongings multiple times.  Who authorized the children?
    They had a secular director running the dorm, but not full-time.  The Sisters were not living in the same building.

    I'll stand by the word "misdirected".

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