TL;DR - If you are reasonable, you will probably be allowed here.

There is plenty about the Resistance that you can debate.

The following are positions ("officially condemned as errors by CathInfo") that are "tenable" even if they go against the Resistance and my own personal opinions:

The Resistance is hot-headed
The Resistance is imprudent
The Resistance is unlikely to succeed humanly speaking
The Resistance is a motley group of discordant voices that sometimes gives bad advice
The Resistance has no central leadership and/or leading Bishop
The Resistance is too Pfeiffer-centric
The SSPX must be preserved at all costs and/or given a chance (e.g., Bp. Tissier)
Related to the above point: The Resistance wasn't canonically founded like the SSPX was, so it's inferior even to the 1971 SSPX.
The R&R position wasn't meant to go Cryogenic (or go on indefinitely)
A deal should be reached with Rome, even if only a "practical agreement" setting aside issues of doctrine, so we can work to convert Rome "from the inside" (Accordista position)

On the other hand, anything that goes against the available evidence, common sense, or reason is NOT welcome here.

There is a huge mountain of evidence giving the Resistance legitimacy. This evidence doesn't come from twisted souls, depraved imaginations, the devil, or alternate news sites, but REALITY. Namely: official SSPX actions, docuмents, statements, and sermons taken from official sources.

CathInfo values VERIFIED sources probably more than most websites. Most CathInfo members are quick to ask, "Do you have a source for that?" and they are very quick to denounce rumors. Perhaps because they are tired of being falsely accused of being rumor mongers? Perhaps this is an example of where evil has been turned into good.

So the charge that "the Resistance is a bunch of warped, gossiping old ladies with over-active imaginations" was crafted to assuage the stinging consciences of the Judas-goats that have betrayed the SSPX and its mission. They need to believe this. Their conscience tells them EVERY DAY that the Resistance is where they should be.

When I see willful blindness and/or lying, I see malice. If these priests honestly held a tenable position (see the list above), they could be innocent. and they wouldn't have a palpable hatred for those in the Resistance, nor would they feel any need to LIE about them. They would only utter the truth.

If there were more Resistance faithful from Europe and Latin America posting on Cathinfo and telling us what is happening in their areas, it would be clear that the Resistance is not Pfeiffer-centric.

That is a matter of opinion. An opinion I happen to agree with, but an opinion nonetheless.

However, denying that 2+2=4, or that Bishop Fellay is pursuing an agreement with Rome -- that's not opinion. That's lunacy.

Or even the fact that countless priests (of different temperaments) have been exiled or "helped out the door" isn't a matter of opinion either. And no, they're not all hotheaded disobedient priests. Some just quoted Archbishop Lefebvre.

Anyhow, my point is that this thread is not the place to put forth your arguments; those arguments (as well as rebuttals) are welcome elsewhere in this subforum.

I confess that I do not generally post in the so-called Resistance Topics.  It is not because I fear "breaking the rules" or being banned.  It is because I really do not understand the Resistance.

I've read the topics.  I've listened to several "Resistance sermons" posted on CathInfo.  But I truly do not grasp what, precisely, it is that these priests are "resisting".  I suppose that is because I truly do not understand the "Recognize and Resist" position of the SSPX either.  

The point of this post, however, is not to discuss the ins and outs of the Resistance or of the Recognize and Resist position.  The point is, and Matthew can correct me if I am wrong on this point, too often people wish to post thoughts on the Resistance (and, indeed, nearly on every subject) that pop into their heads that are often antithetical to the Catholic practice of Religion.  

It is one thing to post facts about the Resistance or to post conclusions one may draw from the facts.  It is another thing to post emotional screeds impugning the faith of Catholics who are trying to "work out their salvation in fear and trembling," or attributing one opinion found in one comment upon the whole of those who identify with the Resistance.  (Frankly, CathInfo would be a lot better if posters kept this in mind in regards to all of the issues regarding the Crisis in the Church.)

I know   it all seems to be about BOD/BOB to me, and to me, that's not only NOT the issue, but it's just not our business. (Well it is: we can't go about saying, as Frank does, that everyone is "saved", or like psychos do, saying that there's a hole in Hell through which all will fall into Heaven. —old girl did NOT understand physics   ).

I see an imposter priest online, on Facebook, constantly starting a row now between the Society 'factions' (that wouldn't be factions without such powerful men, mind you). Really, the Society just has mostly a PR problem. The SSPX drop-kicked Bp. Williamson because it made them look bad, to the world, about which the Church should not care, but one side thinks "lets draw more flies with honey and quietly martyr the guy," while the other side is (like me) "Uh, yeah that's what the Pharisees wanted to do and it didn't work out so well for them so um, no way Josie!" (And other less-sundry things). But we can't say that's all it's about, because TPTB would ream us one, so we make the struggle about something else. Is the Dope pope (Resistance, +1!)? And BOD/BOB (eh, probably give it to the ones siding with St. Thomas though he meant special cases, unlike Bergoglio means.)

BOD BOD BOD... so stupid. GOD decides that. If you are doing God's will and headed to the Baptismal font when your head gets chopped off, God's going to judge you like He judges us all, and do the right thing, since He knows if you were headed to a brothel or a baptismal font. As for the "everyone lives" conciliarists: no honey, if you're Baptised and "good to go" but raping kids in the name of God, you drop straight to Hell. The new conciliar church MIGHT try to get rid of the name of in latae sententiae excommunications, but conciliarists who want one world faith center of buddhist peace communism can't change God and Church! It doesn't MATTER what they say or do because they're on one side of a chasm, and Catholics are on the other. And raping kids in God's name, no matter how many times you're Baptised with the one Baptism they [used to] profess, gets you where you need to go, as God doesn't MAKE mistakes, and there's a Hell for a reason. (De fide? Maybe not in those words, but I'd guess so. Sorry no proofs, Matthew. Except the entire Church history until Wormword Vatican II.)

But it ALL basically boils down to power struggles and ideas for reconciliation with what used to be known as the Church, and finally how TPTB treated Bp. Williamson. But God's in control. I still love that mantra Julian of Norwich said came from God Himself: "All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well"

Sorry my opinion isn't that verified. The one verification would get my identity blown, and while I don't care about my identity overly much, I spoke out of turn on FE after my mother passed (nothing bad, mind you, but I was new to forums and definitely grieving, and praising priests that would offend other priests), and basically might cause SSPX War III, as I'm sure we ALL feel we might do. I live in VA if that means anything to anyone. My priests (3, actually, plus a 'mystery' one from the conciliarists who is there to help those souls who want Church and aren't finding it) — all very half-decent people at least, and one "great" but with ego problems — are not overly fond of each other; do not recognize each other, even! Shoot there are times I think one "faction" would send someone home (or to a Lutheran gαy-marriage hellhole) than to a closer "faction". Oh, and they seem to be going quite vociferously for the same unhappy indults, you know, to build up their side? (More positively, I hope, to save the poor indults from what they unknowingly signed on to.) But that, TKGS, is the problem: PR. Felley knows Frank wouldn't have us back (DEO GRATIAS! I think Fellay breathes a sigh of relief at that one; his "R&R" is waiting for Frank to croak and hoping there's a Pope in a sea of demons! And he may be right: God could wash the current red-hats out to sea, minus the few decent ones here and there, but I don't see where the NEW cards would come from. They don't have The Offices, for Heaven's sake!). At least I hope Fellay knows that. ...Or my insight might just be local/parishioner-only level. But oh it's real fun here, though. WHEW! They don't talk BOB/BOD/BOW/BOX or any of the loftier topics you hear on here or YT or podcast talks. Nope: here the priests talk about each other. In ways men of the cloth should just never speak about anybody, cf Jude! SPEAK THE OFFICES, I say, ...but what do I know.

Where are you from, TK? (General area? Just curious. :) What part of U.S., if applicable?) I do wonder if there's more of a "community effort" elsewhere between the "factions". I tell you it nearly came TO BLOWS (physical ones) here. (Well, Maryland/DC to be exact, IIRC.) Very sad. Because the conciliarists and Masons LOVE it. Egg it on, I fear. Why? I'd guess the Masons pay attention to us because we're the last of the lot ("we" being inclusive of independent chapels, CMRI, SSPV, SSPX, maybe FSSP and FFI, other... Catholics who are trying to hold onto what we had for a few thousand years.)

Sorry so long. TL/DR: It's really about PR and human power struggles fostered by Freemasons who love seeing us battle it out. I think I've blown my Confession just thinking of these things, and will sit out (esp since Mass is in a few hours; MAN! Ora pro me. PLEASE!)

I almost couldn't find this thread...so it's time for a BUMP!