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Offline hollingsworth

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What about the woman visionary?
« on: August 22, 2015, 03:13:58 PM »
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  • http://sspxkorea.org/board/board_view.html?board_data_id=408677&config_id=5147

    title : Bishop Fellay and the Peace Plan Proposed by the Mother of God
    name : marie  date : 2012-10-02 14:30:10

    I continue to be intrigued by a page on the Korea SSPX-MC website.  It's been up since 2012.  The site's owner (Fr. Chazal?)  has not deemed to remove the page.  Maybe he, or the site manager presently, has forgotten it is still there.  
    In any case, the page opens with a summary of events beginning with an alleged appearance of Our Lady in 2004 to a layman, a woman who resides in the U.S.  Our Lady is reported to have given this layman a message during a Mass at an SSPX chapel in Ohio.  Our Lady asked in this message that Bp. Fellay be instructed to conduct a Rosary Crusade for the specific intention of Consecrating Russia to her Immaculate Heart.   We know, of course, that Her request was not carried out, either in 2006 or in 2008.  Bp. Fellay failed to obey Our Lady's request.
    After this brief summary, another segment is added to the page, indicating that 1)Bp. Williamson had found the woman and her vision(s) worthy of belief, and that 2) Bp. Fellay had (deliberately?) disobeyed her specific instruction in two RCs thereafter, and 3) should +Fellay refuse to conduct another Crusade for the purpose stated by OL, "it would be fatal for the Society.

    We know for certain that the SSPX-MC, headquartered in Boston, KY does not, apparently, dismisses the credibility of the woman seer.  At least Fr. Pfeiffer has indicated as much, both to me personally and to the "resistance" faithful at large.   How does Fr. Hewko feel about her, I do not know.  How does Fr. Chazal feel? Again, I do not know, except to say that the page reprinted below is still up on the SSPX-MC site in Korea.

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    On April 24, 2004, Good Shepherd Sunday,
    the Blessed and Ever Virgin Mary, Mother of God, appeared to this laymanand gave a message to be delivered to Bishop Bernard Fellay, the Superior General of the SSPX.

      She asked Bishop Fellay to lead the faithful in a Rosary Crusade for theintention of obtaining the grace for Pope Benedict XVI to Consecrate Russia, in union with the bishops of the world, to Her Immaculate Heart.She promised that if Bishop Fellay will grant Her this request, She will obtain the Consecration of Russia.

    **Two occasion of disobedience of Bishop Fellay to Our Lady

    1) In late July of 2006 Bishop Fellay announced his plan for a “Crusade of the Rosary” to “obtain from Heaven for Pope Benedict XVI the strength required to completely free up the Mass of all time, called the Tridentine Mass.”
    It was the stated purpose for the “freeing of the traditional Mass.”

    2)In early 2008 the Blessed Virgin said that Bishop Fellay was, “not to use the Crusade for the (intention) of the lifting of the excommunications” that she described as “false.”

    She also said that if he did, “It would be fatal for the Society”
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    What has been demonstrated is, after a thorough investigation by priests of the SSPX and then by Bishop Fellay and finally Bishop Williamson, that they believe

    that the Blessed Virgin Mary has in fact appeared to this person and communicated what She wants Bishop Fellay and the SSPX to do for the good of the Church.

    Bishop Fellay has on two specific occasions directly disobeyed what he believes to be a direct command from the Mother of God while trying to fulfill her Rosary Crusade request on his own terms.

     
    If Bishop Williamson has conducted his own investigation and concluded that this message from the Mother of God is worthy of belief, he is obliged to make every effort to encourage Bishop Fellay to fulfill Her requests.
    He must not fail to come forward with his evidence in the public arena because this matter does not belong only in the private forum of an individual’s conscience.
     As to the rest of the priests that are knowledgeable of this matter, if they believe the visionary to be credible then they should plainly say so.
     It will do no good to remain silent on these matters until the SSPX is left in ruins and traditional Catholics are scattered to the wind.

    Blessed and Ever Virgin Mary, grant Bishop Fellay the grace to respond to her request as she asked, and to respond with trust in the providence of God and fulfill the duty that God has given him.
    It is not too late.




    Offline Matto

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    What about the woman visionary?
    « Reply #1 on: August 22, 2015, 03:21:12 PM »
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  • I don't believe it. But I do not have any good reason to either believe or not believe so who knows. I just don't believe. If this apparition came with a miracle like Fatima or Lourdes then I would be more likely to believe.
    In a Station of the Metro
    The apparition of these faces in the crowd;
    Petals on a wet, black bough.


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    What about the woman visionary?
    « Reply #2 on: August 22, 2015, 07:01:13 PM »
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    Offline RomanCatholic1953

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    What about the woman visionary?
    « Reply #3 on: August 23, 2015, 04:02:05 PM »
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  • O no not again. I say this woman is delusional.

    Offline Jehanne

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    What about the woman visionary?
    « Reply #4 on: August 23, 2015, 05:11:07 PM »
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  • The Blessed Virgin Mary has never appeared to me in any form whatsoever, nor have any angels, Saints, etc.  Do you believe me?  Do you think that I am being delusional?

    P.S.  It seems that women are receiving these so-called "visions" more than we menfolk; why is that?


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    What about the woman visionary?
    « Reply #5 on: August 23, 2015, 08:04:14 PM »
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  • 99.9% of all Living Catholics have never had a celestial vision. Even
    if the 00.1% does, they better test it and remain quiet. In most cases
    it is from the devil.
    Just sprinkle Holy Water on it and that will give you the answer.
    In many alleged cases, the so called visionary is lying.
    I highly suspect that this is the case with this woman visionary.
    O what a terrible sin of sacrilege to lie on this. Roots is pride, and
    I want to show off that I am better than other Catholics.

    Offline Lighthouse

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    What about the woman visionary?
    « Reply #6 on: August 23, 2015, 09:05:39 PM »
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  • I agree with RC1953.

     

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