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What about new SSPX chapels schools?
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2012, 07:30:37 PM »
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    If what was published a couple of weeks ago is true, the project will never get off the ground.   The purchase was made less than three years ago, correct?  It will be sold and the money given to the Novus Ordo.

    Theoretically they could build the seminary to turn new seminarians modernist, but they will have the existing Society seminaries so I don't see the need to spend the money.

    I could be wrong but I think they'd rather have the money.  The Third Way can still be accomplished via existing means.


    You may be right.  But Pope Benedict does want a hybrid Mass.  And the Novus Ordo Seminaries are incapable of producing even semi-traditional priests.  The only way of getting rid of Tradition is to do it slowly.  Of course, all the SSPX seminaries would be obligated to follow suit.  And I highly doubt that Bishop Fellay will be ousted.  They will need him for the transition.  As for the SSPX chapels and schools, they'll probably close most of them down and send us to the local indult parishes in order to better spread our priests around and with less travel.    
    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
    Luke 10:42


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    What about new SSPX chapels schools?
    « Reply #16 on: June 09, 2012, 08:12:48 PM »
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    If what was published a couple of weeks ago is true, the project will never get off the ground.   The purchase was made less than three years ago, correct?  It will be sold and the money given to the Novus Ordo.

    Theoretically they could build the seminary to turn new seminarians modernist, but they will have the existing Society seminaries so I don't see the need to spend the money.

    I could be wrong but I think they'd rather have the money.  The Third Way can still be accomplished via existing means.


    You may be right.  But Pope Benedict does want a hybrid Mass.  And the Novus Ordo Seminaries are incapable of producing even semi-traditional priests.  The only way of getting rid of Tradition is to do it slowly.  Of course, all the SSPX seminaries would be obligated to follow suit.  And I highly doubt that Bishop Fellay will be ousted.  They will need him for the transition.  As for the SSPX chapels and schools, they'll probably close most of them down and send us to the local indult parishes in order to better spread our priests around and with less travel.    


    Those are good points, especially your assessment of the N.O. seminaries.  I think we have three camps in the Church right now - the liberals attached to neverending novelties, the conservative N.O.s who want a respectful liturgy and the Trads.  The conservative N.O.s and the defecting Trads will be the basis for the hybrid.  The remaining Trads will be left out in the cold.
    For it is written: I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be dispersed. Matthew 26:31


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    What about new SSPX chapels schools?
    « Reply #17 on: June 09, 2012, 09:21:37 PM »
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    If what was published a couple of weeks ago is true, the project will never get off the ground.   The purchase was made less than three years ago, correct?  It will be sold and the money given to the Novus Ordo.

    Theoretically they could build the seminary to turn new seminarians modernist, but they will have the existing Society seminaries so I don't see the need to spend the money.

    I could be wrong but I think they'd rather have the money.  The Third Way can still be accomplished via existing means.


    You may be right.  But Pope Benedict does want a hybrid Mass.  And the Novus Ordo Seminaries are incapable of producing even semi-traditional priests.  The only way of getting rid of Tradition is to do it slowly.  Of course, all the SSPX seminaries would be obligated to follow suit.  And I highly doubt that Bishop Fellay will be ousted.  They will need him for the transition.  As for the SSPX chapels and schools, they'll probably close most of them down and send us to the local indult parishes in order to better spread our priests around and with less travel.    


    Those are good points, especially your assessment of the N.O. seminaries.  I think we have three camps in the Church right now - the liberals attached to neverending novelties, the conservative N.O.s who want a respectful liturgy and the Trads.  The conservative N.O.s and the defecting Trads will be the basis for the hybrid.  The remaining Trads will be left out in the cold.


    To wither, but not die... as we do have the promise, that like the Phoenix rising out of the ashes, in the end, the Church will return to its former glory.  Deo Gratias.  
    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
    Luke 10:42

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    What about new SSPX chapels schools?
    « Reply #18 on: June 09, 2012, 10:25:06 PM »
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    SSPX schools in the USA are teaching heliocentrism without any discussion of biblical geocentrism.

    SSPX schools in the USA are producing plays by the notorious sodomite Oscar Wilde.



    They understand what is science and what is not.

    They are able to separate the art from the artist.
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    What about new SSPX chapels schools?
    « Reply #19 on: June 09, 2012, 10:26:48 PM »
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    from Bishop Fellay's latest interview with DICI:

    Bishop Fellay: "It is still true—since it is Church law—that in order to open a new chapel or to found a work, it would be necessary to have the permission of the local ordinary.  We have quite obviously reported to Rome how difficult our present situation was in the dioceses, and Rome is still working on it.  Here or there, this difficulty will be real, but since when is life without difficulties? "

    Nadieimportante's interpretation:

    SSPX priest- we'd like to build a school in your diocese

    Local Diocese man in charge (LD) - sounds good send us all the plans and information

    SSPX- it's been three months since we talked, I sent you all the plans a month ago, any response?

    LD - no, the bishop has been very busy.

    SSPX - (pressures LD for a response and then) It's now 1 year and we've received only excuses, what's going on?

    LD- the bishop wants to know why you need a school, the diocese already has schools?

    SSPX - (something they can never say) our schools are different, we don't teach sex education, and we don't use the CCC, and we don't allow anyone but trad Catholics in our schools.

    LD- forget about it,  take that argument to Rome and see what you'll get

    END - no school


    This will be the inevitable outcome.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    What about new SSPX chapels schools?
    « Reply #20 on: June 11, 2012, 06:58:26 AM »
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    If what was published a couple of weeks ago is true, the project will never get off the ground.   The purchase was made less than three years ago, correct?  It will be sold and the money given to the Novus Ordo.

    Theoretically they could build the seminary to turn new seminarians modernist, but they will have the existing Society seminaries so I don't see the need to spend the money.

    I could be wrong but I think they'd rather have the money.  The Third Way can still be accomplished via existing means.


    The project has already begun.  I just posted images of the flyer I received last week.  The footings are being laid as we speak.  According to projections, it will take about 7 months just to excavate and lay the footings before the walls can be erected.

    3 months ago, we were asked to pray for this new seminary and, if possible, send in donations.

    Last month, we received word that, thanks to a generous benefactor, the construction could begin.

    That was printed in another flyer, which I don't have.  

    Please see thread on the seminary for pictures....

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    What about new SSPX chapels schools?
    « Reply #21 on: June 11, 2012, 05:54:36 PM »
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    If what was published a couple of weeks ago is true, the project will never get off the ground.   The purchase was made less than three years ago, correct?  It will be sold and the money given to the Novus Ordo.

    Theoretically they could build the seminary to turn new seminarians modernist, but they will have the existing Society seminaries so I don't see the need to spend the money.

    I could be wrong but I think they'd rather have the money.  The Third Way can still be accomplished via existing means.


    The project has already begun.  I just posted images of the flyer I received last week.  The footings are being laid as we speak.  According to projections, it will take about 7 months just to excavate and lay the footings before the walls can be erected.

    3 months ago, we were asked to pray for this new seminary and, if possible, send in donations.

    Last month, we received word that, thanks to a generous benefactor, the construction could begin.

    That was printed in another flyer, which I don't have.  

    Please see thread on the seminary for pictures....


    I wonder who the generous benefactor is.  That could be key. :confused1:
    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
    Luke 10:42

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    What about new SSPX chapels schools?
    « Reply #22 on: June 11, 2012, 07:32:34 PM »
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    If what was published a couple of weeks ago is true, the project will never get off the ground.   The purchase was made less than three years ago, correct?  It will be sold and the money given to the Novus Ordo.

    Theoretically they could build the seminary to turn new seminarians modernist, but they will have the existing Society seminaries so I don't see the need to spend the money.

    I could be wrong but I think they'd rather have the money.  The Third Way can still be accomplished via existing means.


    The project has already begun.  I just posted images of the flyer I received last week.  The footings are being laid as we speak.  According to projections, it will take about 7 months just to excavate and lay the footings before the walls can be erected.

    3 months ago, we were asked to pray for this new seminary and, if possible, send in donations.

    Last month, we received word that, thanks to a generous benefactor, the construction could begin.

    That was printed in another flyer, which I don't have.  

    Please see thread on the seminary for pictures....


    I wonder who the generous benefactor is.  That could be key. :confused1:
    I was wondering the same thing.
    For it is written: I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be dispersed. Matthew 26:31


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    What about new SSPX chapels schools?
    « Reply #23 on: June 11, 2012, 07:35:05 PM »
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  • I hope we aren't seeing a financial joint venture between the diocese and a newly regularized Society as an act of "generosity" and good will.
    For it is written: I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be dispersed. Matthew 26:31

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    What about new SSPX chapels schools?
    « Reply #24 on: June 11, 2012, 07:45:29 PM »
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    If what was published a couple of weeks ago is true, the project will never get off the ground.   The purchase was made less than three years ago, correct?  It will be sold and the money given to the Novus Ordo.

    Theoretically they could build the seminary to turn new seminarians modernist, but they will have the existing Society seminaries so I don't see the need to spend the money.

    I could be wrong but I think they'd rather have the money.  The Third Way can still be accomplished via existing means.


    The project has already begun.  I just posted images of the flyer I received last week.  The footings are being laid as we speak.  According to projections, it will take about 7 months just to excavate and lay the footings before the walls can be erected.

    3 months ago, we were asked to pray for this new seminary and, if possible, send in donations.

    Last month, we received word that, thanks to a generous benefactor, the construction could begin.

    That was printed in another flyer, which I don't have.  

    Please see thread on the seminary for pictures....


    I just looked.  The courtyard is designed in the image of an Egyptian ankh.  

    I think you're right.  The seminary may be intended as a flagship for the Third Way hybrid.
    For it is written: I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be dispersed. Matthew 26:31