Author Topic: What about new SSPX chapels schools? (Read 6224 times)

magdalena · « **Reply #15 on:** June 09, 2012, 07:30:37 PM »

Quote from: catherineofsiena

If what was published a couple of weeks ago is true, the project will never get off the ground. The purchase was made less than three years ago, correct? It will be sold and the money given to the Novus Ordo.

Theoretically they could build the seminary to turn new seminarians modernist, but they will have the existing Society seminaries so I don't see the need to spend the money.

I could be wrong but I think they'd rather have the money. The Third Way can still be accomplished via existing means.

You may be right. But Pope Benedict does want a hybrid Mass. And the Novus Ordo Seminaries are incapable of producing even semi-traditional priests. The only way of getting rid of Tradition is to do it slowly. Of course, all the SSPX seminaries would be obligated to follow suit. And I highly doubt that Bishop Fellay will be ousted. They will need him for the transition. As for the SSPX chapels and schools, they'll probably close most of them down and send us to the local indult parishes in order to better spread our priests around and with less travel.

catherineofsiena · « **Reply #16 on:** June 09, 2012, 08:12:48 PM »

Quote from: magdalena

Quote from: catherineofsiena
If what was published a couple of weeks ago is true, the project will never get off the ground. The purchase was made less than three years ago, correct? It will be sold and the money given to the Novus Ordo.

Theoretically they could build the seminary to turn new seminarians modernist, but they will have the existing Society seminaries so I don't see the need to spend the money.

I could be wrong but I think they'd rather have the money. The Third Way can still be accomplished via existing means.

You may be right. But Pope Benedict does want a hybrid Mass. And the Novus Ordo Seminaries are incapable of producing even semi-traditional priests. The only way of getting rid of Tradition is to do it slowly. Of course, all the SSPX seminaries would be obligated to follow suit. And I highly doubt that Bishop Fellay will be ousted. They will need him for the transition. As for the SSPX chapels and schools, they'll probably close most of them down and send us to the local indult parishes in order to better spread our priests around and with less travel.

Those are good points, especially your assessment of the N.O. seminaries. I think we have three camps in the Church right now - the liberals attached to neverending novelties, the conservative N.O.s who want a respectful liturgy and the Trads. The conservative N.O.s and the defecting Trads will be the basis for the hybrid. The remaining Trads will be left out in the cold.

magdalena · « **Reply #17 on:** June 09, 2012, 09:21:37 PM »

Quote from: catherineofsiena

Quote from: magdalena
Quote from: catherineofsiena
If what was published a couple of weeks ago is true, the project will never get off the ground. The purchase was made less than three years ago, correct? It will be sold and the money given to the Novus Ordo.

Theoretically they could build the seminary to turn new seminarians modernist, but they will have the existing Society seminaries so I don't see the need to spend the money.

I could be wrong but I think they'd rather have the money. The Third Way can still be accomplished via existing means.

You may be right. But Pope Benedict does want a hybrid Mass. And the Novus Ordo Seminaries are incapable of producing even semi-traditional priests. The only way of getting rid of Tradition is to do it slowly. Of course, all the SSPX seminaries would be obligated to follow suit. And I highly doubt that Bishop Fellay will be ousted. They will need him for the transition. As for the SSPX chapels and schools, they'll probably close most of them down and send us to the local indult parishes in order to better spread our priests around and with less travel.

Those are good points, especially your assessment of the N.O. seminaries. I think we have three camps in the Church right now - the liberals attached to neverending novelties, the conservative N.O.s who want a respectful liturgy and the Trads. The conservative N.O.s and the defecting Trads will be the basis for the hybrid. The remaining Trads will be left out in the cold.

To wither, but not die... as we do have the promise, that like the Phoenix rising out of the ashes, in the end, the Church will return to its former glory. Deo Gratias.

Sigismund · « **Reply #18 on:** June 09, 2012, 10:25:06 PM »

Quote from: Diego

SSPX schools in the USA are teaching heliocentrism without any discussion of biblical geocentrism.

SSPX schools in the USA are producing plays by the notorious sodomite Oscar Wilde.

They understand what is science and what is not.

They are able to separate the art from the artist.

Sigismund · « **Reply #19 on:** June 09, 2012, 10:26:48 PM »

Quote from: nadieimportante

from Bishop Fellay's latest interview with DICI:

Bishop Fellay: "It is still true—since it is Church law—that in order to open a new chapel or to found a work, it would be necessary to have the permission of the local ordinary. We have quite obviously reported to Rome how difficult our present situation was in the dioceses, and Rome is still working on it. Here or there, this difficulty will be real, but since when is life without difficulties? "

Nadieimportante's interpretation:

SSPX priest- we'd like to build a school in your diocese

Local Diocese man in charge (LD) - sounds good send us all the plans and information

SSPX- it's been three months since we talked, I sent you all the plans a month ago, any response?

LD - no, the bishop has been very busy.

SSPX - (pressures LD for a response and then) It's now 1 year and we've received only excuses, what's going on?

LD- the bishop wants to know why you need a school, the diocese already has schools?

SSPX - (something they can never say) our schools are different, we don't teach sex education, and we don't use the CCC, and we don't allow anyone but trad Catholics in our schools.

LD- forget about it, take that argument to Rome and see what you'll get

END - no school

This will be the inevitable outcome.