Thanks Niel-
I'll try to make this brief, if possible.
Do you know anything about how he got that honorary title? Or,
is it more likely that the fact that he has it makes you rather
uncomfortable? BTW, Fr. Perez was entirely aware before he
received it that by going public with that he would be heaping
burning coals on the head of his accusers.
Do you know anything about Fr. Frederick Schell, who selected
Fr. (now Msgr.) Perez to take up the reigns of his ministry when
he died? Are you aware of how Fr. Schell died or why? Or, are
you ignorant of such details and have no interest in learning?
Niel- I
do know how the received his title, Bishop Mar Thomas, and the story of his taking up the reigns at OLHC. You continue to ask me in this thread if I know: I do. Please don't think I would counsel someone to 'not' attend a priests mass unless I thought there was a strong case for doubt against going.
Second, you have announced that "he is dangerous" in your
uninformed opinion, oh, but you forgot to mention you are
uninformed. That makes it an ad hominem.
It's not an ad hominem- but a fact, indeed. He is dangerous because of his disinterest with issues of the New Rite of Ordination.
More below.
Third, you are spreading rumor, calumny and innuendo about
a priest, which is known as backbiting, or slander. More
ad hominems.
You are very loose with words, and I get the feeling you don't knwo what they mean. I am in no way involved with backbiting, rumor, calumny innuendo or slander against Fr. Perez. I am presenting nothing but facts; you have an emotional attachment to these things.
Did you know that Fr. Perez's chapel has, more than once, had a link to FishEaters on his forum? I've spoken him him in person and he's told hme that it is a forum he frequents himself. Perhaps you're on the wrong internet forum... We don't exactly see 'eye-to-eye' with them on most issues. I would bet that most people would agree with you on this issue from FishEaters and most people at CI would disagree.
For example, what do you know about the history of the
consecration of bishops? What do you know about what it
takes to have a valid consecration and what it takes to make
a particular consecration invalid? What do you know about the
history of the INVALIDITY of holy orders in general? Do you
even know the very first thing, or, are you much more satisfied
with rumor, innuendo, presumption, calumny, backbiting and
gossip? Maybe that's enough for you, because it's most
certainly enough for a lot of laymen that have no patience or
interest in researching "the issue." They're much more happy
to warn their relatives that they had better start being
suspect of every priest, every Mass, every baptism, every
Communion, every Confession, every marriage, every
Extreme Unction and every Exorcism. Hey, maybe all those
exorcisms were faked too? Maybe the devil is cooperating
with the whole thing and just PRETENDS to be giving up his
grip on souls so as to make the exorcist look credible!!
Ever think of that?
NO- I don't know a lot; let me get that right on the table. However, I know enough to have left the NovusOrdo, no? That being said, after seeing the practice of Archbishop Lefebvre and the SSPX (up until recently) in conditionally ordaining priests who were ordained in the NewRite or by NewRite bishops, and from further reading, I can see a clear problem with
not encouraging NewRite Priests to be validly ordained. My family was very close to Fr. Stretenovich when he came to tradition and my parents assisted him in his process. I have first hand information in seeing what Fr. Perez believes (or in this case, doesn't believe). I also attended the mass of a priest, and close friend, who was told by Fr. Perez that he
should not seek out conditional ordination even though he had doubts to his own ordination after much reserach.
These are "half truths" how?
Here is what is clear: Fact: Fr. Perez has no doubts as to the validity of the NewRite. Fact: He thinks its perfectly safe and so does not encourage people (Priests or laymen) to seek conditional ordinations or confirmations.
That is what's dangerous, Niel. You seem to believe as Fr. Perez does, and not the Archbishop. I'm sorry, I'll take the side of the Doctored Theologian who was the Saint of our times, over Fr. Perez any day.
Like I said, maybe it's time you realized there's a lot you don't know.
This is so very true. However, I hope I have been able to show you I don't take this issue lightly, and try to do as much research as possible. You have yet to offer substantial argument against this very important issue.
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