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« on: October 14, 2015, 01:18:19 PM »
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  • When he admitted to not knowing about the Fr. Chazal video, that was the last straw.

    Even if he is not some kind of agent provocateur (note how he's pushing us to actually be HARDER on Boston, and making the attack broader than most of us would want -- attacking Fr. Hewko too)

    He's basically asking that we throw ALL our chips in (say Fr. Pfeiffer AND Fr. Hewko are bad, not priests, etc.), or walk away.

    No thanks. I don't have to accept your false dilemma. In fact, I totally reject it.

    Just because a man supports the Tea Party, thinking the government taxes/spends too much, is too large, etc. doesn't mean we should take up arms. But that's exactly what an agent provocateur does: he agrees with you, and wants you to go FURTHER, usually into dangerous territory. Of course his ultimate aim is the harm of your organization (being discredited, shut down by the government, etc.)

    As a moderator, I'm not at liberty to be naive about such things. I have to be careful.

    In his case, I'm going to assume he's innocent, but he's posting too darn much for a man who claims to be ignorant of the existence of Fr. Chazal's video about Ambrose Moran. I heard about that video 10 times over -- e-mail, facebook groups, CathInfo, and I'm sure many other places. At the very least it's here on CathInfo, and if he's so "not up to speed" he needs to GET up to speed, at least before he posts 23 times in one day (before I cut him off!) How many posts would he have contributed in 3 days? 150? That's too much chaff for a person who is admittedly ignorant about the whole issue.

    Having that much free time to "contribute" also makes me suspicious. Long story short, I have intuition and experience in this matter, and I'm going to trust both in this matter.

    There's too much controversy and confusion already, to allow more needless confusion to be created.
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    « Reply #1 on: October 14, 2015, 01:34:11 PM »
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  • He claims to be Brazilian, and his sentences are full of the common mistakes that Portuguese speakers make.  He probably met Fr. Pfeiffer on one of the trips that he and Fr. Hewko came down here and instantly admired him because he is American and a traditionalist.  Many Brazilians admire Fr. Pfeiffer, unfortunately this includes priests, without really being informed about what is going on in Pfeifferville or even the problems between Bishop Williamson and Fr. Pfeiffer.  Brazil is like it's cut off from the rest of the world sometimes...

    So this poster is coming from all the cultural elements.  Add that to the fact that in general, (and this is speaking very general) Brazilians do not take great interest in reading because most already think they know about everything.  It is common here.  I just speak from what I see.  Now I'm not saying that people who are anti-book, anti-read are bad people, but that's the way it is.  I've heard all the excuses of "if your stomach is empty it is bad for you to read" and "after eating reading causes sickness"...I mean there is certainly a cultural element that discourages reading because people don't need to read if they already know all about it.  It is a perfect explanation for why many, many good books were never translated to Portuguese.  The largest Catholic country in the world doesn't have even half of the Catholic books in print that can be found in Spanish or English.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...


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    « Reply #2 on: October 14, 2015, 01:34:22 PM »
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  • Please unban me I'm not hater or spammer
    You may delete all my posts or hide them
    I can explain

    You confused the video issue: I said he mentions the Ambrose situation not the other things Pablo did. And in the video Fr Chazal says relating to Ambrose only as I said

    Thank you

    Please don't ban me, I'm not sede or anti-Trad, I'm with you

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    « Reply #3 on: October 14, 2015, 01:35:32 PM »
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  • As I said before, I've never met Fr. Hewko or Fr Pfeiffer. I know brazilians are dumb and arrogant, I'm just anxious and worried, I want the truth.

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    « Reply #4 on: October 14, 2015, 01:37:52 PM »
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  • To prove I'm not hater or whatever I said two times I only want to know why you gives live near them never asked them to speak the truth about the situation regarding what Pablo is doing.

    I believe in discussing this issue in public because we have nothing to hide.

    I never intend to push anyone to be against Fr. Pfeiffer, in fact many people here said mean things about him. All I said is logical: If Fr. Pfeiffer is letting a man that is was involved in black magic into the Seminary, then we must consider if he's a true priest.

    Please, unban me. Please Email me if you want me to clarify my statements or if you want me to retreat.


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    « Reply #5 on: October 14, 2015, 01:42:45 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
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    Please unban me I'm not hater or spammer
    You may delete all my posts or hide them
    I can explain

    You confused the video issue: I said he mentions the Ambrose situation not the other things Pablo did. And in the video Fr Chazal says relating to Ambrose only as I said

    Thank you

    Please don't ban me, I'm not sede or anti-Trad, I'm with you


    You may not be a hater or a spammer (that's not what you were accused of, by the way...)

    but your simple, honest layman self sure seems to have lots of IP addresses available to you as a matter of course. Regular people don't make use of proxy servers unless they have something to hide.



    It's called ipconfig /flushdns
    ipconfig /release
    ipconfig /renew

    you can easily done by typing Windows+R and type cmd

    What proxy??? I'm using a new ip given by my ISP. If ipconfig /release don't work , resetting the modem should do the trick.

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    « Reply #6 on: October 14, 2015, 01:46:15 PM »
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  • I'm not agent provocative  
    You thought that because I posted many times in different topics. Sorry this is anxiety and in fact I'm worried about people that attend to Fr. Pfeiffer Mass

    Shouldn't I post my worry here regarding this issue? Maybe. But how will I get the truth if not that way? as you already said the Ambrose thing happened two weeks ago and nothing was answered..


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    « Reply #7 on: October 14, 2015, 01:48:26 PM »
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  • Regarding the proxy now I know what happened

    I was given the message that I could not see the particular topic (banned from that topic)
    Then I'd typed "proxy" on google and entered hide.me
    Then I could read why I was banned. I couldn't read why I was banned if I didn't do that!


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    « Reply #8 on: October 14, 2015, 02:07:25 PM »
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  • Matthew, please consider this: read my answer

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    Quote from: Centroamerica
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    Plus: Why Fr. Chazal and Fr Hewko are covering this mess? They have the moral obligation to tell the truth, it does not matter whatever they may think, they have to say the truth. Period.

    If they refuse to say the truth about what's going on in the Seminary, how can we be sure they will tell the truth about their lives? their beliefs?



    Your comments really are all over the place and hard to keep up with, and it's not your English.  The few mistakes in English (like the use of the past tense auxiliary verb "did" combined with the simple past main verb in sentences) were easily understood by matthew and others.

    But jumpíng around on all topics and saying things that have no correlation whatsover with the rest of what you wrote...

    In this case you are asking why Fr. Chazal is covering (hiding) this mess.  Please inform yourself before making accusative comments about priests.  The entire forum has seen by now the video Fr. Chazal posted.  Don't add more confusion to this thing.


    I'm not accusing Fr. Chazal, what I'm saying is that I didn't watch any video of Fr. Chazal (or letter) saying if he saw bad things at Fr. Pfeiffer Seminary.

    If you could provide me a link I'd watch or read and then delete/retreat my position.

    What I've said
    "Why Fr. Chazal is hiding?"
    This is a legitimate question because I could not find any information. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    You said "accusing PRIESTS"

    Fact one: I didn't accuse
    Fact two: There's no video or text from Fr. Hewko regarding the situation there. Thus even If was accusing two or more Priests regarding, at least in one Priest - which is Fr. Hewko I'd be right. But as I wasn't accusing, I have no obligation to retreat because I didn't do anything wrong.


    Then I said
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    "I watched this two times, Fr. Chazal does not clear up the situation in the Seminary. He proves Ambrose is fake and they should watch out what they are doing. "


    Isn't this true? The video deals with the Seminary regarding the Ambrose.. not the other issues we were talking about

    Repeating: I didn't watch any video from Fr. Chazal about the situation as a whole in the Seminary. The Pablo thing is going for a long time it seems and only video I know of is this one regarding AMBROSE.

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    « Reply #9 on: October 14, 2015, 02:11:21 PM »
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  • Look at one comment there on the youtube comment section (two users)

    I won't post here because it's very hard on Fr. Pfeiffer but when I read it I thought: "How this could happen? A good priest would allow such situation?"

    Isn't this a valid question? I don't see any problems with that, in fact I want to know what's going on and not push anyone. I'm sorry if I did something wrong.

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    « Reply #10 on: October 14, 2015, 02:43:13 PM »
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  • Matthew, could you please unban me?
    What would you like me to prove?

    I was thinking.. would you like me to call you? I can speak english enough for you understand I'm not an agent. Would you send me a PM please?



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    « Reply #11 on: October 14, 2015, 03:56:46 PM »
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  • You have a disproportionate amount of concern for something mostly only affecting those dependent on the US Resistance. You're in S. America, there are Resistance priests and a Resistance seminary there which have nothing to do with this. So, relax!
    "I think that Catholicism, that's as sane as people can get."  - Jordan Peterson

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    « Reply #12 on: October 14, 2015, 09:18:27 PM »
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  • Quote from: MaterDominici
    You have a disproportionate amount of concern for something mostly only affecting those dependent on the US Resistance. You're in S. America, there are Resistance priests and a Resistance seminary there which have nothing to do with this. So, relax!


    You realize that if Ambrose had a better story and/or for some reason his "sermon" failed make public on youtube he could have done a greater damage?

    By greater damage I mean the whole situation could have continued for months.. years...?
    now you guys have dig up all Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko need to know about the false man, but what if you guys never came to know about the situation or if Ambrose had a better story and real pictures?

    When Ambrose said good things about John Paul II why he wasn't stopped in the same moment by Fr. Hewko (who studied the situation and did an execelent video regarding Post-Vatican II) ?

    Shouldn't I conclude that in some way there was a risk of putting a man with bad  will inside the so called MC Resistance?

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    « Reply #13 on: October 14, 2015, 09:22:22 PM »
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  • Now now, simmer down.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    « Reply #14 on: October 14, 2015, 09:31:56 PM »
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  • Quote from: Centroamerica


    Now now, simmer down.


    Instead of answering me or quoting me to show that i'm overreacting you give your impression I'm going too further. By saying "have a peace state of mind" you're implying I'm unstable or the things I'm saying are not in the reality level.

    That's a bad thing because you may want people to focus on my "over reaction" and not in the things I'm saying


    Thanks!