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Offline Ladislaus

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Website with List of Priests NOT Conditionally Ordained
« on: July 27, 2025, 08:02:52 PM »
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  • So, I walked into an SSPX chapel this morning for Sunday Mass (there are times where it's my only option), and so there's some unknown priest there who, based on what he did (or did not do) during Confession and his homily ... seemed rather suspicious.

    Since SSPX have been gaslighting anyone who questions the validity of NO Orders, I'd like to set up a website that has not only the names, but also the pictures of priests who came over from the Novus Ordo and have NOT been conditionally ordained, a set of "most wanted" posters.

    Problem is that you can walk in and get surprised.  More and more SSPX have become secretive about priest assignments (don't even post them online), with some arrogant attitude that it's none of the lay faithful's business.  So nowhere is the priest's name listed in the bulletin, and he doesn't mention his name from the pulpit ... so this is where that "most wanted" website with pictures would be nice to have.

    It would also bring visibility to SSPX shenanigans and possibly put some pressure on them.

    There might also be a comments section where people can report "sightings" of the culprits ... details about where and when, so that, for instance, the faithful who may have missed that week, or not known who the priest was ... would be aware that there could be non-consecrated bogus hosts in the tabernacle left over from the non-priest when they go to receive the following week.

    If I had the funds to do so, I would love to bring a class action lawsuit against SSPX for false advertising, and seeking damages for the faithful who may have received bogus Sacraments.  SSPX claim to provide Traditional Masses, but may in fact be providing simulations thereof.  It would involve proving in a civil suit that according to the principles of Catholic theology there's positive doubt regarding the NO Orders and that by Canon Law we are forbidden from assisting at such Masses.

    Just fed up with their cocky, arrogant gaslighting ... and I believe it's why they stopped posting priest assignments, schedules, etc. ... whether on chapel websites or on their new centralized "scheduling" app that's undoubtedly meant to control the flow of information.

    So if anyone wants to post the name of SSPX "priests" come over from NO without conditional ordination, and their current "home base" location ... please post them on this thread, and if you have pictures, that would be great ... but if not I'll try to get some, either finding them online or else making contact with someone where they might be located.

    I'll register a domain along the lines of www.sspx-fake-priests.com or www.sspx-fake-priest-tracker.com ... to put some heat on these duplicitous arrogant fools.  It might be expanded at some point to other dubious "priests" floating around out there.

    We have various lists of known valid priests, but not a succinct list of known-to-not-be-conditionally ordained, and we don't have pictures ... and to me pictures are the key.

    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Website with List of Priests NOT Conditionally Ordained
    « Reply #1 on: July 27, 2025, 08:21:38 PM »
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  • Of course, the other deplorable nonsense commited by SSPX is to have NINE priests at a single priory (as in this case here, link below) ... though one or two are possible fakes ... while there are many relatively-large chapels (some with sizable schools) that lack daily Mass and a resident priest, where the faithful hope they don't die suddenly during the week before Father flies in on his whirlwind tour for the weekend.  Or, yeah ... maybe you could call the local Novus Ordo presider / presbyter and hope for the best.

    https://dickinson.tx.sspx.org/en/religious-staff-31453

    That needs to be exposed also.  I can start listing chapels where you have several hundred in attendance on Sunday, many families, schools, many children ... deprived of the Sacraments, daily Mass, more opportunity for actual spiritual direction so, what? ... these guys can live it up with 9 of them at the priory just so none of them has to work all that hard?  I heard stories in Florida where they have lavish meals, expensive wine, cigars, etc. ... paid for by the faithful who are often struggling with large families, as many chapels languish without a permanent priest or two.  Do they not even realize that having a priest stationed at a place where there are many children might actually help foster more vocations?

    I honestly have no idea what they're doing any more and am beginning to wonder if they're not like my parents used to say of priests behind the Iron Curtain, where many became priests just so they could have a cushy life without having to work too hard, or hold down real jobs ... and walk around acting like bigshots insisting that the faithful bow their heads to them in reverence, whereas if they were let go from SSPX, they'd have to work their way up to assistant manager at a McDonald's.

    There's an almost-endemic arrogance among these new crop of priests, too ... where the faithful are not allowed to even question their sacrosanct judgment.

    One does wonder where a certain amount of anti-clericalism has come from.


    Offline St Giles

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    Re: Website with List of Priests NOT Conditionally Ordained
    « Reply #2 on: July 27, 2025, 08:54:42 PM »
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  • It may be best if people can post anonymously for something like this.
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    Re: Website with List of Priests NOT Conditionally Ordained
    « Reply #3 on: July 27, 2025, 09:09:08 PM »
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  • Lad, this is a good cause and I would be happy to contribute to the funds for the domain. Let me know in DMs. 
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    Re: Website with List of Priests NOT Conditionally Ordained
    « Reply #4 on: July 27, 2025, 09:34:26 PM »
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  • Obviously fr. Fulton would be the first that comes to mind, and then it appears that they skip adding descriptions for certain priests in the link sent by Ladislaus… isn’t fr. Fewel one of the Novus Ordo priests too? Are they skipping his description of purpose?


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    Re: Website with List of Priests NOT Conditionally Ordained
    « Reply #5 on: July 27, 2025, 09:44:03 PM »
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  • Yes, Fewel is not conditionally ordained and admits it readily. Likewise, he does not hesitate to refer people to the Novus Ordo clergy if they need Sacraments in the absence of SSPX priests.

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    Re: Website with List of Priests NOT Conditionally Ordained
    « Reply #6 on: July 27, 2025, 10:49:39 PM »
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  • That is a splendid idea.

    However, I wonder if it would not be more quickly and easily done if we were to post the list of names of priests  WHO HAVE BEEN ORDAINED BY OUR BISHOPS.

    It used to be that the Seminary newsletter ("Verbum") was publishing the pictures and small biography of the Priests and Deacons ordained in Winona every summer.

    If we could find a way to get old issues from the last 20-25 years, or any such other source (Angelus? Regina Caeli Report?), we could then have a list of the Priests we know are validly ordained. It would be a "VALID FOR SURE" list.

    Any SSPX priest NOT ON THIS LIST would automatically be suspicious. His name could be added to a separate list called: "TO BE INVESTIGATED".

    If it is proven that the suspicious priest was conditionally re-ordained, his name would be removed from the TBI list and added to the list of "VALID FOR SURE" priests, and the name of the Bishop who ordained him be added.

    If it was proven the the priest on the TBI list was NOT re-ordained, then we would add his name to a third list called: "DOUBTFUL VALIDITY".

    I think it would be easier and quicker to proceed this way.

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    Re: Website with List of Priests NOT Conditionally Ordained
    « Reply #7 on: July 28, 2025, 06:42:16 AM »
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  • David Fulton. Stationed primarily at Our Lady of Sorrows in Phoenix, Pastor at Sts. Peter and Paul in ABQ.

    Ordained in the new rite by two new rite and one old rite bishop. Principal ordaining bishop was new rite. Who knows if the other two participated.

    Never conditionally ordained.
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    Re: Website with List of Priests NOT Conditionally Ordained
    « Reply #8 on: July 28, 2025, 07:00:04 AM »
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  • David Fulton. Stationed primarily at Our Lady of Sorrows in Phoenix, Pastor at Sts. Peter and Paul in ABQ.

    Ordained in the new rite by two new rite and one old rite bishop. Principal ordaining bishop was new rite. Who knows if the other two participated.

    Never conditionally ordained.
    Considering this priest shares the tabernacle with other priests, that would imply all communions received in this chapel are suspect 

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    Re: Website with List of Priests NOT Conditionally Ordained
    « Reply #9 on: July 28, 2025, 07:48:00 AM »
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  • I will help in any way, either by donations or calling people or research.  Please let me know.  

    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Website with List of Priests NOT Conditionally Ordained
    « Reply #10 on: July 28, 2025, 08:36:25 AM »
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  • David Fulton. Stationed primarily at Our Lady of Sorrows in Phoenix, Pastor at Sts. Peter and Paul in ABQ.

    Ordained in the new rite by two new rite and one old rite bishop. Principal ordaining bishop was new rite. Who knows if the other two participated.

    Never conditionally ordained.

    By way of a farewell party announcement, the priestly departures were made known while I was still out of town. When I returned I heard that Fr. Pons was leaving, disturbing to me because I found him the most willing, available, and helpful of all our priests. As yet no changes appear in even yesterday’s bulletin masthead, 7 priests listed.

    Yesterday one confessional was occupied by “guest priest.”


    This morning I read as above that “Fr. Fulton” is in Phoenix.

    Can anyone list the replacements?




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    Re: Website with List of Priests NOT Conditionally Ordained
    « Reply #11 on: July 28, 2025, 09:58:31 AM »
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  • That is a splendid idea.

    However, I wonder if it would not be more quickly and easily done if we were to post the list of names of priests  WHO HAVE BEEN ORDAINED BY OUR BISHOPS.

    It used to be that the Seminary newsletter ("Verbum") was publishing the pictures and small biography of the Priests and Deacons ordained in Winona every summer.

    If we could find a way to get old issues from the last 20-25 years, or any such other source (Angelus? Regina Caeli Report?), we could then have a list of the Priests we know are validly ordained. It would be a "VALID FOR SURE" list.

    Any SSPX priest NOT ON THIS LIST would automatically be suspicious. His name could be added to a separate list called: "TO BE INVESTIGATED".

    If it is proven that the suspicious priest was conditionally re-ordained, his name would be removed from the TBI list and added to the list of "VALID FOR SURE" priests, and the name of the Bishop who ordained him be added.

    If it was proven the the priest on the TBI list was NOT re-ordained, then we would add his name to a third list called: "DOUBTFUL VALIDITY".

    I think it would be easier and quicker to proceed this way.

    This website lists many of the men who were ordained in the SSPX. If you can read Spanish (or use a translator), there is a lot of useful information.

    https://elintegristamejicano.blogspot.com/

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    Re: Website with List of Priests NOT Conditionally Ordained
    « Reply #12 on: July 28, 2025, 10:55:54 AM »
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  • Yes, Fewel is not conditionally ordained and admits it readily. Likewise, he does not hesitate to refer people to the Novus Ordo clergy if they need Sacraments in the absence of SSPX priests.

    A newChurch priest shows up at the seminary or priory and requests the milk of Catholic tradition, and what does the SSPX superior say?

    Bp. Fellay should feel the heat.

    This is a good refresher on the  Novus ordo bastard rite of Holy Orders, compared to Tradition.

    Comparison of Old & New Apostolic Consecrations

    It demonstrates that Bp. Fellay has broken his Apostolic vows of providing the “Full Priesthood” to Society priests.


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    Re: Website with List of Priests NOT Conditionally Ordained
    « Reply #13 on: July 28, 2025, 11:04:36 AM »
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  • This is sometimes a helpful list in checking on the status of priests and those who claim to be priests: https://catholiccandle.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/6-9-25-Catholic-Candle-List-of-priests-who-claim-to-be-priests.pdf

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    Re: Website with List of Priests NOT Conditionally Ordained
    « Reply #14 on: July 28, 2025, 11:07:21 AM »
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  • Catholic Candle has this list of priests:  https://catholiccandle.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/6-9-25-Catholic-Candle-List-of-priests-who-claim-to-be-priests.pdf