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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Website with List of Priests NOT Conditionally Ordained
« Reply #45 on: Today at 11:34:32 AM »
I will try to update the site this weekend.  I haven't been posting much lately, but I heard that a handful of ICK "priests" were brought over, and the problem continues to get worse.

Unforunately, at Father Carley's old chapel in Akron, OH (Immaculate Heart of Mary) ... a disaster brews.  In the legal "Trust" paperwork, Father Carley left the property to SSPX.  Yet, before he passed away, he had invited Father Carlos Casavantes in to "take over for him", so, basically, verbally he had different intentions that what he left on his legal papers, and it's quickly turning into a disaster.  I had warned Father about this, and had politely and respectfully resigned from his Board of Trustees rather than sign the papers, and Father wanted the entire Board to sign, precisely because I knew what the outcome would be.  Father Carley considered the Novus Ordo Holy Orders seriously doubtful at best, so I really couldn't understand his thinking about going with SSPX, and he urged him to speak with Bishop Zendejas, et al.  But, it is what it is now.

Father Casavantes was actually one of the very first ordinations that Bishop Williamson had performed, having conditionally ordained him in 1989.  I visited him during the early Summer of 1990 as a seminarian, when he was up in Vienna, OH, having at that time taken over Father Roach's old chapel (similar "Board of Trustees" problem there ... where you'd think Father Carley would have learned from that) ... and it was for that reason he had receive conditional ordination.  Hilariously, IMO, his original "ordination" was done by none other than "Saint" John Paul II the Great Wojtyla in Rome ... so to peform a conditional after ordination by the man who was pretty much the face of Novus Ordo conservatives ... :laugh1:

Re: Website with List of Priests NOT Conditionally Ordained
« Reply #46 on: Today at 02:55:00 PM »
I will try to update the site this weekend.  I haven't been posting much lately, but I heard that a handful of ICK "priests" were brought over, and the problem continues to get worse.

Unforunately, at Father Carley's old chapel in Akron, OH (Immaculate Heart of Mary) ... a disaster brews.  In the legal "Trust" paperwork, Father Carley left the property to SSPX.  Yet, before he passed away, he had invited Father Carlos Casavantes in to "take over for him", so, basically, verbally he had different intentions that what he left on his legal papers, and it's quickly turning into a disaster.  I had warned Father about this, and had politely and respectfully resigned from his Board of Trustees rather than sign the papers, and Father wanted the entire Board to sign, precisely because I knew what the outcome would be.  Father Carley considered the Novus Ordo Holy Orders seriously doubtful at best, so I really couldn't understand his thinking about going with SSPX, and he urged him to speak with Bishop Zendejas, et al.  But, it is what it is now.

Father Casavantes was actually one of the very first ordinations that Bishop Williamson had performed, having conditionally ordained him in 1989.  I visited him during the early Summer of 1990 as a seminarian, when he was up in Vienna, OH, having at that time taken over Father Roach's old chapel (similar "Board of Trustees" problem there ... where you'd think Father Carley would have learned from that) ... and it was for that reason he had receive conditional ordination.  Hilariously, IMO, his original "ordination" was done by none other than "Saint" John Paul II the Great Wojtyla in Rome ... so to peform a conditional after ordination by the man who was pretty much the face of Novus Ordo conservatives ... :laugh1:
Thanks for the update Ladislaus!