Author Topic: We have a Pflugerville (Read 4042 times)

Matthew · « **on:** March 22, 2014, 07:14:59 AM »

Update:
There is now weekly Mass from a Resistance priest, Fr. Zendejas, outside San Antonio, TX, which is about 1 hour from Austin.
http://www.StDominicsChapel.com

I think it's funny that there's a "Pflugerville" very close to Austin, TX.

Some people call Boston, KY "Pfeifferville".

Actually, out of a dozen families in Austin, TX that come to my SSPX chapel every other week (whenever the SSPX Austin chapel doesn't have Mass), ALL of them are against the Resistance, except for one couple.

It's a shame they are all so blind. Here they drive hours (plural) on Sunday so they won't have to miss Mass every other week, so they seem quite dedicated on paper, yet they can't see what's going on in the SSPX.

So there won't be a Resistance-affiliated Mass in Pflugerville anytime soon :)

rlee · « **Reply #1 on:** March 22, 2014, 07:41:10 AM »

What a coincidence, I thought that place was the next locale down the road from Menzingen.

Welcome to Pflugerville.

http://westislandgazette.com/files/2014/02/Shopping-Centre-20140118.jpg

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #2 on:** March 22, 2014, 08:43:07 AM »

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Actually, out of a dozen families in Austin, TX that come to my SSPX chapel every other week (whenever the SSPX Austin chapel doesn't have Mass), ALL of them are against the Resistance, except for one couple.

It's a shame they are all so blind. Here they drive hours (plural) on Sunday so they won't have to miss Mass every other week, so they seem quite dedicated on paper, yet they can't see what's going on in the SSPX.

This reminds me of a conversation I had recently with the parents of Stephen Heiner. They told me they have two daughters (sisters of Stephen) who live in St. Mary's Kansas, and attend the SSPX chapel there. I asked if they are on the side of Bishop Fellay or if they attend the Resistance Masses in St. Mary's. They replied that both daughters are on the side of the Society, because one of them is married to a man who is a nephew of one of the priests (she named the priest but I forgot his name) and that his family has several vocations in the Society, a brother, and priests and nuns. Therefore, there is a social bond, a kind of groupthink of common loyalty that holds +Fellay and the Capitulants as a sort of untouchable standard (not their literal words). It seems to me this is the same "blindness" that Matthew refers to, where they can't see what's going on in the SSPX.

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BlackIrish · « **Reply #3 on:** March 22, 2014, 10:54:00 AM »

shucks . . . missed opportunity, they could have put the new seminary there . . .
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Matthew · « **Reply #4 on:** March 22, 2014, 11:30:49 AM »

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Quote from: Matthew

Actually, out of a dozen families in Austin, TX that come to my SSPX chapel every other week (whenever the SSPX Austin chapel doesn't have Mass), ALL of them are against the Resistance, except for one couple.

It's a shame they are all so blind. Here they drive hours (plural) on Sunday so they won't have to miss Mass every other week, so they seem quite dedicated on paper, yet they can't see what's going on in the SSPX.

This reminds me of a conversation I had recently with the parents of Stephen Heiner. They told me they have two daughters (sisters of Stephen) who live in St. Mary's Kansas, and attend the SSPX chapel there. I asked if they are on the side of Bishop Fellay or if they attend the Resistance Masses in St. Mary's. They replied that both daughters are on the side of the Society, because one of them is married to a man who is a nephew of one of the priests (she named the priest but I forgot his name) and that his family has several vocations in the Society, a brother, and priests and nuns. Therefore, there is a social bond, a kind of groupthink of common loyalty that holds +Fellay and the Capitulants as a sort of untouchable standard (not their literal words). It seems to me this is the same "blindness" that Matthew refers to, where they can't see what's going on in the SSPX.
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Well, you know there is another relatively famous example of this: John MacF. who used to post on CI and Ignis Ardens. His son is a (newly-ordained, "Le Roux" brand) SSPX priest, so he's kind of stuck, as it were. Humanly speaking, it takes a lot of guts to start attending Resistance Masses when your son is still an SSPX priest in good standing.

It doesn't excuse it, nor does it exempt him from the future consequences of ignoring the truth -- but at least it is understandable human behavior.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #5 on:** March 22, 2014, 03:42:47 PM »

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Your avatar is too cute, BlackIrish. Never let it go!

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shucks . . . missed opportunity, they could have put the new seminary there . . .
:tinfoil:

For the new seminary to be built in Pflugerville would be a little too obvious, don't you think?

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Neil Obstat · « **Reply #6 on:** March 22, 2014, 04:04:54 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Quote from: Neil Obstat
Quote from: Matthew

Actually, out of a dozen families in Austin, TX that come to my SSPX chapel every other week (whenever the SSPX Austin chapel doesn't have Mass), ALL of them are against the Resistance, except for one couple.

It's a shame they are all so blind. Here they drive hours (plural) on Sunday so they won't have to miss Mass every other week, so they seem quite dedicated on paper, yet they can't see what's going on in the SSPX.

This reminds me of a conversation I had recently with the parents of Stephen Heiner. They told me they have two daughters (sisters of Stephen) who live in St. Mary's Kansas, and attend the SSPX chapel there. I asked if they are on the side of Bishop Fellay or if they attend the Resistance Masses in St. Mary's. They replied that both daughters are on the side of the Society, because one of them is married to a man who is a nephew of one of the priests (she named the priest but I forgot his name) and that his family has several vocations in the Society, a brother, and priests and nuns. Therefore, there is a social bond, a kind of groupthink of common loyalty that holds +Fellay and the Capitulants as a sort of untouchable standard (not their literal words). It seems to me this is the same "blindness" that Matthew refers to, where they can't see what's going on in the SSPX.
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Well, you know there is another relatively famous example of this: John MacF. who used to post on CI and Ignis Ardens. His son is a (newly-ordained, "Le Roux" brand) SSPX priest, so he's kind of stuck, as it were. Humanly speaking, it takes a lot of guts to start attending Resistance Masses when your son is still an SSPX priest in good standing.

It doesn't excuse it, nor does it exempt him from the future consequences of ignoring the truth -- but at least it is understandable human behavior.

I hesitated to mention him by name, but it seems we are past being so closed-minded now. His sisters probably are not ashamed of their blind loyalty, since it's a matter of social bonds that ties them, more than the faith. If not, then they would be happy to announce their emancipation therefrom. Who knows, they could be the rolling snowball that starts an avalanche.

Women in general are very concerned with everyone's feelings, and how they feel about family relations could easily outweigh their adherence to objective doctrine. This is why it usually takes a man to keep the family's faith on track.

But in any case, a reluctance to start attending Resistance Masses is certainly well-described as an understandable human behavior.

As for the truth ("It doesn't excuse it, nor does it exempt him from the future consequences of ignoring the truth"), maybe we shouldn't forget how Fr. Themann defines it:

"Truth is not firstly a question of words but of the ideas for which the words stand."

When you start putting down into black and white what truth is and what truth is not, you had better be really, really careful. Because there are consequences, such as the consequences of ignoring the proper definition, in favor of some new concoction, which see.

For someone to whom feelings are paramount, truth itself becomes relative, because "the ideas for which the words stand" could be "firstly a question of" how other family members feel about where we go to Mass today, for example.

NOTE: Truth itself would become relative, because, as Fr. Themann says, truth is a question.

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Frances · « **Reply #7 on:** March 22, 2014, 06:45:54 PM »

:dancing-banana:Anyone been to Williamson, West Virginia? H. E. would hate it.

BlackIrish · « **Reply #8 on:** March 23, 2014, 12:30:01 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

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Your avatar is too cute, BlackIrish. Never let it go!

Quote from: BlackIrish
shucks . . . missed opportunity, they could have put the new seminary there . . .
:tinfoil:

For the new seminary to be built in Pflugerville would be a little too obvious, don't you think?

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Thanks, keeping the avatar . . . almost too obvious; but, that would be the fun of it for them.

What about a Blooper Museum in Pflugerville? :pop:

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #9 on:** March 24, 2014, 03:08:38 PM »

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okay -- sounds good!

PFLUGERVILLE BLOOPER MUSEUM

Fr. Raymond Taouk, in his Brisbane, Australia sermon, said that the people in the Resistance are going to go to hell for their resistance to the Menzingen errors. "[They need] to repent of their ways which are going to lead them and those who follow them to hell. [uhhhh... no, they don't] It's a very serious thing. [uhhhh... correct, for once] They're going to end up in hell for this unjustified rebellion against superiors." [uhhhh... no, they aren't] A recording of this sermon is currently online. Another Internet rumour? Well, nobody is going to say one way or another. The Menzingen-denizens never identify any alleged Internet rumors -- they're just, well,,,,,,,,, Internet rumours, I guess. HAHAHAHAHAHA

Bishop Fellay, in his DICI interview of November 20th, 2013, said, "...I used the word 'modernist'; I think that it was not understood by everybody. Perhaps I should have said a modernist in his actions. Once again, he is not a modernist in the absolute, theoretical sense." [uhhhh... yes, he is]

South America District Superior Fr. Christian Bouchacourt was interviewed by Clarin, Argentina's largest daily newspaper: "The Jєωιѕн people did not commit deicide." [uhhhh... yes, they did] This came after a group of local Catholics interrupted an ecuмenical Kristallnacht Jєωιѕн memorial service in the Buenos Aires Cathedral. The interruption was one from which Fr. Bouchacourt was attempting to distance the SSPX in his district.

Fr. Yves Le Roux apparently thinks the Resistance is doing the work of the devil. "Some people, fooled by suspicions repeated and amplified by the Internet, have been taken up by the irrational fear of an alleged treason, non-existent and never proven. Regardless of the [sic] personal good will, such people sadly do the work of the devil." [uhhhh... no, they don't] (From Winona Letter to Friends and Benefactors, December 2013.)

Bishop Fellay in Burghclere, June 2nd, 2013, said, "What is spread in the Internet since some months [sic] is a total misrepresentation from my position. Take The Recusant, and all these things [like CathInfo?] They are totally out! [Like a foul serve at Wimbledon?] They are nothing to do with the reality! ... I probably was not clear enough. I would never write the letter which I wrote to the Pope in April 2012 [+F's AFD] the way I did ... It's clear that it was a mishap." [uhhhh... oh, never mind]
Note: the AFD is still an official docuмent in the SSPX archives, just like the 6 Conditions of the 2012 General Chapter are. Neither of these abominable blights on the history of the Society have been rescinded, even if some may say that they have been.

Fr. Pfluger, First Assistant to +F, preaching to SSPX brothers at Flavigny (France), Dec. 2013: "The pseudo-resistance: all these priests are very unbalanced people. ... Alll these departures are a purification for the Society and must be seen as a blessing." [uhhhh... no, they don't]

&c., &c., &c.

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Neil Obstat · « **Reply #10 on:** March 24, 2014, 03:13:32 PM »

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Dear Matthew,

It appears that thanks to your nice "We have a Pflugerville" thread, this Pflugerville now has a Pflugerville Blooper Museum. That is, We Now Have a Pflugerville Blooper Museum in the "We have a Pflugerville" thread.

Like so many other things in Pflugerville, Pflugerville is perhaps unaware of the existence of its own museum. Nor would it be likely that anyone can inform Pflugerville about said existence of said Blooper Museum.

The reason for this is simple. No one is more blind than the man who will not see.

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BlackIrish · « **Reply #11 on:** March 24, 2014, 03:18:21 PM »

Nice work!

There is a mention of the woes of the Internet a few times . . . hmmm, wonder if that is the real reason behind the very recent tackling of the impurity found on the Internet; thus, leading to the discouragement of the use of the Internet . . . is the Resistance info getting a bit too hot for the SSPX crew to handle as opposed to the passions of their SSPX parishioners, which really shouldn't be a new problem . . .

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #12 on:** March 24, 2014, 03:33:58 PM »

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Duuuuuh. Why didn't I think of that?

Or, How Come You Get to Come Up With All the Good Ideas? HAHAHAHAHA

But seriously,

I think you're on to something. If it were really impurity, such as sins against the 6th and 9th Commandments* that they were so hot and bothered about, they could have been harping on that bandwagon 20 years ago.

But,,,,,,,,,,,, N-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O! ( As Steve Martin would have said.)

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*Please note: The 6th Commandment is Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery, and the 9th Commandment is Thou Shalt Not Covet Thy Neighbors Wife. But in all the traditional catechisms that speak about "Sins against the 6th and 9th Commandments," when read by protestants, they don't understand it at all, because they're taught that the second Commandment is Thou Shalt Not Make Graven Images, and then all the rest move down one, and the tenth Commandment combines the 9th and the 10th, so it says Thou Shalt Not Covet Thy Neighbor's Wife, His Ox, His Hayfield, His Buggywhip, His Barnyard, such that his wife becomes just another possession like his chickens and stuff, and somehow that's okay with the Feminists. Go Figure. So to them, the sixth and ninth Commandments are Thou Shalt Not Steal and Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness Against Thy Neighbor, which protestants scratch their heads over, and say, "What does that have to do with 'sins of the flesh'?"

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BlackIrish · « **Reply #13 on:** March 24, 2014, 03:37:30 PM »

women's intuition :dancing:

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #14 on:** March 24, 2014, 03:48:36 PM »

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The Pflugerville Blooper Museum is a fun place to visit. You can stroll from one exhibit to the next, perhaps playing Modest Mussorgsky's "Promenade" from "Pictures at an Exhbition" as you stroll.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/Nyc-8OdUuBQ[/youtube]

We were talking about MODESTY so I thought 'Modest' Mussorgsky was appropriate. :rolleyes:

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