There! I gave you your thumb back. Not that you need it. You have 233 more
plus votes than you do posts!
And so what happened to Bishop Williamson was simply the arbitrary whim of Bishop Fellay.
That's all it is. The rest that the SSPX party line can say, is just a smoke screen.
It all comes down to TELEOLOGY.
What is the purpose of the thing? Why does it exist?
What is
the purpose --- of the Society of SPX?
What is
the purpose --- of the Faith - of being Catholic?
What is
the purpose --- of running a religious order - of penalties - of sanctions,
punishments, rewards?
What you describe below, bowler, presumes a right-ordered teleology.
I say, that
the Menzingen-denizens have an INVERTED teleology, that is, their
purpose is not to build up Christianity, but rather to build up a cooperative
between the scattered remnants of Catholics and the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr, IOW,
the destruction of the Social Reign of Christ the King.
And it boils down to them not understanding what the Social Reign of Christ the
King is all about. This is why I say, that I will not be surprised at all if Fellay
changes the Society's Feast of Christ the King to the new date - of the last
Sunday before Advent, and he could do that this year. This would be entirely
acceptable to the Accordistas, because they basically worship him and anything
he says goes, as if he were a kind of Pope. And to top it off, the upcoming
papal conclave might not result in a pope right away. They might say that all
the Cardinals will go home and think about it for a while, which could turn into
thinking about it ALL SUMMER, and then by October, the SSPX will be so very
much jaded from being sedevacantist that +Fellay will be able to start doing
things that normally a Pope would do, like move a liturgical Feast Day from
the LAST SUNDAY IN OCTOBER to the LAST SUNDAY BEFORE ADVENT.
AND, he could get rid of Matthew xxiv once and for all, because the Accordistas
don't like Matthew xxiv anyway. Good Riddance!
Whether they know it or not, the Menzingen-denizens have bought into the Big
Lie that the post-Conciliar Church is the Catholic Church, even if it needs a
little "adjustment" -- They have SWALLOWED THE BAIT, HOOK LINE AND SINKER.
And they refuse to believe they are in the wrong for having done so!
Very un-Christ like. Bishop Fellay has taught us nothing there but worldly revenge. Any man of the world does the same thing every day.
The mistakes that God allows us to make are only disastrous to us if we do not learn from them. Learning from other peoples mistakes of course is far better.
My experience in life has proven to me that the vast majority of persons do not learn from their mistakes, and that is most unfortunate.
Now, the mistakes made by the superiors of the SSPX during the last year, offers to us an opportunity to learn from other persons mistakes. We know what they have done and said, so I will not dwell on the details, but will only offer here what should have been done. What would have been done by a saintly leader and his assistants, the district superiors and the pastors of each chapel? The answer is something supernatural that would have edified the faithful. Something totally out of this world, something one does not ever see in the world today, something that Our Lord would have done.
I agree, bowler.
A saintly hierarchy would not have done anything to any of the so-called resistance priests, and if any priest would have resigned, they would have bent over backward to bring them back, like our Lord would have done.
A leader graced by the supernatural like a St. Peter, knew that you have to win the respect of great men. The greatest generals (St. Paul) are the ones that the other side will call "recalcitrant", it is precisely those men that a great leader (St. Peter) must rally to the cause.
The great leader (St. Peter) does not feel threatened by any of his great generals, the great leader does not care about himself or his self-esteem, he KNOWS who he is.
The great leader has only one goal and that is to accomplish his objective, and he knows that the most efficient and best way to do that is to surround himself with great men, the men that lessor leaders can't handle, the stallions, the champions (like St. Paul and the apostles).
Once again, bowler, I agree.
The SSPX hierarchy on the other hand is the complete opposite of what I just described.
The leader has no self-esteem, and thus he purposely surrounded himself with men that he perceives are no threat to his authority.
Unfortunately you can't fight a battle with people like that. In effect, he has fired St. Paul, the 11 apostles, and anyone else (even parishioners) that might be perceived a challenge. He is left with no one with a fight.
I do not expect anything from the SSPX, the leadership is not there.
It would make sense to criticize the Menzingen-denizens if their
objective is to
fight a battle in defense of the Faith.
But I don't think it is!
They are not about a fight for the Faith of Catholics.
The Menzingen-denizens are WIMPS.
-- qualifier -- They might not think of themselves as wimps, because they think
that the thing they are devoted toward is a good thing: peace with the Modernists
in Rome, at any price! So to them, this 'attitude of war' against the Resistance is
a good thing. I have some friends who think this way. I've been tearing my hair
out trying to get to the bottom of this, and they are absolutely DUG IN to their
position - they think +Williamson is yesterday's news and +Fellay is 'WHERE IT'S
AT.' These are nice people, who held on to the Catholic Faith in the wake of Vat.II,
for all these years. But +Fellay to them is some kind of demigod. It is, as Tele
has been so admirably consistent in pointing out (thank you Tele!) that this is a
CULT of +Fellay. They are DILUSIONAL by thinking that the Catholic Faith is all
about UNITY as a fundamental principle, and the the FAITH is some kind of
decoration, like the star on the top of the Christmas tree. Fr. Hewko's little teepee
like this / is a perfect diagram of this. You write Faith on top and UNITY below:
FAITH
. /
UNITY
The point is, UNITY is the foundational principle, and FAITH is the thing that gets
supported by the unity. This is wrong. The FAITH of Catholics is the thing that
should be our foundation and our consequent UNITY is a product, a fruit of that
oneness of Faith. So this new idea of unity being the principal objective is EVIL.
And that is what came out of the General Chapter in July: so-called unity. But it
is a lie, because there was no unity in truth, only appearances, thanks mostly to
the silence of +de Mallerais and also of some of the other priests there. You can
blame +de Galarreta too, if you like but he's kind of a mixed bag recently; who
knows what's going on in his head?
All the Menzingen-denizens want to 'fight' for is to rip off someone's real estate,
and to make friends with the Jєωs. And the Jєωs are just fine with that, because
that's what they like to do, too! It's like one big, happy family!
We're looking at the Judaization of the Society, basically.
Which goes a long way to understand why they don't want +W around.
Like Fr. Pfeiffer says so well, there is something really wicked about this papal
abdication. It is not like all the previous ones, the most recent of which was only
600 years ago.
This papal resignation has an evil aspect. It is aimed at changing the papacy...
That's as far as he goes with it.
I'm going one step further.
Maybe I'm full of it.
But I don't think that a new pope will be elected right away.
I think the TELEOLOGY of the papacy is up for change - what is the purpose of the
Pope? Why not make him just a figurehead, like the King and Queen of England is?
I think they're going to say, "Let's go home and think about it for a while."
Besides, the Secretary of State was acting as the Pope in many ways. The
Holy Father stayed in another room while the Secretary of State handled the
business. Now the abdicated Pope will be in
another office - just one or two
more doors down the hallway! And the Freemasons will have all the more
power and freedom to operate as they please!