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Re: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2019, 10:23:46 PM »
The devil loves blasphemy.

Re: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group
« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2019, 02:55:15 PM »
No. Please stop, Cera. We’ve all had enough of this.

Why are you so fixated on discrediting TFP/TIA?
Those of us who love Truth also love the truth. Facts are presented regarding an anti-Catholic heretical sect which purports to be Catholic. Instead of rational arguments against the facts, TFP/TIA cult members instead:
1. cut-and-paste from their TIA guru,
2. name-call,
3. demand that the facts not be posted.
I continue to pray for all of those who have become deluded by this "anti-Catholic, anti-clerical heretical sect" as Bishop Mayer called the Plinio- worshiping TFP.


Re: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group
« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2019, 02:58:22 PM »
repeat

Re: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group
« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2019, 03:09:36 PM »



Dr. Orlando Fedeli, a secondary school teacher and professor at the Pontifical University of Sâo Paulo, had been a TFPista and follower of Plínio Corrêa de Oliveira for decades before leaving and turning himself into a fierce critic of Plínio and his TFP. Inter alia, he wrote a book titled No País das Maravilhas: a Gnose Burlesca da TFP e dos Arautos do Evangelho (In Wonderland: The Burlesque Gnosis of the TFP and the Herolds of the Gospel). The Arautos of João Scognamiglio Clá Dias are one of two main TFP successor organisations in Brazil. Fedeli denounced an inner TFP circle, a blasphemous cult in which our Lord and our Lady were replaced by Plínio and his mother Lucilia.

Fedeli founded his own organisation, the Associação Cultural Montfort, which split into two a few years after his death in 2010. Docile followers turning into headstrong competitors.

Different from Orlando Fedeli, the italian Roberto de Mattei penned an awe-inspiring hagiography of Plínio Corrêa.

Some years ago, an audio of a conference of João Scognamiglio Clá Dias could be found on gloria.tv, youtube etc. in which Clá Dias taught his followers a mockery and blasphemy. He praised a disfigured version of the words of St. Paul

 "It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me" (Gal 2:20)

where the word Christ was replaced by the name Plínio, as the state of mind to strive for. The audio showed that the allegations of Fedeli had not been an invention.

The audio as well as the whole affair was nauseating.
Thank you for the detailed background on this. The blasphemous "prayer" to Plinio has been posted here previously and the response from the Plinio- worshipers here on Cath Info has been limited to personal attacks and demands that the facts no longer be posted

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Re: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group
« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2019, 05:46:24 PM »
Dr. Orlando Fedeli, a secondary school teacher and professor at the Pontifical University of Sâo Paulo, had been a TFPista and follower of Plínio Corrêa de Oliveira for decades before leaving and turning himself into a fierce critic of Plínio and his TFP. Inter alia, he wrote a book titled No País das Maravilhas: a Gnose Burlesca da TFP e dos Arautos do Evangelho (In Wonderland: The Burlesque Gnosis of the TFP and the Herolds of the Gospel). The Arautos of João Scognamiglio Clá Dias are one of two main TFP successor organisations in Brazil. Fedeli denounced an inner TFP circle, a blasphemous cult in which our Lord and our Lady were replaced by Plínio and his mother Lucilia.

Quote from above:
"Fedeli denounced an inner TFP circle, a blasphemous cult in which our Lord and our Lady were replaced by Plinio and his mother Lucilia."

My question is, why have those who support Plinio/TFP on this forum not tried to refute these allegations? All they have done is to refer to a refutation by Guimaraes, but that doesn't cut it. It is a serious accusation, and it needs to be addressed in a forthright manner.

Did Plinio indeed put himself in place of our Lord, and his mother Lucilia in place of our Lady? Because if he did, then there was a very serious problem with Plinio de Oliviera.

Also, it seems that there may have been a (secret?) inner circle, which is mentioned in the above quote. Is it possible that most of the followers of Plinio/TFP were not aware of an inner circle?