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Offline tdrev123

Re: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2019, 06:24:44 PM »
So the Bishop said TFP mistrusts the clergy....

Matthew aren't you a resistance supporter?  The whole point of resistance is mistrusting the clergy!  

All that letter is was a conciliar bishop who didn't like the fact the TFP thinks there are smarter then the Conciliar church...Um Hello that is what traditional Catholicism is you ignoramus's. 
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Offline Matthew

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Re: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2019, 06:36:14 PM »
Quote from: tdrev123 on June 25, 2019, 06:24:44 PM
So the Bishop said TFP mistrusts the clergy....

Matthew aren't you a resistance supporter?  The whole point of resistance is mistrusting the clergy!  

All that letter is was a conciliar bishop who didn't like the fact the TFP thinks there are smarter then the Conciliar church...Um Hello that is what traditional Catholicism is you ignoramus's.
Bp. de Castro Mayer wasn't a "conciliar bishop", you ignoramus.
He rejected Vatican II all the way.
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Offline Matthew

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Re: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2019, 06:40:01 PM »
Incredulous, is that the best you can do to rebut that "cut & paste"?

The content "cut/pasted" by Cera, above, is completely and utterly damning of Plinio, the TFP, etc.!

After reading that, I understand why the Traditional priest contacted me about the TFP threads on CathInfo. I had already heard bad things about the TFP, so I was inclined to post some warnings anyhow.

Why don't you at least ATTEMPT to critique the content, rather than blatantly, transparently attacking the messenger for cut/pasting and sharing this important information (once again) with the readers of CathInfo.
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Offline Croixalist

Re: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2019, 07:23:40 PM »
The "Trad-Granny" thing is a bit much Incred. Stick to the argument, there's plenty to be had.

More than Mr. Armour's or Mr. Ablas' detailed testimony, we have Atila attempting to excuse the TFP practice of referring to themselves as "slaves" to Plinio. I don't care if it's in addition to being slaves to Our Lady, St. Montfort did not proscribe any such spiritual obedience to a layman, nor can I imagine a scenario where such a practice would be appropriate. This to me was a major indication that the aforementioned testimonies had at least a kernel of truth to them. It would be helpful if more people came forward about this. We only have insider info from two sources in two different parts of the world and those sources were unknown to begin with and completely disappeared from the traditional scene after they spoke up.

Whether Atila and TIA know it or not, they are the ones providing the strongest evidence for the disordered foundation of the TFP. By turning their axe to the roots of the SSPX, they reveal the tree rot of their own group and their sole claim to orthodoxy from the onset of the VII era. 
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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2019, 06:50:33 AM »
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In case you don’t know TIA is a branch of Tradition Family and Property founded by Plinio Correa de Oliveira in Brazil.

Bp de Castro Mayer, after supporting them, in 1983 publicly dissociated from this organization and condemned them, as they became a real sect evolving into a cult of their founder and esoteric practices.

I knew them very well in South America. They're dangerous!
This says nothing, it is just one priest's warning, why should anyone listen to an anonymous priest who says just that "they are dangerous"? How exactly are they dangerous? No organization today is without a dangerous feature and one has to be aware of it, but to dismiss the TIA website with all of its pure Catholic teachings because a priest says Plinio was dangerous, is pure foolishness.

It is akin to I totally dismissing the SSPX and all of the sede groups because they teach that Mohamedans, Jews, Hindus.... people in any false religion can be saved by their belief in a God that rewards, in fact, it is worse to dismiss the TIA website, for they do not teach, push any such teachings. (P.S.- I've been going to SSPX chapels for over 20 years and I would go to a sede chapel if there was one close by, as long as I was certain about the validity of the priest)
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