Author Topic: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group (Read 34472 times)

Cera · « **Reply #90 on:** July 16, 2019, 03:04:26 PM »

Quote from: Croixalist on July 13, 2019, 11:47:25 PM

One more thing that bugs me about Atila's inside sources regarding the recent Quito affair is that I can't imagine anyone offering the sort of information he claims to have received unless his contact was an actual nun (or nuns) within the convent itself. If true, this would in theory be a major departure for what Mother Mariana envisioned for the sisters, as would be having a group of laymen enter the convent in order to carry the statue in the first place. It may also indicate a real "La Capitana" with a mouth to his ear. If that sounds extreme, Atila's actions warrant the speculation.

You raise good points and mention one possibility regarding Atila's purported source of information --

"I can't imagine anyone offering the sort of information he claims to have received unless his contact was an actual nun (or nuns) within the convent itself."

Other possibilities are:

Atila or his proxy bugged the convent.

Atila made an elaborate "mental reservation" and manufactured his source in the service of what he personally believes to be a greater good.

Cera · « **Reply #91 on:** July 16, 2019, 03:12:05 PM »

Quote from: Struthio on July 14, 2019, 08:40:24 PM

Átila Sinke Guimarães wants to make people believe in a ludicrous tale of an apparition of Our Lady in Quito elevating Plínio Corrêa de Oliveira to semi-god status.

I want to remind readers that Plínio Corrêa de Oliveira has been worshipped before by TFP and Arautos do Evangelho.

I am unable to find any information on Arautos do Evangelho which is in English. Can you point me in that direction?
Other wise I will have to use Google Translate and have a friend check the translation.
Thank you

Cera · « **Reply #92 on:** July 16, 2019, 03:18:03 PM »

Quote from: Struthio on July 14, 2019, 08:47:40 PM

Simple explanation: After the death of Plínio, the TFP split into two parts fighting each other. They even went to court.

Guimarães and Horvat later split from one of the two.

But all venerate or worship Plínio.

Yes, and more specifically TFP got the name but no money.

Heralds of the Gospel got the money but not the name.

Slave of Plinio, Slave # 11 aka Atila was left with neither the money nor the TFP name. Also in 1996, the expose of TFP as a cult by Rimini was published and that was when Atila decided to go to Montebello, California.

http://www.kelebekler.com/cesnur/storia/gb11.htm

Cera · « **Reply #93 on:** July 16, 2019, 03:25:13 PM »

Quote from: Alan on July 15, 2019, 12:23:18 AM

That's exactly the outcome that the devil wants !

"Divide and Conquer" is his favourite tactic.
He wants to see divisions among Catholics, he love to see Catholics fighting Catholics, and Catholic organisations splitting.

Yes, and that is why the enemy is behind the "heretical sect," as Bishop Mayer called TFP . They are the "controlled opposition."

Much like the way the Dems/ Media ignore Hilary's collusion with Russia to buy phony dirt on Trump and her collusion with Russia to illegally sell 20% of our weapon-ready plutonium to Russia -- and INSTEAD falsely accuse Trump ---

So we see the actual controlled opposition TFP/TIA lie and INSTEAD falsely accuse SSPX of being the controlled opposition.

Cera · « **Reply #94 on:** July 16, 2019, 03:45:40 PM »

Quote from: Struthio on July 16, 2019, 01:39:31 PM

Átila thinks that God is "more present" in Plínio Corrêa de Oliveira than in the sacred burning bush.

That's the way, Átila presents himself and his Plínio.

Great point Struthio. Illegitimi non carborundum. Those who belong to the heretical sect/ cult of personality in question are taught that good Catholics who are not members of their heretical cult are to be despised as "white heretics."

When they attack (or defend those who attack) Blessed Cardinal Newman, Archbishop Lefebvre, Bishop Travez, many good Traditional Catholic priests or those of us who speak the Truth, they actually believe themselves to be doing "good" in attacking others.

They are capable only of obfuscation, name-calling, and cut-and-pasting articles by their cult leader. They are emotion-based and not capable of articulating a cogent argument against the facts which have been presented here.

Those of us who love the Truth can pray for them -- that they will leave the heretical cult and come back to the Catholic Faith.

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