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Re: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2019, 06:24:09 PM »
No. Please stop, Cera. We’ve all had enough of this. 

Why are you so fixated on discrediting TFP/TIA?

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Re: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group
« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2019, 06:42:37 PM »
No. Please stop, Cera. We’ve all had enough of this.

Why are you so fixated on discrediting TFP/TIA?

She refuses to fess up about why she has a personal grudge against them.  Maybe she dated a TFP guy and got dumped.  Who knows?


Re: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group
« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2019, 08:28:57 PM »
I don't think TFP and TIA are heretical;  compared to many bishops today, they are super orthodox.

Re: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group
« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2019, 09:39:33 PM »
Warning from a Traditional Catholic priest familiar with the group:

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In case you don’t know TIA is a branch of Tradition Family and Property founded by Plinio Correa de Oliveira in Brazil.

Bp de Castro Mayer, after supporting them, in 1983 publicly dissociated from this organization and condemned them, as they became a real sect evolving into a cult of their founder and esoteric practices.

I knew them very well in South America. They're dangerous!


Dr. Orlando Fedeli, a secondary school teacher and professor at the Pontifical University of Sâo Paulo, had been a TFPista and follower of Plínio Corrêa de Oliveira for decades before leaving and turning himself into a fierce critic of Plínio and his TFP. Inter alia, he wrote a book titled No País das Maravilhas: a Gnose Burlesca da TFP e dos Arautos do Evangelho (In Wonderland: The Burlesque Gnosis of the TFP and the Herolds of the Gospel). The Arautos of João Scognamiglio Clá Dias are one of two main TFP successor organisations in Brazil. Fedeli denounced an inner TFP circle, a blasphemous cult in which our Lord and our Lady were replaced by Plínio and his mother Lucilia.

Fedeli founded his own organisation, the Associação Cultural Montfort, which split into two a few years after his death in 2010. Docile followers turning into headstrong competitors.

Different from Orlando Fedeli, the italian Roberto de Mattei penned an awe-inspiring hagiography of Plínio Corrêa.

Some years ago, an audio of a conference of João Scognamiglio Clá Dias could be found on gloria.tv, youtube etc. in which Clá Dias taught his followers a mockery and blasphemy. He praised a disfigured version of the words of St. Paul

 "It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me" (Gal 2:20)

where the word Christ was replaced by the name Plínio, as the state of mind to strive for. The audio showed that the allegations of Fedeli had not been an invention.

The audio as well as the whole affair was nauseating.


Re: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group
« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2019, 10:19:53 PM »
The devil loves the "Divide and Conquer" tactic.

He loves seeing Catholics fighting against each other and seeing Catholics leaving traditionalist Catholic organisations.
Some people are leaving those organisations due to imperfections there as if they could only serve "perfect" organisations, "imperfect" ones are not worthy of their services. In other words, they will only serve saints.