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Offline LaramieHirsch

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Voris coming out with anti-SSPX series
« on: September 15, 2015, 02:42:28 AM »
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  • I stated this over at my place tonight:

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    I'm sure that my confusion will only frustrate my Society ally friends.  But this is a weighty matter, and I will hear what everyone has to say about it.  I am no theologian, nor any kind of authority on this matter, and I will not pretend to be.  I've always been just a regular guy.  CMTV had BETTER put forth something substantial.  And the SSPX had BETTER respond in kind.  This is a battle that needs to happen--a subject that MUST be tested and proved.  For my family's sake.


    I can't believe the timing of this thing.  It's, like, months late.  For crying out loud, I've already resolved to take us to a chapel next Sunday.

    Here's the Voris link:


    I am no longer able to attend diocesan TLM, and the current NO Mass we're trapped with is odious and disdainful.  

    As we walked into the church, a woman with a high skirt and a "fish net" shirt revealing her bra underneath entered through the doors in front of us.  During the Gloria, the tune was that of the My Little Pony theme song.  Only the African priest and the music director was singing the Gloria, and even then, the music director was only halfway singing it.  I looked out during the singing of the Gloria, and all 200 parishioners were just standing there bearing it, waiting for it to end, and no one participating in the feely-good Gloria song.  They had 2nd and 3rd grade children stuttering through the readings as they stood on a stepstool behind the lectern.  No one stayed after the Mass to pray, and yet everyone went up for some juice and crackers except us (since we're still in a state of mortal sin and going to Hell, presently; no thanks to the shriveled emphasis on confession).

    I want to get off of this night shift once and for all.  I cannot, our finances will not allow it.  If my children continue to grow up in this kind of a "screw it" atmosphere, they'll abandon the Church when they're adults, and they won't give a damn about anything.  



    PS: They sing "My Little Pony" for the Gloria at the NO Mass we went to yesterday.

    http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/audio/14/08/26/23-51-24_0.mp3




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    Voris coming out with anti-SSPX series
    « Reply #1 on: September 15, 2015, 04:10:38 AM »
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  • Again, if it were up to him in the late 60s/early 70s, there would be no traditional Catholic faith. He is a compromiser and would have gone along with the NO like all the compromisers.

    He should be thanking the SSPX for preserving the true faith so he could slander them.....for preserving the true faith.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


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    Voris coming out with anti-SSPX series
    « Reply #2 on: September 15, 2015, 04:17:40 AM »
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  • Laramie, for the love of all thing good and holy, ignore Voris! I guarantee you his role is to play bad cop with SSPX, with select bishops and occasionally the Pope playing good cop. Just go, you can hardly do worse than the NO mass!
    Fortuna finem habet.

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    « Reply #3 on: September 15, 2015, 04:21:18 AM »
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  • Isn't Voris and ChurchMilitant connected with Terry Carroll?
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    « Reply #4 on: September 15, 2015, 04:23:45 AM »
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  • All he is is a bad rerun. He spews the EXACT same crap the enemies of the Church did in the late 60s, which is what made generations of compromisers out of otherwise faithful Catholics.

    Best not to listen to this idiot.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


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    « Reply #5 on: September 15, 2015, 04:27:40 AM »
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  • I find his comments interesting after Francis' latest comments/moves with the SSPX priests.  Indirectly isn't Voris criticizing and contradicting his pope?
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    « Reply #6 on: September 15, 2015, 04:33:31 AM »
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    I find his comments interesting after Francis' latest comments/moves with the SSPX priests.  Indirectly isn't Voris criticizing and contradicting his pope?


    He sure is, but that must not matter as long as he slanders SSPX, that's all that really matters.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    « Reply #7 on: September 15, 2015, 06:49:30 AM »
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    Again, if it were up to him in the late 60s/early 70s, there would be no traditional Catholic faith. He is a compromiser and would have gone along with the NO like all the compromisers.


    Actually, he already did go along with the Novus Ordo and all the compromises with the Catholic faith.

    A friend once told me that his Traditional Mass Apostolate (FSSP) invited him to give a Lenten talk several years ago.  Mr. Voris would not even attend the traditional Mass offered at the parish.  Instead, he attended the parish's Novus Ordo (it was a parish that had both rites offered) before speaking to the TLMA conference.  He has since become an aficionado of the traditional Mass, but his affection for tradition extends only to the smells and bells of tradition.

    By the way, I think Mr. Voris is actually setting himself up to claim credit when Bishop Fellay signs the formal agreement with the Conciliar sect during the "Year of Mercy".  His internet show will demonstrate how his exposé exposed the schism to the faithful who clamored for reconciliation and Bishop Fellay heard those cries and finally, after seeing the light shined by Mr. Voris, "returned" to the "church".  After the reconciliation, Mr. Voris will heap praise upon Bishop Fellay and the neo-SSPX while he will become the SSPX's favorite English-speaking apologist.  Then, together, they will set out to condemn and crush all "resistance".


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    Voris coming out with anti-SSPX series
    « Reply #8 on: September 15, 2015, 08:26:43 AM »
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  • This guy Voris is not to be taken seriously.  Avoid all his programs like
    the plaque.
    I do not like anyone that takes one position than suddenly reverses.
    He is not credible.

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    « Reply #9 on: September 15, 2015, 08:33:46 AM »
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  • Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
    This guy Voris is not to be taken seriously.  Avoid all his programs like
    the plaque.


    Yes, make sure you brush regularly.

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    « Reply #10 on: September 15, 2015, 08:35:15 AM »
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  • Voris is actually correct ...
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    if one assumes that Francis is an undoubtedly-legitimate pope.


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    « Reply #11 on: September 15, 2015, 08:41:41 AM »
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  • Here's the next one:



    He finally lost the pink tie here.

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    « Reply #12 on: September 15, 2015, 08:58:40 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ladislaus
    Here's the next one:



    He finally lost the pink tie here.



    I can't believe it.  He has lost his mind...
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    « Reply #13 on: September 15, 2015, 09:03:27 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ladislaus
    Voris is actually correct ...
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    if one assumes that Francis is an undoubtedly-legitimate pope.


    As per the actual topic at hand, you can't talk about an SSPX "schism" without including three Popes. Doubtful or not.

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    By the way, I think Mr. Voris is actually setting himself up to claim credit when Bishop Fellay signs the formal agreement with the Conciliar sect during the "Year of Mercy".  His internet show will demonstrate how his exposé exposed the schism to the faithful who clamored for reconciliation and Bishop Fellay heard those cries and finally, after seeing the light shined by Mr. Voris, "returned" to the "church".  After the reconciliation, Mr. Voris will heap praise upon Bishop Fellay and the neo-SSPX while he will become the SSPX's favorite English-speaking apologist.  Then, together, they will set out to condemn and crush all "resistance".


    Yeah, he's definitely got some insider ties (not just the pink ones).
    Fortuna finem habet.

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    « Reply #14 on: September 15, 2015, 09:03:51 AM »
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    Here's the next one:



    He finally lost the pink tie here.



    I can't believe it.  He has lost his mind...


    This ^^^
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse