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Re: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry
« Reply #45 on: June 18, 2022, 06:16:05 PM »
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  • To Miser Peccator:

    You are doing a magnificent job of stating the obvious. 

    But your argument fails because it states the obvious. 

    Anything goes in this sick world, except that one should state the obvious.

    I think I am in the minority, but I do enjoy your posts on this thread. 

    Pax et bonum!







    Offline Miser Peccator

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    Re: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry
    « Reply #46 on: June 18, 2022, 06:29:46 PM »
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  • All this is predicated on your as-yet-undemonstrated claim that +Vigano supports Trump unequivocally.  So far the closest thing I saw was an APPEAL to Trump to do the right thing against the enemies of all that is good.  He called out the good things he did, and he did "dare hope" that he was on the side of good.

    Demonstrate where +Vigano supports Donald Trump.  Thus far you just (as Sean put it well) get triggered every time you see him write something that doesn't condemn Trump (even if what he writes mentions no one in US politics).  I'm guessing that you just have some animosity toward +Vigano for his one carefully-worded letter to Trump and do literally get triggered every time you see something written by him.

    You've had a compulsive obsession about the jab and have been posting about nothing else for probably a year now.  Time to move on.

    Excusing Trump from being a foundational part of the Great Reset is supporting him.

    Lying and saying that the pandemic farce would have never taken place under Trump is supporting him.

    Praising him for his good actions and never acknowledging his genocidal actions is supporting him.

    He does write about US politics blaming everything on Biden as if the pandemic farce and genocide began with him when it didn't.

    Providing facts and evidence is not "getting triggered".

    Animosity?  I'm not a fan of presidents who murder their own people or those who make excuses for them.

    There is a genocide going on.  That is important to discuss.

    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry
    « Reply #47 on: June 18, 2022, 06:38:40 PM »
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  • Excusing Trump from being a foundational part of the Great Reset is supporting him.

    So you're exposed as making up garbage and slandering +Vigano.

    And do you have proof that Trump is in fact a "foundational part of the Great Reset"?  While it's possible, there's no proof for that.  Trump could just be a childish egotistical buffoon that was manipulated by people one way or another.  Prove otherwise.  And demonstrate where +Vigano excused Trump.

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    Re: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry
    « Reply #48 on: June 18, 2022, 06:45:34 PM »
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  • So you're exposed as making up garbage and slandering +Vigano.

    And do you have proof that Trump is in fact a "foundational part of the Great Reset"?  While it's possible, there's no proof for that.  Trump could just be a childish egotistical buffoon that was manipulated by people one way or another.  Prove otherwise.  And demonstrate where +Vigano excused Trump.
    Lol...

    Operation Warpspeed.  Pandemic Farce.  The buck stops with him.

    At this point this is a foolish and ignorant debate so I'll bid you good day.
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry
    « Reply #49 on: June 18, 2022, 07:17:52 PM »
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  • Lol...

    Operation Warpspeed.  Pandemic Farce.  The buck stops with him.

    At this point this is a foolish and ignorant debate so I'll bid you good day.

    Yes, please leave.  And seek help.


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    Re: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry
    « Reply #50 on: June 18, 2022, 11:37:22 PM »
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  • I don't know if Vigano is controlled opposition. 

    I do know that over and over again that is how the powers that shouldn't be have operated, so that's something I keep in mind.

    I do know that Vigano should stop making excuses for Trump and should call him out for continuing to push the genocide.

    I don't know why he doesn't but it's a huge red flag.

    I'm not responsible for the next antipope.

    I'm just telling people to take notice of Vigano's actions.

    Miser Peccator,

    For your reference, shortly before the 2020 Presidential election, Vigano stated that the crypto-Jєω, Donald Trump was the last hope for Western Civilization

      And people on this forum believed him.... and all the other BS Q Anon and Trump were feeding them :facepalm:

       And now, Trads on this forum actually think Vigano is a miraculous Novus ordo convert.  An apostolic trad-shepherd, who doesn't know Trump is a flaming pro-Mossad/Israeli Jєω.

      Now, just remember:  When Vigano fulfills his Opus Die mission, and when it's obvious he was "playing" the Catholic remnant, his Cathinfo supporters, will slink away and never admit they were bamboozled.




    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry
    « Reply #51 on: June 19, 2022, 06:50:11 AM »
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  • Somebody should tell him that Trump is a Freemason with kids who paid homage to the Rebbe Schneerson's grave for help with the election.

    Trump names his mentors as 33 degree Freemason Norman Vincent Peele and despicable Roy Cohn.

    Trump brought forth the Great Reset with the pandemic farce and his "Trumpcines".

    Trump partied with Epstein and Maxwell for over 30 years.  He is listed on the Lolita Express log.

    Trump approved of biometrics and pre-crime.

    Trump ushered in 5G.

    Despite thousands of deaths and millions of injuries, Trump is still pushing "His" shots and wants to be known as the "Father of the Vaccine".


    Why would such an intelligent and well informed man continually make excuses for Trump?
    You missed a few like him bragging he's the biggest "gαy" supporter than any other administration, biggest supporter of Israel and the Jєωs and the fact that while he didn't do much to push the abortion agenda, he didn't really attack the availability of infanticide either, the biggest thing he did was to show up at the March for Life in D.C., that was a start I guess. He also hobnobbed with some of the most deplorable politicians like the Clintons too.

    His biggest blunder in my opinion, was pulling out of the Iran nuclear deal and assasinating the Iranian general and national  hero Soleimani, a terrible decision that really came back to haunt him. also the strikes in Syria, more useless sabre rattling for Israel against a good man in Assad fighting against American-Israeli backed terrorists ISIS.


    I could go on with the negative on the Trumpster, but there's also a long list of positives, including calling China out on trade fairness and equity, pulling out of the WHO, super economy, building the wall on the border, etc, etc.


    At the end of the day, it was no brainer in supporting him for reelection over  the NO-BRAIN Brandon.

    We all see where that has gotten us.

    And I don't go for this " don't choose the lesser of two evils" nonsense, we do this every day in life.

    We all don't like to make certain choices, trust me, I'm not a big Trump-guy, but it's called survival.


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    Re: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry
    « Reply #52 on: June 19, 2022, 07:04:24 AM »
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  • I don't get this knocking Vigano, people complain about pope woke, the vatican fag mafia  and the nwo all the time and then when someone ACTUALLY does come out and attack it, then they're nothing but a bunch of phonys.

    just like Putin fighting Davos and the corrupt, collective West.......

    It's all " Ooh, don't believe them, they're false opposition and really pawns for the Jєωs and nwo!"

    Even if that's true, then as opposed to what? At least SOMEBODY'S doing SOMETHING!

    So as far Vigano, Putin or even Trump being wolf's in sheep's clothing ( although, that's the point, they're NOT being sheep), please, let me know when your Catholic monarch, crusader or messiah is out there and going to come and save the day for not only tradition, the Church but mankind in general. Because the only "catholics" out there in charge are failing miserably or , like Peℓσѕι, biden and the rest of the self addressed  "catholic" clowns, downright despicable and total tools of the Jєω world order.

    Right now, you have NO ONE in Catholic-dom leading the charge against anything.



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    Re: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry
    « Reply #53 on: June 19, 2022, 08:14:42 AM »
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  • ... please, let me know when your Catholic monarch, crusader or messiah is out there and going to come and save the day for not only tradition, the Church but mankind in general. ...

    When the Great Catholic Monarch & the restoration pope come, the same people will probably say they are controlled opposition.  ::)   

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    Re: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry
    « Reply #54 on: June 19, 2022, 06:23:28 PM »
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  • Miser Peccator,

    For your reference, shortly before the 2020 Presidential election, Vigano stated that the crypto-Jєω, Donald Trump was the last hope for Western Civilization.

      And people on this forum believed him.... and all the other BS Q Anon and Trump were feeding them :facepalm:

      And now, Trads on this forum actually think Vigano is a miraculous Novus ordo convert.  An apostolic trad-shepherd, who doesn't know Trump is a flaming pro-Mossad/Israeli Jєω.

      Now, just remember:  When Vigano fulfills his Opus Die mission, and when it's obvious he was "playing" the Catholic remnant, his Cathinfo supporters, will slink away and never admit they were bamboozled.


    Well, it's easy to get fooled these days.  All the more reason to stay on our toes and look out for red flags.

    Trump is the last hope for Western Civilization?  


    That doesn't sound like a Catholic.  That is not what any good Catholic should believe.

    A Freemason President of a Freemasonic country?

    A president who signed an executive order on anti-Semitism.  And by anti-Semitism they mean anti-Zionism:


    "Jared Kushner published an Op-Ed in the Times in which he stressed that the definition of anti-Semitism used in the executive order “makes clear what our administration has stated publicly on the record: Anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism.

    The Real Purpose of Trump’s Executive Order on Anti-Semitism
    https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-real-purpose-of-trumps-executive-order-on-anti-semitism

    Vigano took part in an ecuмenical Jericho prayer march to support Trump.

    Here is the advertisement description of that event:

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    Jericho March™ is comprised of ʝʊdɛօ-Christians [sic] collectively praying to God to intercede, expose a particular darkness, and bring about justice. As a community of believers, we take our petitions to heaven, and we know that our mighty and powerful God answers and can move mountains.

    Jericho was a city of false gods and corruption. Just as Joshua was instructed to march around the walls of Jericho, Jericho Marchers march around at a specific place and time until that darkness is exposed and the walls of corruption fall down.

    The Jericho Marches are also a unified celebration of authentic and diverse ʝʊdɛօ-Christian forms [of] worship including praying, chanting, preaching, singing, rosary recitations, Eucharistic processions, and blowing shofars. Individuals and groups on Jericho Marches are self-led.
    Those are clearly Masonic principles.  

    NOW exposes Vigano's promotion of Pelagianism, Indifferentism and "Freedom of Worship" in his address to Trump and the March:

    https://novusordowatch.org/2020/06/heresy-naturalism-in-vigano-letter-to-president-trump/




    Listen to what the WEF states about the plan for the NWO:

    "...  a peaceful coexistence of nations, without there being one nation that considers itself superior and legitimized to subjugate the others."

    The US will no longer be a super power and all nations will be equal.

    Are Catholic countries superior to others?

    Contrast that with this statement:

    "That in our times, especially the Catholic faith and the Christian religion be exalted and be everywhere increased and spread, that the health of souls be cared for, and that barbarous nations be overthrown and brought to the faith itself."  Pope Nicholas V 

    The Papal Bulls further stated that

    non Christians should be "Subjugated — and brought to the faith."

    Now that is what a Traditional Catholic Pope sounds like.

    That sounds like the Great Monarch and the last great hope for Western Civilization before the curtain of Godless paganism and darkness closes on us all!



    So actually...I have to confess...

    that modernist NWO statement about the peaceful coexistence of equal nations I quoted above is not from the WEF. 

    It's not from the UN.

    It's from Vigano's letter in the OP.

    Who does Vigano say would have brought about this peaceful coexistence of equal nations

    Trump.

    "The defeat of the deep state by the healthy forces within the United States of America will be the premise for a peaceful coexistence of nations, without there being one nation that considers itself superior and legitimized to subjugate the others. This is why Donald Trump was ousted by electoral fraud from the Presidency of the United States..."

    Trump would have realized this peaceful coexistence of equal nations if only he hadn't been ousted by the deep state?

    Scary.

    Beware the savior that comes to save the day after the destruction.
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry
    « Reply #55 on: June 19, 2022, 06:26:33 PM »
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  • I don't get this knocking Vigano, people complain about pope woke, the vatican fag mafia  and the nwo all the time and then when someone ACTUALLY does come out and attack it, then they're nothing but a bunch of phonys.

    just like Putin fighting Davos and the corrupt, collective West.......

    It's all " Ooh, don't believe them, they're false opposition and really pawns for the Jєωs and nwo!"

    Even if that's true, then as opposed to what? At least SOMEBODY'S doing SOMETHING!

    So as far Vigano, Putin or even Trump being wolf's in sheep's clothing ( although, that's the point, they're NOT being sheep), please, let me know when your Catholic monarch, crusader or messiah is out there and going to come and save the day for not only tradition, the Church but mankind in general. Because the only "catholics" out there in charge are failing miserably or , like Peℓσѕι, biden and the rest of the self addressed  "catholic" clowns, downright despicable and total tools of the Jєω world order.

    Right now, you have NO ONE in Catholic-dom leading the charge against anything.

    Don't expect any man to come and save you. 

    The remnant has to find a way to survive outside of the surveillance Internet of Things.
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry
    « Reply #56 on: June 19, 2022, 06:42:34 PM »
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  • Right now, you have NO ONE in Catholic-dom leading the charge against anything.

    Bingo!  And you're acknowledging this while we're on an "SSPX Resistance" forum.

    Where's the resistance?  Is it Vigano? 


    Now, in reality, we're surrounded.  We don't need Vigano tracts or even +W's EC's for consolation.

    We Catholics need to face the hard reality of mass martyrdom coming our way.

    Study the Cristeros War.  That will prepare you mentally and spiritually.

    Mexican Catholics were the bravest in the Americas.
    They had nothing but stood up and fought the Freemasonic Mexican government.


    By the time it was over 90,000 had died, including 4,000 priests.

    A Prayer of the Cristeros of Jalisco

    Elaine M. Jordan

    The Cristeros movement was a counter-revolutionary reaction of the Mexican Catholic people to the severe anticlerical laws emanating from the Constitution of 1917 under President Calles. It sought to secularize the country and remove the influence of the Catholic Church. Laws were enacted that severely restricted the clergy's political activities, expelled foreign priests, closed the Catholic schools and seized Church properties. Later, churches were closed and the Mass forbidden.

     The popular uprising against the Calles government began in Jalisco in the city of Guadalajara, on August 3, 1926, when some 400 armed Catholics shut themselves up in the Church of Our Lady of Guadalupe. They were involved in a shootout with federal troops and surrendered only when they ran out of ammunition. Jalisco became a focal point of the Cristeros counter-revolution. The Cristeros' battle cry was ¡Viva Cristo Rey! ¡Viva la Virgen de Guadalupe! ("Long live Christ the King! Long live the Virgin of Guadalupe!").

     The prayer below was said by the Cristeros of Jalisco at the end of the Rosary.


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    My Jesus Mercy! My sins are more numerous than the drops of blood that Thou did shed for me. I do not deserve to belong to the army that defends the rights of Thy Church and that fights for her. I desire never to sin again so that my life might be an offering pleasing to Thy eyes. Wash away my iniquities and cleanse me of my sins. By Thy Holy Cross, by my Holy Mother of Guadalupe, pardon me.

     Since I do not know how to make penance for my sins, I desire to receive death as a chastisement merited by them. I do not wish to fight, live or die except for Thee and for Thy Church. Blessed Mother of Guadalupe, be at my side in the agony of this poor sinner. Grant that my last shout on earth and my first canticle in Heaven should be Viva Cristo Rey! Amen



    Cristeros presenting arms at a Mass in Jalisco

    Cristeros present arms to Our Lord at a Mass said in southern Jalisco









    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry
    « Reply #57 on: June 19, 2022, 10:18:17 PM »
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  • When the Great Catholic Monarch & the restoration pope come, the same people will probably say they are controlled opposition::) 

    :laugh1:       Well, we’re obliged to discern what they do and say.

    My bet is we will immediately know they are authentic by their holiness.

    And they will speak clearly…

    a “yes” means “yes” and “no” = “no”…. and they won’t be timid to speak about the Jєωs and their minions.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry
    « Reply #58 on: June 19, 2022, 10:28:56 PM »
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    My Jesus Mercy! My sins are more numerous than the drops of blood that Thou did shed for me. I do not deserve to belong to the army that defends the rights of Thy Church and that fights for her. I desire never to sin again so that my life might be an offering pleasing to Thy eyes. Wash away my iniquities and cleanse me of my sins. By Thy Holy Cross, by my Holy Mother of Guadalupe, pardon me.

     Since I do not know how to make penance for my sins, I desire to receive death as a chastisement merited by them. I do not wish to fight, live or die except for Thee and for Thy Church. Blessed Mother of Guadalupe, be at my side in the agony of this poor sinner. Grant that my last shout on earth and my first canticle in Heaven should be Viva Cristo Rey! Amen




    Cristeros presenting arms at a Mass in Jalisco

    Cristeros present arms to Our Lord at a Mass said in southern Jalisco

    Thank you for posting this prayer, Incred, it's beautiful.
    Patience is a conquering virtue. The learned say that, if it not desert you, It vanquishes what force can never reach; Why answer back at every angry speech? No, learn forbearance or, I'll tell you what, You will be taught it, whether you will or not.
    -Geoffrey Chaucer

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    Re: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry
    « Reply #59 on: June 19, 2022, 10:34:00 PM »
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  • A+ on the penance part of that prayer, that is fantastic
    Regard all of my posts as unfounded slander, heresy, theologically specious etc
    I accept Church teaching on Implicit Baptism of Desire.
    Francis is Pope.
    NO is a good Mass.
    Not an ironic sig.