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Author Topic: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry  (Read 11019 times)

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2022, 12:23:40 PM »
There's a huge difference between asserting that he would not make a good pope (and I disagree) ... and quite another to say that there's something "deeply wrong" with him.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2022, 12:25:14 PM »
I don’t hear our Lord Jesus Christ speaking when I listen to Vigano.

And many of us do.  His writing reads like Encyclicals at times, the Encyclicals that we have longed for but not received for over 60 years now ... more than the work of any other Traditional Catholic writer.


Re: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2022, 12:30:24 PM »
I re-read +Vigano's letter to Trump, which catapulted him into the public arena, and there's absolutely nothing objectionable about it.  He describes the battle between light and darkness, without being binary about it, admitting that even though there's this division, many on the side of right in principle are beset with many sins and weaknesses.  He calls out the good things Trump did in favor of the unborn and against the persecutions of Christian, etc. ...

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This "dare to believe" is basically saying:  "Trump, if you are in fact on the side of good, if there's something real behind all these good things you did, please realize that we're at war with evil and do the right thing."  He basically identifies those in the "Trump camp" to be -- generally or vaguely-speaking -- on the side of good, and is appealing to Trump to do the right thing.

This is a terrific letter and there's absolutely nothing objectionable about it ... except for a comment that could be read as giving play to the notion of "Religious Liberty".

That is a lovely letter.
It was written two years ago.
Thousands of deaths have happened since then.
Vigano recognizes this:

"Let us have no illusions: these servants of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr who have managed to occupy the highest positions of national governments and international organizations are our enemies: enemies of the good and enemies of God. They do not care how many of us will have to die from the effects of the vaccine..."

Trump has clearly shown himself to be what Vigano calls an enemy.  According to Vigano's own criteria, Trump is an enemy of the good and an enemy of God.  Trump does not care how many will have to die from the effects of the vaccine.  He still pushes them and wants credit for it.  He puts his name on the product and sells it.  He is a mass murderer.

Instead of writing another lovely letter to Trump imploring for his "good side" to come out and save the babies and use his influence to stop the genocide

Vigano continually excuses Trump and blames everyone else.  

There is no excuse for that.

Re: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2022, 12:32:21 PM »
I just wonder how much time any of us have left, the darkness grows denser by the day.
I do believe by Christmas WWIII will be in full swing. 

Re: +Vigano Starting to Get Angry
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2022, 12:35:18 PM »
All I know is that somehow Vigano’s cuмulative avalanche of words falls far short of the true Voice of the Shepherd. “My sheep hear My voice: and I know them, and they follow Me.” I don’t hear our Lord Jesus Christ speaking when I listen to Vigano. Just my opinion while I await the full revelation of the sons of God.

Could it be that your Shepherd has goat horns and cloven hooves?

I absolutely hear the good shepherd in all his works.  Those who don’t may be cursed by the devil for preferring tinkling cymbals, and left to their own misery.

PS: Your final sentence is heretical and blasphemous. 

Carry on!