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Re: +Vigano: SSPX Should Use Old Holy Week
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2022, 08:48:47 PM »
Thank you, Jesus.  And thank you, Archbishop Vigano.  Thank you, Sean for posting this!  

Archbishop Vigano talks like how a Pope should talk.  

Re: +Vigano: SSPX Should Use Old Holy Week
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2022, 07:49:16 AM »
With all due respect for Abp. Vigano, I think he lets Pope  Pius XII  off the hook far too easily.
 I consider Pius XII the father of Vatican 2.  Vat. 2 didn't just spring up out of nowhere in 1962,  Pius XII had prepared the way for it years before, with a lot of help from others he surrounded himself with in the Vatican.


Re: +Vigano: SSPX Should Use Old Holy Week
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2022, 03:28:33 PM »
With all due respect for Abp. Vigano, I think he lets Pope  Pius XII  off the hook far too easily.


Possibly.  

I cringe at the unsubstantiated and sensational allegations made by the likes of Mary Martinez Ball.

And I applaud Vigano for perceiving the incongruity of Pius XII violating his own Mediator Dei only seven years after promulgating it (ie., which heavily corroborates Vigano’s contention that he was deceived and taken advantage of, because no pope would knowingly besmirch his own teaching and legacy with such a blatant contradiction, as many before Vigano have noticed).

For me, I think the truth is somewhere in between: All these deleterious events came under Pius XII’s watch, but none of it was malicious.  I think there was some deception and some naivety, and perhaps during his long illness some license taken by subordinates.  

For me, the floodgates were opened upon the election of Benedict XV, and his suppression of the Sodalitium Pianum, which sent a signal to all the modernists that they were able to resume their subversion now that Pius X was dead.  

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Re: +Vigano: SSPX Should Use Old Holy Week
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2022, 08:38:27 PM »
All these deleterious events came under Pius XII’s watch, but none of it was malicious.  I think there was some deception and some naivety, and perhaps during his long illness some license taken by subordinates. 

He was surrounded by Modernist rats and his own confessor (Bea) was a flipping marrano.  This, however, does not excuse his shortcomings and failure to do as Our Lady requested at Fatima.

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Re: +Vigano: SSPX Should Use Old Holy Week
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2022, 08:44:44 PM »
The prologue to the first step by Benedict XV was the complete rearrangement of the Roman Psalter for the Divine Office by St. Pius X.

Offensive to pious ears, bro.  St. Pius X's breviary is sublime.  Cardinal Bea's clunky translation, however, was the truly problematic precursor to the changes of 1955.  Said breviary (Bea's) became optional, an oddity in itself, in 1943, if memory serves.