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Re: +Vigano Sermon for Feast of the Purification
« Reply #60 on: February 06, 2023, 01:19:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on February 06, 2023, 01:07:05 PM
    Yes, the third rome and Katechon thing is troubling. Not sure if it's apostasy to say so. It might be.

    I don't fault +Vigano for supporting Trump. I supported Trump too. I'm not a freemason or luciferian.

    While I agree that there are disturbing aspects of +Vigano's writings, I'm not yet ready to say that he's a freemason or luciferian. The problem with some sedevacantists is that they take evidence as absolute proof. But that's not how the Church works.

    Do you promote Jews and Catholics praying together?

    Do you call Jews the "Children of the Light"?

    That's what Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ promotes.


    It's not just that he supported Trump.

    Do you still support Trump, the Father of the Vaccine who continues to want shots in arms and wants credit for it, after all the deaths?

    AFTER ABV called out everyone but Trump for the vaccines and deaths he praised Trump saying

    the pandemic farce would never have taken place under him.

    It's gaslighting.

    ABV:  Death and destruction...Vaccines causing death!

    Also ABV:  Trump is not the droid you are looking for.


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    Re: +Vigano Sermon for Feast of the Purification
    « Reply #61 on: February 06, 2023, 01:45:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on February 06, 2023, 01:19:27 PM
    Do you promote Jєωs and Catholics praying together?

    Do you call Jєωs the "Children of the Light"?

    That's what Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ promotes.


    It's not just that he supported Trump.

    Do you still support Trump, the Father of the Vaccine who continues to want shots in arms and wants credit for it, after all the deaths?

    AFTER ABV called out everyone but Trump for the vaccines and deaths he praised Trump saying

    the pandemic farce would never have taken place under him.

    It's gaslighting.

    ABV:  Death and destruction...Vaccines causing death!

    Also ABV:  Trump is not the droid you are looking for.



    If I did still support Trump, would that be proof that I'm a luciferian or freemason?
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    Re: +Vigano Sermon for Feast of the Purification
    « Reply #62 on: February 06, 2023, 01:55:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on February 06, 2023, 01:45:49 PM
    If I did still support Trump, is that proof that I'm a luciferian or freemason?

    No, but it would be dumb. lol :)

    It would defy all logic at this point in time since the body count is in and he clearly sees no problem with committing genocide on your fellow countrymen among other reasons.

    I've said this again and again but you may not have been on those threads...

    Sure, Vigano may not have known that Trump would Warpspeed death shots to the world at the time of the Jericho rally.

    The problem with the Jericho rally wasn't just that it supported Trump.

    From the rally flyer:

    Jericho March™ is comprised of ʝʊdɛօ-Christians [sic] collectively praying to God to intercede, expose a particular darkness, and bring about justice. As a community of believers, we take our petitions to heaven, and we know that our mighty and powerful God answers and can move mountains.

    The Jericho Marches are also a unified celebration of authentic and diverse ʝʊdɛօ-Christian forms [of] worship including praying, chanting, preaching, singing, rosary recitations, Eucharistic processions, and blowing shofars. Individuals and groups on Jericho Marches are self-led.
    see rest here:
    https://novusordowatch.org/2020/12/vigano-and-marshall-in-ecuмenical-prayer-rally/

    Yeah, no!  Hard pass!

    There's that little thing called the First Commandment.

    ʝʊdɛօ-Christianity is Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ in action.



    Shofar blowing is for calling forth the Moshiach.  The Antichrist!

    It also means death to Amalek.  That's us!


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    Re: +Vigano Sermon for Feast of the Purification
    « Reply #63 on: February 06, 2023, 02:19:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on February 06, 2023, 01:55:37 PM
    No, but it would be dumb. lol :)

    It would defy all logic at this point in time since the body count is in and he clearly sees no problem with committing genocide on your fellow countrymen among other reasons.

    I've said this again and again but you may not have been on those threads...

    Sure, Vigano may not have known that Trump would Warpspeed death shots to the world at the time of the Jericho rally.

    The problem with the Jericho rally wasn't just that it supported Trump.

    From the rally flyer:

    Jericho March™ is comprised of ʝʊdɛօ-Christians [sic] collectively praying to God to intercede, expose a particular darkness, and bring about justice. As a community of believers, we take our petitions to heaven, and we know that our mighty and powerful God answers and can move mountains.

    The Jericho Marches are also a unified celebration of authentic and diverse ʝʊdɛօ-Christian forms [of] worship including praying, chanting, preaching, singing, rosary recitations, Eucharistic processions, and blowing shofars. Individuals and groups on Jericho Marches are self-led.
    see rest here:
    https://novusordowatch.org/2020/12/vigano-and-marshall-in-ecuмenical-prayer-rally/

    Yeah, no!  Hard pass!

    There's that little thing called the First Commandment.

    ʝʊdɛօ-Christianity is Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ in action.



    Shofar blowing is for calling forth the Moshiach.  The Antichrist!

    It also means death to Amalek.  That's us!

    Well, I don't support Trump.

    I've never heard of the Jericho rally. In doing a Google search about it, I was sorry to see that both +Vigano and Lifesite news supported it though. I know you posted a link about from NovusOrdoWatch, but that site's not legit in my opinion. I won't view it. Thanks anyway.
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    Re: +Vigano Sermon for Feast of the Purification
    « Reply #64 on: February 06, 2023, 02:25:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on February 06, 2023, 02:19:00 PM
    Never heard of the Jerico rally.

    Ah, yes, I see.

    That's part of the problem I have with communicating about him since I've posted about this so many times I assume most people already know about this but I should remember not everyone reads all the threads.

    Yes, Taylor Marshall was there as well and promoted it bigtime!

    That should have ended all support for Vigano right there.

    Why would any Traditional Catholic support him after that?

    I've posted about this at least 6 times in the past year but it doesn't seem to faze people.

    This is what I'm talking about when I say he called Jews

    the "Children of the Light".

    This is how he addressed the whole crowd at the rally.

    Apparently you don't need to be baptized or Catholic to be a 

    "Child of the Light".

    You don't need to worship Jesus Our Lord and Savior.

    You only need to worship Trump.

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    Re: +Vigano Sermon for Feast of the Purification
    « Reply #65 on: February 06, 2023, 02:30:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on February 06, 2023, 02:25:19 PM
    Ah, yes, I see.

    That's part of the problem I have with communicating about him since I've posted about this so many times I assume most people already know about this but I should remember not everyone reads all the threads.

    Yes, Taylor Marshall was there as well.

    Taylor Marshall too? I'm not surprised. 

    I'm often quite selective in the threads I read.

    It's possible that +Vigano is affiliated with Opus Dei, since as we know, Opus Dei is good at infiltrating Trad circles (Indult). I couldn't find that Michael Voris has ever criticized +Vigano. As we know, Voris is affiliated with Opus Dei.
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    Re: +Vigano Sermon for Feast of the Purification
    « Reply #66 on: February 06, 2023, 02:35:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on February 06, 2023, 02:30:37 PM
    Taylor Marshall too? I'm not surprised.

    I'm often quite selective in the threads I read.

    It's possible that +Vigano is affiliated with Opus Dei, since as we know, Opus Dei is good at infiltrating Trad circles (Indult). I couldn't find that Michael Voris has ever criticized +Vigano. As we know, Voris is affiliated with Opus Dei.

    Opus Dei was part of the Symposium with AVB and Crowleyan Dugin.

    See this thread:

    https://twitter.com/2022moshiachnow/status/1608972005466046468
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    Re: +Vigano Sermon for Feast of the Purification
    « Reply #67 on: February 06, 2023, 02:56:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: Simeon on February 06, 2023, 12:25:10 PM
    Thank you.

    Yes, the rebuttal of the Missal argument is that the entire Missal is in Italian. There the phrase has an unambiguous Catholic sense.

    Yes, and the missal translates the Italian to "Amen".  Why wouldn't that be the same translation for his Italian letters?  Are these translations done by Google?  LOL 

    Also, why does he end all of his letters this way only recently?  Earlier writings did not.  

    I will continue to say something's off here despite those who refuse to even consider it.  
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    Re: +Vigano Sermon for Feast of the Purification
    « Reply #68 on: February 06, 2023, 03:12:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on February 06, 2023, 02:56:32 PM
    Yes, and the missal translates the Italian to "Amen".  Why wouldn't that be the same translation for his Italian letters?  Are these translations done by Google?  LOL

    Also, why does he end all of his letters this way only recently?  Earlier writings did not. 

    I will continue to say something's off here despite those who refuse to even consider it. 
    Perhaps you are right and there is something off about the translation, but it's not that important really since ʝʊdɛօ Christian Freemason ideals are certainly a consistent theme with him.

    He also sent a letter of support to Steve Bannon who can hardly go a minute without speaking of ʝʊdɛօ-Christian ethics and has had guests on promoting the Noahide laws.

    Here is Bannon at the Zionist Organization of America saying he is a Christian Zionist proud of the ʝʊdɛօ Christian West:

    ʝʊdɛօ-CHRISTIAN WARRIOR STEVE BANNON
    24 sec
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/pd48Meo8eT7Y/
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    Re: +Vigano Sermon for Feast of the Purification
    « Reply #69 on: February 06, 2023, 03:26:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on February 06, 2023, 02:30:37 PM
    Taylor Marshall too? I'm not surprised.

    I'm often quite selective in the threads I read.

    It's possible that +Vigano is affiliated with Opus Dei, since as we know, Opus Dei is good at infiltrating Trad circles (Indult). I couldn't find that Michael Voris has ever criticized +Vigano. As we know, Voris is affiliated with Opus Dei.

    Bishop Strickland and Fr Frank Pavone were also there.
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    Re: +Vigano Sermon for Feast of the Purification
    « Reply #70 on: February 06, 2023, 04:09:35 PM »
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    • In two letters he has invoked the name Sol Invictus for Jesus.

    Catholic Tradition has so many beautiful titles for Our Lord Jesus Christ to choose from.

    Think of the litanies and Church names!

    Why use this?

    Catholics won't readily recognize that term 

    but Freemasons, Luciferians and Satanists certainly will.

    It's their special term for their god.

    As I already posted, that is the name of a Freemason Lodge and the name Luciferians invoke for their sungod.  

    There is no need for these kinds ambiguities.


    When you look up Sol Invictus it does not pull up pictures of Jesus.


























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    Re: +Vigano Sermon for Feast of the Purification
    « Reply #71 on: February 06, 2023, 05:47:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on February 06, 2023, 12:02:06 PM
    Jєω at the Jericho March:  Archbishop Vigano, what must I do to be saved?

    ABV:  Accept Trump as your personal Lord and Savior and you will be a Child of the Light.


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    ABVigano to Jєωs, Protestants, Catholics and whatnot at the ʝʊdɛօ-Christian Jericho Rally:

    “We are the silent army of the children of Light"

    By speaking in the first person plural — “we” — he is making clear that he considers himself one of them and one with them. This is only consistent with the nature and purpose of the event, which the organizers had announced would be “comprised of ʝʊdɛօ-Christians collectively praying to God"

    St. Paul once warned the Ephesians: “Let no man deceive you with vain words. For because of these things [sins he had just enumerated] cometh the anger of God upon the children of unbelief. Be ye not therefore partakers with them. For you were heretofore darkness, but now light in the Lord. Walk then as children of the light” (Eph 5:6-8). Who are “the children of unbelief” if not non-Catholics — who are contrasted precisely with the “children of the light”?

    Vigano, on the other hand, considers the people he is addressing, collectively, to be the people of God, the “roaring church”

    So Vigano believes in a church that is comprised not only of Catholics but also of unbelievers of various stripes, who, presumably because they are fighting for a cause Vigano deems worthy, have been promoted by him to the status of “children of light”, “children of God”, and soldiers in God’s army. And this from a man who is widely seen as staunch and unyielding Catholic traditionalist — it defies belief!

    All in all, Vigano’s remarks are dangerous, outrageous, absurd, gravely erroneous theologically, and at least implicitly heretical.

    What makes matters worse is that Vigano is not simply your average, run-of-the-mill Novus Ordo bishop who simply doesn’t know better. Quite the contrary — he has demonstrated that he has an astute grasp of real Catholic doctrine and the corresponding errors of Vatican II.

    see full:

    https://novusordowatch.org/2020/12/vigano-and-marshall-in-ecuмenical-prayer-rally/

































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    Re: +Vigano Sermon for Feast of the Purification
    « Reply #72 on: February 06, 2023, 06:49:16 PM »
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    • Miser, please get off the internet; it's gotten to the point that it's created some psychological problems for you.

    Instead of apologizing for and retracting this particular allegation against +Vigano (after conclusive evidence regarding the use of this by Italian Traditional priests and even the screenshot of a Traditional Catholic Missal), you refuse to admit you were wrong, but instead frenetically pile on pages more of irrelevant spam.

    Your other allegations have also been debunked, as have been about half dozen of your borderline-insane conspiracy theories regarding the jab.  There's nothing you've ever read on the internet that you didn't believe.
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    Re: +Vigano Sermon for Feast of the Purification
    « Reply #73 on: February 06, 2023, 07:01:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 06, 2023, 06:49:16 PM
    Miser, please get off the internet


    lol :D

    We've discussed this a few times before, Lad.

    I never could understand your position.

    Please tell us, do you believe the same things as AB Vigano?

    Do you believe, Lad, that Jєωs and Catholics should pray together at rallies "comprised of ʝʊdɛօ-Christians collectively praying to God"?

    Do you believe that Jєωs are "children of the Light"?

    If you believe the same things as AB Vigano then it is you, Lad, who should get off the internet

    before you lead souls to Hell.



    St Joseph, terror of demons, pray for us!
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    Re: +Vigano Sermon for Feast of the Purification
    « Reply #74 on: February 06, 2023, 07:27:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on February 06, 2023, 12:20:57 PM


    There is no need for him to call Jesus the Luciferian god/Lodge name  "Sol Invictus".

    Most Catholics won't recognize anything special about those terms.

    Lodge members will recognize them immediately.

    Those terms mean something very special to them. 

    I've been looking around the internet, trying to find any Catholic association of 'Sol Invictus, the unconquered sun,' as +Vigano has used the phrase, with Catholicism, but cannot find ANY Catholic correlation with this phrase. None at all. Why would a Catholic use such a freemasonic phrase?
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