Vermont,

You know that's part of his schtick, right? At least he only accused you of "intellectual dishonesty," and not a "heretical view of the Papacy and the Church," like he has accused Sean, Stubborn, Plenus Venter and myself. I'd be careful though: you might be getting "proximate to heresy."

Since he doesn't respond to me - I asked him 3 times - perhaps you could ask him how Vigano, who holds Francis, BXVI, JPII, et al. to be actual, real popes - how Vigano, unlike Sean, Stubb, PV and moi - does not share our "heretical view" by likewise holding men popes of the Catholic Church who have ""corrupted the Faith and the Deposit of Revelation and impose[d] a Rite of Public Worship that displeases God and harms souls"? And while you're at it, ask him the same about Fr. Chazal - whom he also extols - as well.

Likely if you ask, then you won't have to avoid him, but he'll flee from like a deaf and dumb man.

DR

Ladislaus,

For the third time I ask you questions that might advance the ball and perhaps lend some clarity to the issues and discussion - or more likely show how bankrupt and flawed your reasoning is, which is likely why you don't respond:



Vigano and Chazal clearly hold the Conciliar popes to be popes, thereby holding men to be popes who have, according to you, "corrupted the Faith and the Deposit of Revelation and impose[d] a Rite of Public Worship that displeases God and harms souls."

How do they not hold the "heretical view of the Papacy and the Church" of Plenus Venter, Sean, Stubborn and myself?

DR


https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/miles-christi-volume-24-discussion-fr-chazal's-newsletter/msg868655/#msg868655

In another recent Vigano thread, he called me (and others) "arrogant dogmatic sedes" even though we had valid questions/concerns.. 

You'll have to keep trying to ask your questions on your own because I have begun to slowly weed out certain posters/monitor how and what I decide to post.  It is much better for my peace of mind and the state of my soul.  At this point, it is clear that I cannot interact with Ladislaus on this particular topic.

Ladislaus, you will always defend him no matter what.

Absolute nonsense.  I criticized him for being too soft on Ratzinger after the latter passed away.  Apart from the fact that I hope / pray he'll wake up to the fact that Bergoglio is the Antipope, I've found no other fault with him thus far.  But I'm not going to stand for this smear campaign against +Vigano by certain individuals, especially the psychotic behavior of Miser, for whom +Vigano can do no right.

She's smeared him with the "So mote it be" garbage that's been thoroughly debunked, and then with the "Sol Invictus" nonsense.  You can agree or disagree with his making a speech to the Jericho crowd (I find nothing wrong with it, as it was primarily a political rally regarding the election fraud), but to claim that as a result of giving that speech, he's participating in Ecuмenical prayer ... that's absolutely absurd and slanderous.  When he used various psychological tactics in an attempt to persuade Trump to take certain course of action, to smear him for condoning the jab, when he's been one of the strongest voices out there condemning it (while various Trads condoned it), that too is slanderous.  You can disagree with his tactics, but to characterize him as something he's not is calumny and slander.

There are a handful of individuals here who despise +Vigano and are engaged in a smear campaign.  It's slanderous and sinful to spread allegations that +Vigano is some kind of Jєω or Mason infiltrator.  Disagree with this, that, or the other point if you wish ... but who is perfect and infallible?  Archbishop Lefebvre made mistakes, so have those SV Trad clergy who condoned the jab, etc.  But that doesn't mean I'm going to go on a smear campaign against Bishop Sanborn because I disagree with his viewpoint on the jab.  Perhaps he's some Rosicrucian Masonic infiltrator too!  It's hogwash, and it needs to stop yesterday.  Miser needs to be banned, and this garbage needs to be deleted.  Hey, Father Jenkins has praised +Vigano, perhaps he's some evil infiltrator also.  Bishop Williamson has said positive things about Putin.  He too is likely a promoter of Dugin.  Where does this garbage stop?

Until someone can articulate what agenda +Vigano has and what harm he's doing, the conspiracy theories are just so much nonsense.  When the next two or three smears get debunked, Miser will just come up with another one.  It's disgraceful, and it makes Traditional Catholics look bad.

Yes, Dugin is such a bad guy and we don't want to in any way imply that he has anything at all to do with Holy Putin do we.

We must distance Holy Putin and Satanist Dugin at all costs.

So why don't you take your smear campaign to Bishop Williamson, who's also said that Putin is in the right with regard to the Ukraine situation?

You need to desist from your sinful slander campaign against +Vigano, and you need to seek psychological help.  Above all, you of all people need to get off the internet.  This is utterly disgraceful.

1) Putin has never endorsed Dugin or anything Dugin has had to say, but, has deliberately kept a distance from him.
2) Saying that Putin is right vis-a-vis the Ukraine situation is not to endorse everything Putin is, does, or says.

If you can't sort this second point out in your mind, you have no business posting about anything ... at risk of your own soul.  I praise Bishop Williamson regularly, but at the same time disagree with him about Garabandal, Akita, and his more recent views about Eucharistic miracles and the NOM.  I often praise Bishop Sanborn, but his position on the jab was very disappointing.  If you can't come to grips with the possibility of disagreeing with someone on one or another issue without having to smear their character, then you need to stop posting.

Lad,

Do you believe it is a sin for Catholics and Jєωs to pray together?

Do you believe it is a sin to promote such behavior?

Do you believe that Jєωs are Children of the Light?

Reread my previous posts on all these subjects.  They're been thoroughly addressed.  Above all, re-read my last post.  If you want to disagree with +Vigano over one or another issue, that's fine.  But your relentless smear campaign has crossed over into slander.  You alleged that he was some Mason using the expression "So mote it be" or some promoter of paganism for using the "Sol Invictus" title for Our Lord, etc.  You need to be honest with yourself that you have some kind of prior bias and contempt for the man, and it's leading you to slander him repeatedly.

Absolute nonsense.  I criticized him for being too soft on Ratzinger after the latter passed away.  Apart from the fact that I hope / pray he'll wake up to the fact that Bergoglio is the Antipope, I've found no other fault with him thus far. 

Last post to you on this topic.

Saying Ratzinger is in Heaven is much worse than being "too soft". So, yes, still defending him.

“comprised of ʝʊdɛօ-Christians collectively praying to God"

No Catholic should ever attend such a thing even if they don't participate in the prayers.

Vigano's promotion of this event led Catholic souls into mortal sin.


That's it!  We're done!  No more needs to be said.

Next.



After that event no Catholic should have anything to do with Vigano much less look to him for leadership or post his letters and drool over his words as if they are the Gospel itself.

And papabile?  He encourages Catholics to attend an event


“comprised of ʝʊdɛօ-Christians collectively praying to God"

and he's papabile?


The Freemason/Gnostic symbolism is not provable.  It never is.  That's how they operate with symbols that have dual meaning.  It's something you take note of and add to the cuмulative evidence about a person.

The Jericho rally raised money for Israel.  There were rabbis and protestant pastors and Catholic priests joining together in prayer.

They blew shofars which is a symbol of ushering in the Moshiach/Antichrist and death to Amalek/Christians!  They must have been laughing at all the Catholics who were there.  smh


You can see all the shofar blowing fun and games in this thread:


https://twitter.com/2022moshiachnow/status/1617670529644912640

Spirit of Assisi.......

I don’t think anyone here doesn’t like Archbishop Vigano. 

I like him (but disagree with certain things. )  I have made past mistakes of putting trust in man instead of God. 

I think about St Patrick who was a Catholic but going through the motions. Then he is a slave tending to his cruel master’s flock.  He would later feed His Sheep.

Well, if he and Taylor Marshall are leading naive and gullible Catholics into mortal sin by giving his stamp of approval on these rallies then I don't see what there is to like.

He has stated that ecuмenism is wrong and then he participates in an ecuмenical rally?

He speaks out of both sides of his mouth.

And no it wasn't just a political event.

The flyers made it very, very, clear it was a religious event.

It states that "Jericho was a city of false gods"

then goes on to say it's a unified celebration of authentic and diverse ʝʊdɛօ-Christian forms of worship (false gods?)

including praying, preaching, singing, rosary recitations, Eucharistic processions, and blowing shofars.

AB Vigano and Taylor Marshall led gullible Catholics to take part in this to the peril of their souls.

No Catholic should have attended this.







Do Archbishop Vigano and T Marshall know what ʝʊdɛօ-Christian means?

"people of ʝʊdɛօ-Christian faith pray together"??

What exactly is the ʝʊdɛօ-Christian faith?

Unfortunately, most Catholics are not formed enough in their faith to understand that participation in this event is a

mortal sin against the First Commandment.

It is the spirit of Assisi.

Taylor Marshall and Vigano should have informed Catholics to avoid committing mortal sin by attending rather than lead them into it.


See the full thread here:

https://twitter.com/2022moshiachnow/status/1605024604958892033