Author Topic: +Vigano Replies to a Priest (Read 4760 times)

donkath · « **Reply #15 on:** February 04, 2021, 12:23:29 AM »

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Right and Duty to Avoid New Mass Parishes: It’s About More Than the Latin Mass
Yet, do Catholics have the right to separate themselves from their geographical parish if it does not offer the sacraments according to the traditional rites and sound Catholic education? He unambiguously affirms that “faithful laity have the right and the duty to find priests, communities and institutes that are faithful to the perennial Magisterium. And may they know how to accompany the laudable celebration of the liturgy in the Ancient Rite with adherence to sound doctrine and morals, without any subsidence on the front of the Council.” It is important that Archbishop Viganò declares this avoidance of New Mass parishes not only a right but also a duty. That means it is not just permissible to do so if one prefers a Latin Mass, but for those who understand what is at stake it constitutes an obligation, a duty. He also makes clear that what the faithful need to find is not simply a place in which they can attend the Traditional Mass. Their duty is to find a place that offers the Ancient Rite together with sound doctrine that does not sink into (“subsidence”) the Council.

His Grace underscores this inherent connection that must exist between the Mass and doctrine by the term he uses several times to refer to the Traditional Mass. He calls it simply the “Catholic Rite”. He eschews the ambiguous and inaccurate term “extraordinary form of the Roman Rite”. He makes clear that priests should offer the Catholic Rite not merely “to preserve the extraordinary form of the rite, but to testify to adherence to the depositum fidei that finds perfect correspondence only in the Ancient Rite.” The adverb “only” is extremely significant. The Old Mass is not merely an optional choice among two equal forms (new and old). It is the “only” one that perfectly corresponds to the Deposit of Faith (depositum fidei). [...]

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claudel · « **Reply #16 on:** February 04, 2021, 03:08:16 AM »

Quote from: Papa Pius V on February 03, 2021, 06:11:31 PM

With all due respect, Archbishop Vigano does not deserve to kiss the dust upon which Archbishop Lefebvre walked. He is frankly, and again with all due respect, a coward.

I am willing to bet that you are as ignorant of the true peril to life and limb that Archbishop Viganò's words and conduct over the past decade have placed him in as you plainly are of the nature of authentic courage and cowardice. Consider changing your screen name to Papa Alexander VI.

Matthew · « **Reply #17 on:** February 04, 2021, 04:07:26 AM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on February 02, 2021, 01:58:03 PM

Brilliant from top to bottom. I agree with Bishop Williamson that this man is a gift to us; to strengthrn us in our faith in preparation of what might await us (per his last paragraph).

I agree.
Cardinal Vigano seems to be completely awake on the important issues.
I don't know if he's missing anything -- what more could he do or say? Does he need to lay aside his crimson robes and join the Resistance? I guess one could argue that would be the "perfect" in his case.
Nevertheless, I'm not going to criticize the man! He's doing plenty.

Papa Pius V · « **Reply #18 on:** February 04, 2021, 06:33:36 AM »

Quote from: claudel on February 04, 2021, 03:08:16 AM

I am willing to bet that you are as ignorant of the true peril to life and limb that Archbishop Viganò's words and conduct over the past decade have placed him in as you plainly are of the nature of authentic courage and cowardice. Consider changing your screen name to Papa Alexander VI.

Boohoo. Cry me a river.
He is a Bishop and a leader. Loss of life and limb should be far from what he's afraid of to stand up for truth in this time of great madness. Archbishop Lefebvre did much more than talk out of a dark hole. When Archbishop Vigano decides to do the same then we may think that he is worthy of the same respect.
Don't hold your breath.

KevinBrumley · « **Reply #19 on:** February 04, 2021, 03:09:05 PM »

It truly is amazing that certain people here will overlook Vigano's strange Americanism and yet not bat an eye at straining the words of SSPX priests in order to squeeze out heterodoxy.

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