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Offline SeanJohnson

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The SSPX Turns 50
« on: November 01, 2020, 05:30:55 PM »
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  • Today, many of you were treated sermons about how the SSPX has been faithful to the mission of its founder, but those sermons contained no rejection of Vatican II, Roman modernism, the errors of the Council, or a rejection of conciliarism.  Instead, the battle was whittled down to the fight for the true Mass (a la FSSP, ICK, indult), and how God's providence manifests the special mission of the SSPX in how it has triumphed over sedevacantism, the Resistance, the FSSP, etc.

    Of course, we all agree that God raised up Archbishop Lefebvre to preserve the Faith amidst the conciliar catastrophe, but is the SSPX still fightin gon all the same fronts Archbishop Lefebvre did?

    Well, here is Fr. Alois Bruhwiler's take (former SSPX priest, and current member of the SAJM):

    https://cristiadatradicinalista.blogspot.com/2020/11/50-apres-sa-fondation-la-fraternite.html

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    50 after its foundation, has the Fraternity of Saint Pius X changed?


    On the occasion of the 50th anniversary of the foundation of the FSSPX, Father Brüwhiler makes a brief assessment of the situation.
    spiritual and doctrinal aspects of the state of the FSSPX in 2020. This work was to be, following Archbishop Lefebvre, the spiritual and pastoral beacon for Catholics disoriented by the modernist revolution within the Church. Father Brüwhiler, a former member of the FSSPX, is obliged to note that the main pillars of the work have been undermined by liberal maneuvers. But the legacy of Archbishop Lefebvre will not perish: faithful bishops and priests will pass it on with the grace of God!  


    In 2007, with the promulgation of the motu proprio Summorum Pontificuм, the Society of Saint Pius X (FSSPX) manifested, through its superior, a new spiritual orientation. It was an event that tended to prove that the work of Archbishop Lefebvre was no longer leading only "the battle of the Mass" as the Fraternity of Saint Peter had been doing since 1988.

    But this event was preceded and accompanied by many others: in detail, here are the new positions of the FSSPX:

    - Since 2000 the official FSSPX no longer speaks of the "Conciliar Church".

    - "The Second Vatican Council is 95% compatible with the tradition of the Church" (Bishop Fellay, Interview Basler Zeitung, May 2001).

    - "The new Mass of 1969 is legitimate" (Bishop Fellay, April 14, 2012).

    - At Pentecost 2017 the Superior General of the FSSPX said in the sermon: "There is only one Church," whereas Archbishop Lefebvre had always distinguished the conciliar Church from the Church of all time.

    - The state of necessity according to the FSSPX no longer exists. The tradition is said to be "normalized" or in the process of being normalized.

    - The doctrinal differences between Rome and Menzingen ("it is only 5% of the Second Vatican Council") will be the subject of future written discussions of a private nature when the opportunity arises.

    - For the Vatican the sacraments of the FSSPX are legitimate and valid; the FSSPX for its part recognizes the validity of all post-conciliar sacraments (including marriage and priest/bishop ordinations).

    - The FSSPX recognizes the Code of Modernist Canon Law of 1983. This is in itself the most serious element since the code contains within itself the whole spirit of the Council.

    - Ordinations in the seminaries of the FSSPX take place with the tacit agreement of Rome. All the priests of the FSSPX are considered by the conciliar Church to be canonically legitimate. Pope Benedict XVI's sentence of March 10, 2009: "As long as the Society does not have a canonical position in the Church, its ministers also do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church" has now become obsolete.

    - The statement "the FSSPX has not yet made an agreement with Rome" is more hypocritical than true, because, since 2013, Pope Francis and Bishop Fellay have the same plan: "slowly and step by step the normalization of the FSSPX is done through practice" (without a formal agreement, without signature).

    - With the publication of the Acts of its 2018 Chapter, the FSSPX has made official its abandonment of Archbishop Lefebvre's position vis-à-vis the Conciliar Church.

    The principles of the new orientation of the FSSPX are clearly stated in the letter of April 7, 2012, from the three bishops Tissier de Mallerais, Williamson and Galarreta. But this good letter, in keeping with the spirit and positions of the founder of the FSSPX, was severely rejected by a response from the Superior General on April 14, 2012.

    So today's FSSPX has left the faith struggle of the founder of the FSSPX, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.

    Father Alois Brühwiler SAJM

    Riddes, November 1, 2020

    Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: The SSPX Turns 50
    « Reply #1 on: November 02, 2020, 08:40:00 AM »
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  • 50 after its foundation, has the Fraternity of Saint Pius X changed?


    On the occasion of the 50th anniversary of the foundation of the FSSPX, Father Brüwhiler makes a brief assessment of the situation.
    spiritual and doctrinal aspects of the state of the FSSPX in 2020. This work was to be, following Archbishop Lefebvre, the spiritual and pastoral beacon for Catholics disoriented by the modernist revolution within the Church. Father Brüwhiler, a former member of the FSSPX, is obliged to note that the main pillars of the work have been undermined by liberal maneuvers. But the legacy of Archbishop Lefebvre will not perish: faithful bishops and priests will pass it on with the grace of God!  
    Well...
    https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/catalog-of-compromise-change-and-contradiction-in-the-sspx/
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    Re: The SSPX Turns 50
    « Reply #2 on: November 02, 2020, 01:17:57 PM »
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  • hmmmmmm, this was somewhat true in this week's homily, but last week the priest explicitly condemned Vatican II as heresy from the pulpit so... IDK...

    Maybe Long Island is one of the good places?

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    Re: The SSPX Turns 50
    « Reply #3 on: November 02, 2020, 02:04:26 PM »
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  • Hey ByzCat3000......is that Fr. Steven Soos at Long Island ?

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    Re: The SSPX Turns 50
    « Reply #4 on: November 06, 2020, 06:21:01 AM »
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  • Hey ByzCat3000......is that Fr. Steven Soos at Long Island ?
    No its Fr. Carl Sulzen.


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    Re: The SSPX Turns 50
    « Reply #5 on: November 06, 2020, 10:05:16 AM »
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  • The SSPX had a good run, but in 2012 they started yearning for the fleshpots of Modernist Rome, and wearied of The Fight -- they were sick of being marginalized and maligned by the Modern World. They wanted acceptance, "finally".

    They weakened and lost heart.

    I'm speaking of the highest leadership, and a good % of the priests, as well as the Faithful. And that faction took/maintains full control of the organization and its future direction.

    There is no human hope for the SSPX. It would take a miracle for the organization to turn around.
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