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+Vigano on Bergoglio’s CÖVÌD Church
« on: January 16, 2021, 12:51:37 PM »
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    Archbishop Viganò reacts to Pope Francis saying all must take the CÖVÌD ναccιnє
    Considerations by Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò on the promotion of the ναccιnє by the Holy See.
    Fri Jan 15, 2021 - 9:55 am EST
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/abp-vigano-on-francis-push-for-vaccination-the-salvation-of-the-body-is-the-supreme-law 

    By Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò




    The fact that the ναccιnє does not give any guarantee of efficacy but rather can induce serious side effects; the fact that in some cases it has been produced starting from cells taken from aborted fetuses, and therefore is absolutely irreconcilable with Catholic morality; the fact that treatment with hyper-immune plasma or with alternative protocols are being boycotted despite the evidence of their efficacy — all of this means little to the new “expert” who, on the basis of absolutely zero medical competency, is now recommending the ναccιnє to the faithful while using his sovereign authority to require the citizens of the Vatican to submit to questionable treatment in the name of an unspecified “ethical duty.” The bleak Paul VI Audience Hall has been emblematically chosen as the temple in which to celebrate this new sanitary rite, officiated by ministers of the CÖVÌD religion in order to assure, certainly not the salvation of souls, but rather the illusory promise of health for the body.

    It is disconcerting that, after unscrupulously demolishing no small number of Catholic truths in the name of dialogue with heretics and idolaters, the one dogma which Bergoglio is not ready to renounce is that of obligatory vaccination — mind you, a dogma which he himself unilaterally defined without any synodal process! — a dogma before which one would expect there to be at least a minimum of prudence, if not dictated by moral coherence, then at least by utilitarian scruple. Because sooner or later, when the effects of the ναccιnє on the population are seen, when they begin to count the deaths it has caused and how many people have been maimed for life by a drug that is still in the process of experimentation, someone will be able to ask those who were convinced supporters of the ναccιnє to render an account.

    At that point it will only be natural to draw up a list of those who in virtue of the authority with which they are recognized have convinced their unsuspecting subjects to present themselves for inoculation by the so-called ναccιnє: self-proclaimed experts, virologists and immunologists with a conflict of interest, mosquito scientists in the pay of Big Pharma, veterinarians with scientific ambitions, government-funded journalists and opinion-shapers, and movie stars and popular singers in disgrace — to which list Bergoglio must now be added as an exceptional supporter, along with the Prelates in his entourage. And if today the lack of specific competency does not seem to be a sufficient argument to lead them to at least maintain a prudent silence, at that point their protests of “I didn’t know...;” “I never imagined...;” “It wasn’t my field of knowledge...;” will be judged only to be a factor that aggravates their offense, as it should be. Stultum est dicere putabam [It is foolish to say, “I thought.”].

    Of course, in the Bergoglian church de facto concubinage can be legitimized with Amoris Lætitia, to the point that Avvenire speaks today of “LGBT parenting” with the ease of a gender propaganda pamphlet; an idolatrous rite worshiping Mother Earth can be celebrated in Saint Peter’s winking at Malthusian environmentalism; the matter for the Sacrament of Holy Orders can be modified, conferring ministries on women; the death penalty can be declared immoral while casually keeping quiet about abortion; Communion can be administered to public sinners while denying it to those who wish to receive it on the tongue in order not to commit sacrilege; and access to the classroom can be denied for Catholic school students who are not ναccιnαted, as has already happened in Ireland. And yet these blatant adulterations of Catholic doctrine — in perfect ideological continuity with the conciliar ʀɛʋօʟutιօn — are accompanied by the firm and unshakeable profession of faith in a “science” that borders on esotericism and superstition. On the other hand, when you stop believing in God, you can believe anything.

    Thus, if for Bergoglio belonging to the one Church of Christ through Baptism is ultimately superfluous for the eternal salvation of a soul, the initiatory rite of the ναccιnє is proclaimed ex cathedra to be indispensable for the physical health of the individual, and as such it is presented as undelayable and necessary. If it is possible to set aside revealed truth in the name of ecuмenism and inter-religious dialogue, it is likewise not licit to question the dogmas of CÖVÌD, the revelation made by the media about the pandemic, and the salvific sacrament of the ναccιnє. And if with Fratelli Tutti universal brotherhood can be promoted apart from faith in the One God Living and True, no contact is permitted with so-called “deniers” — a new category of sinners to be avoided — who must be punished as heretics by the health inquisition and media excommunication so as to be made a warning to the flock. “If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him in your house and do not greet him,” Saint John warns (2 Jn 10). Bergoglio must have misunderstood, and so he greets and embraces abortionists and criminals, but he does not contaminate himself with “anti-vaxxers.eadline

    It does not escape us that this scientistic dogmatism — which would horrify the most ardent supporters of the primacy of science over religion — is propagated by those who are not scientists, from “influencers” to Bergoglio, from athletes to Bıdɛn, from “experts” to politicians: all eager to put out their arms in front of the television cameras, only to discover from the videos that in many cases the syringe needle is still covered by the cap, or that the inoculating liquid is clear when the vaccinating serum should actually be opaque. These are obviously objections that the high priests of CÖVÌD reject with disdain: the mysterium is part of the ritualization of the sacred action, just as the sacramentumaccomplishes what it signifies; administering the ναccιnє with a retractable needle or without pushing the plunger of the syringe serves to dramatize the message that is to be transmitted to the masses of believers. And the victims of the rite, those who for the good of all offer themselves with docility to the mirage of an immunity that not even Pfizer, Moderna, or AstraZeneca dares to guarantee, represents the sacrificium, which is also part of the new health religion. On closer inspection, the innocent babies aborted in the third month of pregnancy to produce ναccιnєs really do seem to form a sort of human sacrifice with which to propitiate the infernal powers, in a terrifying parody that only the wicked can pretend not to see.

    In the grotesque ceremonial delirium, there is not even lacking the Note of the Sacred Congregation for Divine Worship, which with a total disregard for the absurd even promulgates in limping Latin instructions on how to impose the Sacred Ashes (it is not surprising that Latin too has gone to fry): “Deinde sacerdos abstergit manus ac personam ad protegendas nares et os induit[Then the priest washes his hands and puts on the mask to protect his nose and mouth].” The purification of the hands with detergent and the use of a mask are scientifically useless but symbolically necessary for the transmission of the faithexpressed by the rite. And precisely in this we understand how true and valid is the ancient adage of Prosper of Aquitaine “Lex orandi, lex credendi,” according to which the way in which one prays reflects what one believes.

    Someone will object, in a pious attempt to avoid the total collapse of the Papacy carried out by Bergoglio, that the opinions expressed by him are and remain precisely opinions, and that therefore there is no obligation for the Catholic to submit to a ναccιnє which his conscience and natural morality demonstrate to be immoral. But the new “papal magisterium” has been made explicit right on Canale5, just as it was on the plane that the LGBT dogma “Who am I to judge?” was defined, and just as it was in a footnote of Amoris Lætitia that the indissolubility of marriage was denied in the name of pastoral practice. Politicians put out tweets on social media, self-styled experts pontificate in television studios, and prelates preach in interviews: do not be surprised if one day Bergoglio appears in a publicity spot to endorse electric scooters.

    Catholics, illuminated by the sensus fidei that instinctively suggests to them what clashes with Faith and Morals, have already understood that the role of healthcare supply salesman is only one of the many parts played by the polyhedric Bergoglio. The only role that he stubbornly insists on not wanting to fill — because of his blatant incapacity, his innate impatience, or even through his deliberate choice right from the beginning — is the role of Vicar of Christ. Which, if nothing else, reveals the points of reference of the Argentine, the ideology which inspires him, the goals he sets for himself, and the means he intends to use in order to achieve them.

    + Carlo Maria Viganò, Archbishop

    January 14, 2021

    S. Hilarii Episcopi,
    Confessoris Ecclesiæ Doctori
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    Re: +Vigano on Bergoglio’s CÖVÌD Church
    « Reply #1 on: January 16, 2021, 01:11:15 PM »
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  • If only this man were pope!

    A couple blunders aside, he is clearly an inveterate opponent of modernism and the NWO.

    He is daily shedding himself of 50+ years of conciliarisms (despite the rare relapse).

    If this man were pope, there would be no need of a Resistance, sedevacantism, or SSPX.  

    There is not the least doubt in my mind that he would abolissh the entire conciliar enterprise, from Vatican II until today, restore the old sacraments, and condemn error in and out of season.

    But he is already 80.

    That said, I believe with Bishop Williamson, that +Vigano is a gift, given to us precisely for these times, to fortify us for a while.

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    Re: +Vigano on Bergoglio’s CÖVÌD Church
    « Reply #2 on: January 16, 2021, 01:42:47 PM »
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  • If only this man were pope!

    A couple blunders aside, he is clearly an inveterate opponent of modernism and the NWO.

    He is daily shedding himself of 50+ years of conciliarisms (despite the rare relapse).

    If this man were pope, there would be no need of a Resistance, sedevacantism, or SSPX.  

    There is not the least doubt in my mind that he would abolissh the entire conciliar enterprise, from Vatican II until today, restore the old sacraments, and condemn error in and out of season.

    But he is already 80.

    That said, I believe with Bishop Williamson, that +Vigano is a gift, given to us precisely for these times, to fortify us for a while.
    He is also a gift to us in another sense. I often forward his messages to friends and relatives who have fallen away from the Faith because they see how Bergolgio behaves.
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    Re: +Vigano on Bergoglio’s CÖVÌD Church
    « Reply #3 on: January 16, 2021, 02:37:35 PM »
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  • There is not the least doubt in my mind that he would abolish the entire conciliar enterprise, from Vatican II until today, restore the old sacraments, and condemn error in and out of season.

    But he is already 80.

    My grandfather lived to almost 101 years of age and was a chief accountant of a large hotel till he was 98, then he came to run the accounting in his grandsons businesses till he died. He was sharp as a whip every second of his life on Earth. He went to sleep one night and didn't wake up the next day. Vigano can do the same, it is not like he is a weight lifter or does heavy physical work. It all depends on God, and whether there are enough Catholics living the Faith to deserve a good (a real) pope.
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    Re: +Vigano on Bergoglio’s CÖVÌD Church
    « Reply #4 on: January 16, 2021, 06:14:37 PM »
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  • Interesting observation regarding the high profile personas allegedly being ναccιnαted on live TV:

    "It does not escape us that this scientistic dogmatism — which would horrify the most ardent supporters of the primacy of science over religion — is propagated by those who are not scientists, from “influencers” to Bergoglio, from athletes to Bıdɛn, from “experts” to politicians: all eager to put out their arms in front of the television cameras, only to discover from the videos that in many cases the syringe needle is still covered by the cap, or that the inoculating liquid is clear when the vaccinating serum should actually be opaque. These are obviously objections that the high priests of CÖVÌD reject with disdain: the mysterium is part of the ritualization of the sacred action, just as the sacramentum accomplishes what it signifies; administering the ναccιnє with a retractable needle or without pushing the plunger of the syringe serves to dramatize the message that is to be transmitted to the masses of believers."
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    Re: +Vigano on Bergoglio’s CÖVÌD Church
    « Reply #5 on: January 17, 2021, 08:06:50 AM »
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  • Interesting observation regarding the high profile personas allegedly being ναccιnαted on live TV:

    "It does not escape us that this scientistic dogmatism — which would horrify the most ardent supporters of the primacy of science over religion — is propagated by those who are not scientists, from “influencers” to Bergoglio, from athletes to Bıdɛn, from “experts” to politicians: all eager to put out their arms in front of the television cameras, only to discover from the videos that in many cases the syringe needle is still covered by the cap, or that the inoculating liquid is clear when the vaccinating serum should actually be opaque. These are obviously objections that the high priests of CÖVÌD reject with disdain: the mysterium is part of the ritualization of the sacred action, just as the sacramentum accomplishes what it signifies; administering the ναccιnє with a retractable needle or without pushing the plunger of the syringe serves to dramatize the message that is to be transmitted to the masses of believers."

    ...not to mention the video of Fauci allegedly being ναccιnαted in his left arm, then in a post (fake)vaccination interview rubbing his RIGHT shoulder and mentioning his only side effect was a bit of post-injection site pain.

    These fɾαυds aren’t taking the poison they’re selling the world on.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: +Vigano on Bergoglio’s CÖVÌD Church
    « Reply #6 on: January 17, 2021, 08:38:40 AM »
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  • If only this man were pope!

    While such sentiments are completely understandable, we need someone MUCH better, brighter and holier to right the rat-infested, inundated ship at this late hour.

    No disrespect to Vigano (or to you, Sean), but we have been wandering in a desolate, demon-controlled land for so long that anything that looks halfway decent naturally elicits such a response.  Half a loaf looks pretty enticing to a starving man, even if it is stale, partially moldy, etc.
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    Re: +Vigano on Bergoglio’s CÖVÌD Church
    « Reply #7 on: January 17, 2021, 09:30:59 AM »
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  • Vigano wrote: "Someone will object, in a pious attempt to avoid the total collapse of the Papacy carried out by Bergoglio, that the opinions expressed by him are and remain precisely opinions, and that therefore there is no obligation for the Catholic to submit to a ναccιnє which his conscience and natural morality demonstrate to be immoral..."

    Oh, the irony!  This is precisely what practically all Trads have done endlessly regarding ALL of the doctrinal, liturgical, disciplinary, etc., insanity spewed forth from Rome since Day One of this Crisis unto this very hour!

    "Yes, there are what SEEM to be heresies galore, but nothing has been taught ex cathedra...nothing is binding...no one has the authority to state that which is patently obvious..."

    Apparently, Holy Church has taken NO meaningful "official" actions in 50+ years, yet everything has been laid waste beyond comprehension.

    Get ready.  We're about to live the unavoidable consequence of decades of mindless, spineless acceptance of satanic impostors.
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    Re: +Vigano on Bergoglio’s CÖVÌD Church
    « Reply #8 on: January 17, 2021, 09:39:25 AM »
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  • Archbishop Viganò Criticises Francis’ “Last Dogma”

    https://gloria.tv/post/XFrstGzLmAQh1j4YrBY27Zupy

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    Re: +Vigano on Bergoglio’s CÖVÌD Church
    « Reply #9 on: January 17, 2021, 11:11:56 AM »
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  • While such sentiments are completely understandable, we need someone MUCH better, brighter and holier to right the rat-infested, inundated ship at this late hour.

    No disrespect to Vigano (or to you, Sean), but we have been wandering in a desolate, demon-controlled land for so long that anything that looks halfway decent naturally elicits such a response.  Half a loaf looks pretty enticing to a starving man, even if it is stale, partially moldy, etc.

    I don't see much in him to object to, and what little there is will likely be gone in a year, if he stays on his current trajectory.

    The man already rejects the conciliar church, attributes the debacle of the church directly to Vatican II, and casts doubt upon the legitimacy of that council, encourages fidelity to the old sacraments, and comes within a hair’s breadth of sedevacantism by saying that since Bergoglio doesn’t want to be the Vicar of Christ, he won’t treat him as such.

    The only thing I see lacking in him is a traditional episcopal consecration (which in him is not essential, as he is not ordaining priests or consecrating bishops), and a poor decision to make a virtual appearance at a interfaith political rally.

    Other than those two items, he is batting 1.000
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    Re: +Vigano on Bergoglio’s CÖVÌD Church
    « Reply #10 on: January 17, 2021, 11:30:19 AM »
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  • I don't see much in him to object to, and what little there is will likely be gone in a year, if he stays on his current trajectory.

    He is 80.  He has seen ALL of the V2 and post-V2 abomination as an adult.  He has only JUST entered the fray in a way and to a degree that even registers. He has been a completely grown-ass-MAN for FIFTY years!!!

    What is he going to do within or after another year?  NOTHING.

    You also don't see anything in Bergoglio's "papacy" that is objectionable, at least not within the order of the law.  If everything of the V2 era has been, is and can continue to be truly consistent with the Immaculate Spouse of Jesus Christ...unless/until someone with sufficient power (always an unclear concept) DOES something...what is the point of following ANY of this?  

    At this "pace" (-maker), the Crisis in the ("conciliar") Church will get settled by 2121...woohoo!
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    Re: +Vigano on Bergoglio’s CÖVÌD Church
    « Reply #11 on: January 17, 2021, 11:35:35 AM »
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  • Other than those two items, he is batting 1.000
    OK...addendum seen after post above...so will post this and THEN reply in another, so we don't keep missing each other.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    Re: +Vigano on Bergoglio’s CÖVÌD Church
    « Reply #12 on: January 17, 2021, 11:40:54 AM »
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  • He is 80.  He has seen ALL of the V2 and post-V2 abomination as an adult.  He has only JUST entered the fray in a way and to a degree that even registers. He has been a completely grown-ass-MAN for FIFTY years!!!

    What is he going to do within or after another year?  NOTHING.

    You also don't see anything in Bergoglio's "papacy" that is objectionable, at least not within the order of the law.  If everything of the V2 era has been, is and can continue to be truly consistent with the Immaculate Spouse of Jesus Christ...unless/until someone with sufficient power (always an unclear concept) DOES something...what is the point of following ANY of this?  

    At this "pace" (-maker), the Crisis in the ("conciliar") Church will get settled by 2121...woohoo!

    “The first shall be last, and the last shall be first.”

    As for your comments regarding my position on Francis, you are just making the same old tired anti-R&R sede argument, which is not germane to the matter of +Vigano (except perhaps to the extent that it seems to imply that in your opinion, anything short of dogmatic sedevacantism is unacceptable).
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    Re: +Vigano on Bergoglio’s CÖVÌD Church
    « Reply #13 on: January 17, 2021, 11:42:06 AM »
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  • The man already rejects the conciliar church, attributes the debacle of the church directly to Vatican II, and casts doubt upon the legitimacy of that council, encourages fidelity to the old sacraments, and comes within a hair’s breadth of sedevacantism by saying that since Bergoglio doesn’t want to be the Vicar of Christ, he won’t treat him as such.

    The only thing I see lacking in him is a traditional episcopal consecration (which in him is not essential, as he is not ordaining priests or consecrating bishops), and a poor decision to make a virtual appearance at a interfaith political rally.
    Fair enough.  I have no problem granting that you know MUCH more about him and his actions than I do.  Frankly, I stopped following all the insanity for almost a decade, precisely because nothing good and meaningful EVER took place.

    I am ALL for his bashing of V2, etc.  However, I believe a Saint the likes of Pius X is required at this stage, and not at an advanced age.  

    Asses need to be KICKED, within the ecclesiastical and political (and financial, etc) worlds; octogenarians are not ideal.

    I'm sure we agree about a great many things.  However, I don't think anything short of radical, complete purification will get us out of this mess.  Godspeed.
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    Re: +Vigano on Bergoglio’s CÖVÌD Church
    « Reply #14 on: January 17, 2021, 11:44:29 AM »
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  • OK...addendum seen after post above...so will post this and THEN reply in another, so we don't keep missing each other.

    Too late: I already posted to your response before I saw your follow-up...

    I will step away for a couple hours and check things out later to see where this all went.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."