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Title: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: SeanJohnson on January 09, 2023, 11:22:00 AM
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Et adorabunt eum omnes reges terræ; omnes gentes servient ei. - Ps 71:11
Praised be Jesus Christ.

This solemn day is sanctified by three miracles: the adoration of the Magi, the changing of water into wine at the wedding at Cana, and the Baptism of Christ in the Jordan. These miraculous signs show us the divinity of Our Lord and His universal Lordship over the cosmos, over nature and over us. It is no longer only the shepherds who are called by the Angels to recognize the Verbum caro factum, but it is the whole human race, it is all creation that the voice of God himself calls to adore Him, to listen to Him, to obey Him. A Lordship that some recognize with humble Faith and that others reject out of pride.

In the Martyrology on Christmas Eve, we heard sung the announcement of the Birth of the Savior secundum carnem, placed in history with a multiplicity of precise and detailed chronological references. The Toto orbe in pace composito that the cantor solemnly pronounces shortly before raising the tone of his voice to mark the historical reality of the salvific event of Christ’s Birth refers to the triple triumph of Augustus, author and peacemaker of the Roman Empire. A human and pagan triumph, certainly; but which was intended to prepare the eternal triumph of the Rex pacificus, the immortal Emperor, the unconquered Sun. For this reason, January 6, established as a civil holiday to celebrate the human glory of Rome, was chosen by the Church to celebrate the undying glory of Christ, King of kings and Lord of lords.

In this age of apostasy, marked by wars and conflicts caused by rebellion against God, it is difficult to understand how the earthly authority of the Emperor could constitute in the plan of Providence the necessary prerequisite for the coming of the Lord. What seems to us more “normal” – so to speak – is the ferocious and ruthless response of Herod, who in his mad attempt to kill the Child King exterminated the children of Bethlehem whom we recalled a few days ago in the Liturgy. Life and death, peace and war, light and darkness, grace and damnation: we constantly have before our eyes the two great alternatives for ourselves, for our families, for civil society. And it is Christ who stands as a point of reference, as a stumbling block, asking us to make our moral choice, recognizing Him as our Life, our Peace, our Light, our everything. If not, that is, if we renounce this choice, if we wanted to declare ourselves neutral in the face of the battle fought by the angelic hosts against the infernal powers, we would still be making a choice on which our salvation and that of the whole world depends. We see it today: those who do not take the field under the banners of Christ inexorably end up being allies of His enemies, stand by watching as the innocents are killed by Herod, and before the manger refuse to adore the Lord, all in the name of a perverted concept of freedom and secularism in which the sovereign rights of God are denied or silenced.

And yet, precisely in contemplating the mysteries of this Most Holy Day, the Church shows us the need for the Epiphany, the manifestation of the divinity of Jesus Christ; a necessity for which Providence does not hesitate to move the stars, if a star can lead pagan scholars towards the light of Grace and conversion to the true God. In fact, the simple and faithful adoration of the shepherds, made up of a humble and poor interiority, was not enough: it recalls the act of faith of the individual, of each one of us, but remains incomplete for the fate of the world if it is not accompanied by the public and official adoration of those who hold authority on earth, since this authority is a reflection of the authority of God, the Supreme Legislator and Judge. As the Psalm prophesies: Et adorabunt eum omnes reges terræ; omnes gentes servient ei.

It is surprising, somehow, that it is wise men from the East who pay homage to the Child God, while the representatives of the imperial authority are absent, just as neither the king of Israel nor the High Priests appear; who also played a decisive role in trying and condemning the Lord to death. Present at the moment of death, but absent at the moment of life. Why do we not see the Roman Procurator, Herod, Annas and Caiaphas, the officials of the Sanhedrin and the scribes of the people around the manger, as we contemplate Caspar, Melchior, and Balthazar kneeling before the Child intent on offering their gifts?

The answer is evident in all its simplicity. The shepherds adored Christ with the trusting abandonment of the simple, who has nothing to offer but himself and the poor things of daily life and his humble work. The Magi adored Christ thanks to His miraculous manifestation in the course of the stars, and their human wisdom, their ability to peer into the cosmos, led them to the timeless Sun, because they too, with humility, knew how to recognize the birth of God in the world. Both were illuminated by Grace, the former through the announcement of the Angel, the latter through the signs of heaven. Instead, Herod and the High Priests, who should have known very well the Messianic prophecies preserved by Israel, could neither see nor believe, because their first concern was power. On the one hand, the temporal power, exercised under the domination of pagan Rome and forgetting that the Jєωιѕн Sovereigns were vicars of the only King of Israel, the Lord God of hosts; on the other, spiritual power, exercised in what today we would call “self-referentiality,” that is, concerned to preserve itself and keep the people in ignorance. This is confirmed by the harsh rebukes and severe warnings of the prophets, by the mouth of which the Lord reminded His priests of their duties, while they were busy lengthening the prongs of the forks with which they held part of the sacrificial flesh for themselves, or while profiting from the trades of the money changers and merchants brought into the Temple. Deaf to Grace! Deaf is Herod, who should have seen in the little Jesus the ratifying of his own authority; deaf are the High Priests, who should have recognized in Him the promised Messiah, the Desired One of all peoples. Both, significantly, had preferred to submit to the invader, rather than bow to the One who holds in His hand the fate of the world and time. Non habemus regem nisi Cæsarem.

The present situation is not very different in this regard from that time. Even today the civil and ecclesiastical authorities refuse to worship Jesus Christ, or do so only in words plotting for His killing, for fear of losing their power. Even today we see the simple and the leaders of distant nations recognizing the Saviour, and conforming their private and public lives to Him, while world leaders prefer to gather in Davos for their globalist agenda, and the prelates of the Bergoglian sect think only of hiding their scandals, propagating synodality and encouraging the most unmentionable vices. Both support each other and recognize each other's legitimacy. Both see Jesus Christ as an uncomfortable obstacle to the pursuit of their plans for power and domination. Yet, as we sing in the hymn of the Epiphany, non eripit mortalia qui regna dat cœlestia.  He who gives us heavenly kingdoms does not ravish earthly ones.

But if on the one hand the Magi, with their tribute of Faith, have been able to publicly adore the King of kings, having nothing to fear for their authority; on the other hand, the rulers who are rebellious and indocile to God, not recognizing the divine origin of the power they exercise, place themselves against His Lordship and also against their subjects, transforming wise and just government into an instrument of hateful tyranny. This is how the prophet Jeremiah expresses himself against them:

26For among my people there are wicked people who spy like lurking hunters, they set traps for men. 27Like a cage full of birds, so their houses are full of deceit; therefore, they become great and rich. 28They are fat and wicked, they go beyond the limits of evil; they do not defend justice, they do not care for the cause of the orphan, they do not do justice to the poor.  29Should I not punish these sins? Oracle of the Lord. Should I not take revenge on a people like this? 30Terrifying and horrible things take place in the land. 31The prophets foretell in the name of lies, and the priests rule at their behest; yet my people are pleased with this. What will you do when the end comes?

Listening to these words of Sacred Scripture, we wonder if they are not addressed to the powerful of this world, to the members of the globalist elite and to those who serve them out of cowardice, self-interest, and obsequious complicity. And to those who, established in authority in the Church to feed the flock entrusted to them by the Lord, abuse their power to govern at the nod of the prophets of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr, who prophesy pandemics and emergencies of which they are ruthless architects.

What will you do when the end comes?, the Lord asks. Will you create new emergencies, new crises, new pandemics, new wars with which to keep the people subjugated? Will you continue to exterminate innocent children, to render fathers and mothers sterile, to defraud the worker of his reward, to corrupt the young, to kill the sick and the elderly because they are considered useless for your own vile interests? Will you barricade yourselves in your fortresses, hoping to escape God’s wrath and your just chastisement? What will you do, servants of the Great Reset, when your masters have to flee into their lairs and hide in the bowels of the earth? Do you think you can sell yourself to a new owner as you have done so far? Poor, miserable, deluded ones. The terrible day of the Lord will come for everyone, and also for you: first with the particular Judgment, and then with the universal Judgment. If earthly justice stands idly by and watches your crimes passively because it is subservient to you, Divine Justice will instead be inexorable and terrible, so that your public sins against the Majesty of God and against the man whom He created in His image and likeness, and whom He redeemed with His own Blood, do not go unpunished. And if our poor strength fails to overcome your cօռspιʀαcιҽs, know that each one of us, every faithful one of the Holy Church, every single good soul is praying, fasting, and doing penance, asking for the intervention of the Lord, the King of the Nations, whom you refuse to recognize, adore, and serve. What will you do when the end comes?

On this day of the Epiphany, when we celebrate the public manifestation of the divine kingship of Our Lord Jesus Christ and the public tribute of the Magi to His universal and eternal Lordship, let us also renew our offering. It is a poor and miserable offering, because it comes from us who have nothing but what Providence has granted us. And yet it is a precious offering, if presented by Our Lady, Mary Most Holy, the Queen Mother who is our Advocate at the Throne of the Son. It is an infinite offering when it rises to the Majesty of the Father through the hands of the pure and holy Victim, the High Priest, the Eternal Pontiff who renews the Sacrifice of the Cross in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Let us place our penances at the foot of the altar, so that they may become the gold of kings; our prayers, that they may ascend to heaven like the incense that priests burn to God; and our fasts, so that the Holy Mass may convert them into the myrrh of sacrifice. And we ask the Child King to convert those who hold authority both in civil society and in the Church, who find themselves today having to choose whether to follow the star to Bethlehem to worship Him, or to ignore His Birth in order to avoid His will and wage war against Him.

And so may it be.

+ Carlo Maria, Archbishop
 January 6, 2023
 Epiphany of Our Lord Jesus Christ



Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Ladislaus on January 09, 2023, 12:40:51 PM
Beautiful.  Of course, perhaps this was ghost-written for him.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: SeanJohnson on January 09, 2023, 12:47:08 PM
Beautiful.  Of course, perhaps this was ghost-written for him.
...by the Jews.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Ladislaus on January 09, 2023, 12:56:53 PM
...by the Jєωs.
 
and/or Opus Dei.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Miser Peccator on January 09, 2023, 01:00:29 PM
What do Freemasons say after prayer?

"So mote it be" is a ritual phrase used by the Freemasons, in Rosicrucianism, and more recently by Neopagans, meaning "so may it be", "so it is required", or "so must it be", and may be said after the person giving the prayer says 'Amen'.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: SeanJohnson on January 09, 2023, 01:20:11 PM
What do Freemasons say after prayer?

"So mote it be" is a ritual phrase used by the Freemasons, in Rosicrucianism, and more recently by Neopagans, meaning "so may it be", "so it is required", or "so must it be", and may be said after the person giving the prayer says 'Amen'.


gαy.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Ladislaus on January 09, 2023, 01:27:19 PM
Still struggling to find a cui bono for what +Vigano is setting out to accomplish with all his obviously nefarious activity.

I haven't heard an answer yet.  Seems to me like he's out there just wrecking the Traditional movement.

Sorry, but I won't look twice at a conspiracy theory that doesn't have a compelling cui bono.

Any thoughts there, Miser?
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: 2Vermont on January 09, 2023, 01:37:52 PM
I'm not on board that he's a mason or part of a conspiracy, but I do have to wonder whether Vigano's eulogy for Ratzinger helped move Novus Ordites/indult Conciliars towards Catholic Truth or remain in the Conciliar sect. Given the attacks I've already seen (elsewhere) from those NO's/indulterers who are pro-Benedict and Vigano, I've got to think it more likely the latter.

Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: SeanJohnson on January 09, 2023, 02:01:25 PM
I'm not on board that he's a mason or part of a conspiracy, but I do have to wonder whether Vigano's eulogy for Ratzinger helped move Novus Ordites/indult Conciliars towards Catholic Truth or remain in the Conciliar sect. Given the attacks I've already seen (elsewhere) from those NO's/indulterers who are pro-Benedict and Vigano, I've got to think it more likely the latter.

Its rather like when we say someone "acted out of character."

Yes, he did it, but it represents a departure from his normal way of acting (or in this case, from his normal good and traditional doctrinal acuмen). 

Every writer has that happen at some point (even here on Cathinfo, a stalwart traddy goes off and says soemthing sentimental or even liberal).  It doesn't mean that person has gone to the left, or revealed secret liberal tendencies.  It could be explained by 1000 different causes (laziness, fatigue, strong emotion, etc.). 

None of that would suffice to recharacterize the positions attributed to such an one, because the exception does not disprove the rule, and a man is said to believe that which he most frequently teaches, not what appears as an anomaly to contradict what has been said before (and especially after) such anomalies.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Cera on January 09, 2023, 02:40:08 PM
What do Freemasons say after prayer?

"So mote it be" is a ritual phrase used by the Freemasons, in Rosicrucianism, and more recently by Neopagans, meaning "so may it be", "so it is required", or "so must it be", and may be said after the person giving the prayer says 'Amen'.

Amen is commonly used after a prayer, creed, or other formal statement. It is spoken to express solemn ratification or agreement. It is used adverbially to mean "certainly," "it is so," or "so it be."

Of course Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ/ satanists always have a counterfit.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Cera on January 09, 2023, 02:46:08 PM
...by the Jєωs.
Because this is the sort of thing Jews always say:

It is surprising, somehow, that it is wise men from the East who pay homage to the Child God, while the representatives of the imperial authority are absent, just as neither the king of Israel nor the High Priests appear; who also played a decisive role in trying and condemning the Lord to death. Present at the moment of death, but absent at the moment of life. Why do we not see the Roman Procurator, Herod, Annas and Caiaphas, the officials of the Sanhedrin and the scribes of the people around the manger, as we contemplate Caspar, Melchior, and Balthazar kneeling before the Child intent on offering their gifts?

The answer is evident in all its simplicity. The shepherds adored Christ with the trusting abandonment of the simple, who has nothing to offer but himself and the poor things of daily life and his humble work. The Magi adored Christ thanks to His miraculous manifestation in the course of the stars, and their human wisdom, their ability to peer into the cosmos, led them to the timeless Sun, because they too, with humility, knew how to recognize the birth of God in the world. Both were illuminated by Grace, the former through the announcement of the Angel, the latter through the signs of heaven. Instead, Herod and the High Priests, who should have known very well the Messianic prophecies preserved by Israel, could neither see nor believe, because their first concern was power. On the one hand, the temporal power, exercised under the domination of pagan Rome and forgetting that the Jєωιѕн Sovereigns were vicars of the only King of Israel, the Lord God of hosts; on the other, spiritual power, exercised in what today we would call “self-referentiality,” that is, concerned to preserve itself and keep the people in ignorance. This is confirmed by the harsh rebukes and severe warnings of the prophets, by the mouth of which the Lord reminded His priests of their duties, while they were busy lengthening the prongs of the forks with which they held part of the sacrificial flesh for themselves, or while profiting from the trades of the money changers and merchants brought into the Temple. Deaf to Grace! Deaf is Herod, who should have seen in the little Jesus the ratifying of his own authority; deaf are the High Priests, who should have recognized in Him the promised Messiah, the Desired One of all peoples. Both, significantly, had preferred to submit to the invader, rather than bow to the One who holds in His hand the fate of the world and time. Non habemus regem nisi Cæsarem.

The present situation is not very different in this regard from that time. Even today the civil and ecclesiastical authorities refuse to worship Jesus Christ, or do so only in words plotting for His killing, for fear of losing their power. Even today we see the simple and the leaders of distant nations recognizing the Saviour, and conforming their private and public lives to Him, while world leaders prefer to gather in Davos for their globalist agenda, and the prelates of the Bergoglian sect think only of hiding their scandals, propagating synodality and encouraging the most unmentionable vices. Both support each other and recognize each other's legitimacy. Both see Jesus Christ as an uncomfortable obstacle to the pursuit of their plans for power and domination. Yet, as we sing in the hymn of the Epiphany, non eripit mortalia qui regna dat cœlestia.

Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Miser Peccator on January 09, 2023, 10:18:16 PM
Catholics should distance themselves from using language that is common to those who practice the craft.  



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How familiar the phrase is. No Lodge is ever opened or closed, in due form, without using it. Yet how few know how old it is, much less what a deep meaning it has in it. Like so many old and lovely things, it is so near to us that we do not see it.


As far back as we can go in the annals of the Craft we find this old phrase. Its form betrays its age.


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The word MOTE is an Anglo-Saxon word, derived from an anomalous verb, MOTAN. Chaucer uses the exact phrase in the same sense in which we use it, meaning “So May It Be.” It is found in the Regius Poem, the oldest docuмent of the Craft, just as we use it today.
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As everyone knows, it is the Masonic form of the ancient AMEN which echoes through the ages, gathering meaning and music as it goes until it is one of the richest and most haunting of words.

At first only a sign of assent, on the part either of an individual or of an assembly, to words of prayer or praise, it has become to stand as a sentinel at the gateway of silence.


When we have uttered all that we can utter, and our poor words seem like ripples on the bosom of the unspoken, somehow this familiar phrase gathers up all that is left – our dumb yearnings, our deepest longings – and bears them aloft to One who understands.


In some strange way it seems to speak for us into the very ear of God the things for which words were never made.


So, naturally, it has a place of honor among us. At the marriage Altar it speaks its blessing as young love walks toward the bliss or sorrow of hidden years.


It stands beside the cradle when we dedicate our little ones to the Holy life, mingling its benediction with our vows. At the grave side it utters its sad response to the shadowy AMEN which death pronounces over our friends.


When, in our turn, we see the end of the road, and would make a last will and testament, leaving our earnings and savings to those whom we love, the old legal phrase asks us to repeat after it: “In The Name Of God, AMEN.” And with us, as with Gerontius in his Dream, the last word we hear when the voices of earth grow faint and the silence of God covers us, is the old AMEN, So Mote It Be.


How impressively it echoes through the Book of Holy Law. We hear it in the Psalms, as chorus answers to chorus, where it is sometimes reduplicated for emphasis. In the talks of Jesus with his friends it has a striking use, hidden in the English version.


The oft-repeated phrase, “Verily, Verily I Say Unto You,” if rightly translated means, AMEN, AMEN, I say unto you.” Later, in the Epistles of Paul, the word AMEN becomes the name of Christ, who is the AMEN of God to the faith of man.


So, too, in the Lodge, at opening, at closing, and in the hour of initiation. No Mason ever enters upon any great or important undertaking without invoking the aid of Deity. And he ends his prayer with the old phrase, “So Mote It Be.” Which is another way of saying: “The Will Of God Be Done.” Or, whatever be the answer of God to his prayer: “So Be It – because it is wise and right.
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What, then, is the meaning of this old phrase, so interwoven with all our Masonic lore, simple, tender, haunting? It has two meanings for us everywhere, in the Church, or in the Lodge.

First, it is assent of man to the way and Will Of God; assent to His Commands; assent to His Providence, even when a tender, terrible stroke of death takes from us one much loved and leaves us forlorn.
Still, somehow, we must say:” So it is; so be it. He is a wise man, a brave man; who, baffled by the woes of life, when disaster follows fast and follows faster, can nevertheless accept his lot as a part of the Will of God and say, though it may almost choke him to say it:


“So Mote It Be.” It is not blind submission, nor dumb resignation, but a wise reconciliation to the Will of the Eternal.


The other meaning of the phrase is even more wonderful; it is the assent of God to the aspiration of man. Man can bear so much – anything, perhaps – if he feels that God knows, cares and feels for him and with him.


If God says Amen, So it is, to our faith and hope and love; it links our perplexed meanings, and helps us to see, however dimly, or in a glass darkly, that there is a wise and good purpose in life, despite its sorrow and suffering, and that we are not at the mercy of Fate or the whim of Chance.


Does God speak to man, confirming his faith and hope? If so, how? Indeed yes! God is not the great I Was, but the great I Am, and He is neither deaf nor dumb. In Him we live and move and have our being – He Speaks to us in nature, in the moral law, and in our own hearts, if we have ears to hear. But He speaks most clearly in the Book of Holy Law which lies open upon our Alter.


Nor is that all. Some of us hold that the Word Of God “Became Flesh and Dwelt Among Us, Full Of Grace and Truth,” in a life the loveliest ever lived among men, showing us what life is, what it means, and to what fine issues it ascends when we do the Will of God on earth as it is done in Heaven, No one of us but grows wistful when he thinks of the life of Jesus, however far we fall below it.


Today men are asking the question: Does it do any good to pray? The man who actually prays does not ask such a question. As well ask if it does a bird any good to sing, or a flower to bloom? Prayer is natural and instinctive in man. We are made so. Man is made for prayer, as sparks ascending seek the sun. He would not need religious faith if the objects of it did not exist.


Are prayers ever answered? Yes, always, as Emerson taught us long ago. Who rises from prayer a better man, his prayer is answered – and that is as far as we need to go.


The deepest desire, the ruling motive of a man, is his actual prayer, and it shapes his life after its form and color. In this sense all prayer is answered, and that is why we ought to be careful what we pray for – because in the end we always get it.


What, then is the good of prayer? It makes us repose on the unknown with hope; it makes us ready for life. It is a recognition of laws and the thread of our conjunction with them.


It is not the purpose of prayer to beg or make God do what we want done. Its purpose is to bring us to do the Will of God, which is greater and wiser than our will. It is not to use God, but to be used by Him in the service of His plan.


Can man by prayer change the Will of God? No, and Yes. True prayer does not wish or seek to change the larger Will of God, which involves in its sweep and scope the duty and destiny of humanity.


But it can and does change the Will of God concerning us, because it changes our will and attitude towards Him, which is the vital thing in prayer for us.


For example, if a man living a wicked life, we know what the Will of God will be for him. All evil ways have been often tried, and we know what the end is, just as we know the answer to a problem in geometry.
But if a man who is living wickedly changes his way of living and his inner attitude, he changes the Will of God – if not His Will, at least His Intention. That is, he attains what even the Divine Will could not give him and do for him unless it had been effected by His Will and Prayer.
The place of Prayer in Masonry is not perfunctory. It is not a mere matter of form and rote. It is vital and profound. As a man enters the Lodge as an initiate, prayer is offered for him, to God, in whom he puts his trust.


Later, in a crisis of his initiation, he must pray for himself, orally or mentally as his heart may elect. It is not just a ceremony; it is basic in the faith and spirit of Masonry.


Still later, in a scene which no Mason ever forgets, when the shadow is darkest, and the most precious thing a Mason can desire or seek seems lost, in the perplexity and despair of the Lodge, a prayer is offered.


As recorded in our Monitors, it is a mosaic of Bible words, in which the grim facts of life and death are set forth in stark reality, and appeal is made to the pity and light of God.


It is truly a great prayer, to join in which is to place ourselves in the very hands of God, as all must do in the end, trust His Will and way, following where no path is into the soft and fascinating darkness which men call death.


And the response of the Lodge to that prayer, as to all others offered at its Altar, is the old, challenging phrase, “So Mote It Be!”
Brother, do not be ashamed to pray, as you are taught in the Lodge and the Church. It is a part of the sweetness and sanity of life, refreshing the soul and making clear the mind.


There is more wisdom in a whispered prayer than in all the libraries of the world. It is not our business to instruct God. He knows what things we have need for before we ask him. He does not need our prayer, but we do – if only to make us acquainted with the best Friend we have.
The greatest of all teachers of the soul left us a little liturgy called the Lord’s Prayer. He told us to use it each for himself, in the closet when the door is shut and the din and hum and litter of the world is outside. Try it Brother; it will sweeten life, make its load lighter, its joy brighter, and the way of duty plainer.


Two tiny prayers have floated down to us from ages agone, which are worth remembering; one by a great Saint, the other by two brothers.
“Grant Me, Lord, ardently to desire, wisely to study, rightly to understand and perfectly to fulfill that which pleaseth Thee.” And the second is after the manner: “May two brothers enjoy and serve Thee together, and so live today that we may be worthy to live tomorrow.”
“SO MOTE IT BE”

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Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Ladislaus on January 09, 2023, 10:21:44 PM
I'm not on board that he's a mason or part of a conspiracy, but I do have to wonder whether Vigano's eulogy for Ratzinger helped move Novus Ordites/indult Conciliars towards Catholic Truth or remain in the Conciliar sect. Given the attacks I've already seen (elsewhere) from those NO's/indulterers who are pro-Benedict and Vigano, I've got to think it more likely the latter.

I don't think it had any effect either way.  Those who are not kindly disposed toward Ratzinger saw his criticism there, and I imagine that most people simply read the entire thing as his trying to say something kind about a deceased individual.  This was not a particularly theological piece.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Ladislaus on January 09, 2023, 10:26:07 PM
Instead of spamming in more walls of irrelevant nonsense, I'm still waiting for a credible explanation of what this Illuminati / Masonic / Jєωis / Opus Dei agent is hoping to accomplish by criticizing Vatican II as unsalvageable and needing to be abolished.

Until you can provide one, you can stop posting.

Had he, say, criticized V2, won the confidence of Trad Catholics, and then started condoning or promoting the jab, you'd have a credible cui bono.  Or if he had decided to set up his own Trad group to rival others.  Of if he had written pieces condemning sedevacantism.  Or if he had written pieces promoting Bennyvacantism.  But he really hasn't touched upon those subjects.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Ladislaus on January 09, 2023, 10:40:29 PM
gαy.

Indeed.  And so may it be could also be a traslation of the famous "Deus vult" and is the equivalent of Amen.  In Masonic Ritual it's used as a response to Amen, where someone says some kind of invocation, followed by Amen, and response to the original Amen is "So mote it be."  It's like when a Baptism minister says Amen, and then the congregation responds with "Amen.  Amen".  +Vigano is either concluding with a "Deus vult." or an Amen, or some smilar phrase in Italian, and there is nothing inherently Masonic about the phrase, unless you believe that Our Lord was a Mason also.  Of course, Our Lord was the only one who ever ... or Who has the authority ... to BEGIN His teaching with "Amen".

My guess is that +Vigano simply had "Amen" and someover-zealous translator decided to render it as "So be it."

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The Greek Old Testament usually translates amen as “so be it”; in the English Bible it has frequently been rendered as “verily,” or “truly.”

In its earliest use in the Bible, the amen occurred initially and referred back to the words of another speaker with whom there was agreement. It usually introduced an affirmative statement. For emphasis, as in solemn oaths, the amen was sometimes repeated. The use of the initial amen, single or double in form, to introduce solemn statements of Jesus in the Gospels (52 times in the Synoptic Gospels—Matthew, Mark, and Luke—and 25 times in the Gospel According to John) had no parallel in Jєωιѕн practice. Such amens expressed the certainty and truthfulness of the statement that followed.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Meg on January 10, 2023, 05:36:32 AM
Though Miser often over-reacts to, well, a lot of things, I do find it odd that +Vigano would use this phrase (if it can be called that) to end his communication with. Hopefully it is a mistranslation. In doing a google search, I can't find that Catholics use this phrase. 
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: SeanJohnson on January 10, 2023, 06:15:24 AM
Though Miser often over-reacts to, well, a lot of things, I do find it odd that +Vigano would use this phrase (if it can be called that) to end his communication with. Hopefully it is a mistranslation. In doing a google search, I can't find that Catholics use this phrase.

Morons don’t realize he never used the word “mote” that triggered Miser.

FOR THEM, secret Opus Dei Jєω Chabad Kabbala Masonic NWO Rabbinic тαℓмυdic  Archbishop infiltrators always out themselves by NOT WUITE using Masonic phrases like Amen (ie., so be it; so may it be).

The number of dipshits on this forum is astounding (and they’re so prevalent that they tend to be the more popular)!
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Meg on January 10, 2023, 06:42:50 AM
Morons don’t realize he never used the word “mote” that triggered Miser.

FOR THEM, secret Opus Dei Jєω Chabad Kabbala Masonic NWO Rabbinic тαℓмυdic  Archbishop infiltrators always out themselves by NOT WUITE using Masonic phrases like Amen (ie., so be it; so may it be).

The number of dipshits on this forum is astounding (and they’re so prevalent that they tend to be the more popular)!

I should have been more clear in what I was trying to say.

I do realize that +Vigano didn't write..."so mote it be," as Miser referred to.

He wrote instead, according to your OP: "And so may it be" at the end of his written communication. I do find it odd that he would use "And so may it be" at the end of his communication. Is this a typical way for a bishop to end a written communication, do you know? It might be.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: SeanJohnson on January 10, 2023, 06:48:06 AM
I should have been more clear in what I was trying to say.

I do realize that +Vigano didn't write..."so mote it be," as Miser referred to.

He wrote instead, according to your OP: "And so may it be" at the end of his written communication. I do find it odd that he would use "And so may it be" at the end of his communication. Is this a typical way for a bishop to end a written communication, do you know? It might be.

My comment was not directed to you.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Ladislaus on January 10, 2023, 06:57:32 AM
Though Miser often over-reacts to, well, a lot of things, I do find it odd that +Vigano would use this phrase (if it can be called that) to end his communication with. Hopefully it is a mistranslation. In doing a google search, I can't find that Catholics use this phrase.

This phrase simply means "Amen", or could also be a traslation of "Deus vult", and people have to recall that +Vigano is Italian, so that it's likely some Italian expression, or could just be an over-zealous translator over-translating "Amen" (which basically means the same thing, so be it).  Or it could even be a translation of "Fiat" (echoing Our Lady's "Fiat").  Masons also use "Amen", so now if someone uses "Amen" he's a suspected Mason?

Still not a single convincing explanation for what "harm" +Vigano is doing or what their purpose might be to roll out a +Vigano.  Really, the biggest effect he's had is to bring some conservative Novus Ordo types to the right, people who formerly were afraid of criticizing Vatican II or Bergoglio.  He's swung to the right of the neo-SSPX.  He's not "converting" any sedevacantists or Traditional Catholics, nor ordaining dubious priests.  He hasn't set up some kind of rival seminary.  He hasn't even gone after sedevacantists.  If I had see him writing some attack against sedevacantists, I might even find the assertion plausible that he was being set up as some kind of "gatekeeper".  But, if anything, a lot of what he rights could be considered a "gateway drug" to sedevacantism.  He regulalry refers to a Bergoglian sect (vs. the Catholic Church), and has made similar comments about the entire Conciliar Church before Vatican II.  I have not seen a stronger or more articulate condemnation of Vatican II and the NOM from Archbishop Lefebvre.

I have the same issue with those who claim that +Lefebvre was "controlled opposition".  Nonsense.  Had +Lefebvre not been around, the Traditional movement wouldn't be 1% of its current size.  So what did he accomplish for the opposition?
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Meg on January 10, 2023, 07:09:41 AM
This phrase simply means "Amen", or could also be a traslation of "Deus vult", and people have to recall that +Vigano is Italian, so that it's likely some Italian expression, or could just be an over-zealous translator over-translating "Amen" (which basically means the same thing, so be it).  Or it could even be a translation of "Fiat" (echoing Our Lady's "Fiat").  Masons also use "Amen", so now if someone uses "Amen" he's a suspected Mason?

Still not a single convincing explanation for what "harm" +Vigano is doing or what their purpose might be to roll out a +Vigano.  Really, the biggest effect he's had is to bring some conservative Novus Ordo types to the right, people who formerly were afraid of criticizing Vatican II or Bergoglio.  He's swung to the right of the neo-SSPX.  He's not "converting" any sedevacantists or Traditional Catholics, nor ordaining dubious priests.  He hasn't set up some kind of rival seminary.  He hasn't even gone after sedevacantists.  If I had see him writing some attack against sedevacantists, I might even find the assertion plausible that he was being set up as some kind of "gatekeeper".  But, if anything, a lot of what he rights could be considered a "gateway drug" to sedevacantism.  He regulalry refers to a Bergoglian sect (vs. the Catholic Church), and has made similar comments about the entire Conciliar Church before Vatican II.  I have not seen a stronger or more articulate condemnation of Vatican II and the NOM from Archbishop Lefebvre.

I have the same issue with those who claim that +Lefebvre was "controlled opposition".  Nonsense.  Had +Lefebvre not been around, the Traditional movement wouldn't be 1% of its current size.  So what did he accomplish for the opposition?

I'm not asking about what the words might mean or could mean.

I was just wondering if this was a typical way for a bishop to end a communication. I'm referring to the EXACT words used in the OP of this thread. I don't recall ever seeing it used by +ABL, for example. It doesn't mean that I think +Vigano is controlled opposition. So far, my question has not been answered. So I assume that it's not a typical way to end a communication. That's fine.

BTW, Archbishop Lefebvre wrote an 84-page book on a refutation of the Vll Council. It's called, "I Accuse the Council."
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Miser Peccator on January 11, 2023, 06:07:38 PM
I knew I had heard the phrase before so I Googled it.

Try it.

"So it may be"

It pulls up dozens of Freemason sites claiming that this is the literal meaning of their special phrase they use

in closing or when signing off.

No Catholic sites or references come up.

It even pulls up references from Wiccan sites and Crowley references.



Considering the 100's of phrases Catholics use when signing off including

Saint mottos
Ejaculatory/aspiration prayers
One of the many titles of Our Lord and Our Lady with "pray for us"
Short verses from Sacred Scripture

with so much to choose from, why use a phrase that members of the Brotherhood worldwide recognize as

uniquely their own?



It's similar to what I wrote in another thread:




Why would Vigano reference Heliocentrism which the Church condemned?  (Cassini has done thorough research on this--see his threads for more)

Why would Vigano use such a loaded term as Sol Invictus?

Freemasons and those who practice Kabbalah

worship the sun god

Sol Invictus.

Luciferians celebrate Sol Invictus Day.

Freemasons even name lodges after him:



(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1109599044316344321/iW5cWs_A_x96.png)

 (https://twitter.com/mlsarGrandLodge)
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Grand Lodge of Royal Art Study

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Grand Lodge: the bilingual lodge Sol Invictus, No 13 has two new members.
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And wish each other "Happy Sol Invictus Day"



THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST
nebula.wsimg.com
(https://nebula.wsimg.com/f4eaf5283460e5247efd3555e79e0188?AccessKeyId=D40106E1331C24ABD7C3&disposition=0&alloworigin=1) (https://nebula.wsimg.com/f4eaf5283460e5247efd3555e79e0188?AccessKeyId=D40106E1331C24ABD7C3&disposition=0&alloworigin=1)In Luciferian circles,. Lucifer is the Sol Invictus, in direct competition to the Son of GOD, Jesus. Christ. ~The Church Age. BABYLONIA. MEDO-PERSIA. GRECIA.


Wishing Lucifer/Sol Invictus a happy Birthday on this ... - Reddit
Dec 21, 2021 — The world has been covered in darkness but starting today, we will see the return of Sol Invictus, Lucifer, the Bringer of Light, ...
How to celebrate Sol Invictus? : r/SatanicTemple_Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/SatanicTemple_Reddit/comments/qji5bo/how_to_celebrate_sol_invictus/)
Oct 31, 2021
Sol invictus? : r/SatanicTemple_Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/SatanicTemple_Reddit/comments/k46xqb/sol_invictus/)
Nov 30, 2020
Lucifer and Sol Invictus : r/LuciferianWitchcraft - Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/LuciferianWitchcraft/comments/e2bhku/lucifer_and_sol_invictus/)
Nov 27, 2019
Happy Sol Invictus! : r/Satan - Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/Satan/comments/rn2lb8/happy_sol_invictus/)
Dec 23, 2021
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https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/msgr-vigano's-shotgun-blast/




There are so many beautiful Catholic titles for Our Lord Jesus Christ.

Why use a term Freemasons, Rosicrucians, Luciferians and Satanists worldwide recognize as their own?

Practitioners of the occult see the Sol Invictus as Christ:


(https://i.imgur.com/0Oz3BDq.jpg)



https://pixels.com/featured/2-sol-invictus-mysteries-of-the-christos-daniel-gautier.html

They are into Mithrayic mysteries:

https://www.rosicrucian.org/rosicrucian-digest-mithraic-mysteries


I couldn't find any saints or popes who refer to Jesus as the Sol Invictus.


I don't know why Vigano says these things.  I don't know his motivations.  Perhaps it's just a coincidence?

Whatever his motivations may be, we certainly don't need this kind of ambiguity.



Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Incredulous on January 11, 2023, 08:09:12 PM
What do Freemasons say after prayer?

"So mote it be" is a ritual phrase used by the Freemasons, in Rosicrucianism, and more recently by Neopagans, meaning "so may it be", "so it is required", or "so must it be", and may be said after the person giving the prayer says 'Amen'.



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Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Incredulous on January 11, 2023, 08:18:53 PM
gαy.

Sean's not gαy....    is he ? :popcorn:


Anyway, listen Sean, we want to thank you for posting all the Vigano stuff, cause we're too busy to stay on top of it.

But you give us such a good sources of information to dissect and examine.

I don't care if they say you be gαy... you da man Sean Johnson, who adds vitality to the SSPX Resistance show.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on January 11, 2023, 08:27:33 PM
Miser, you are right about this.  Free masonry is the biggest problem. 

Fɾҽe. Masonry is satanic head games. There will never be any justice either because they all cover up crimes for one another. 
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: SeanJohnson on January 11, 2023, 09:07:30 PM
Sean's not gαy....    is he ? :popcorn:


Anyway, listen Sean, we want to thank you for posting all the Vigano stuff, cause we're too busy to stay on top of it.

But you give us such a good sources of information to dissect and examine.

I don't care if they say you be gαy... you da man Sean Johnson, who adds vitality to the SSPX Resistance show.


gαy.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Ladislaus on January 11, 2023, 10:47:32 PM

But you give us such a good sources of information to dissect and examine.

Dissect?  Examine?  There isn't anything even approaching a rational thought in most of your "analyses".
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Confiteor Deo on January 12, 2023, 04:10:20 AM
The italian term for So May it Be is "E Cosi Sia" as you can see at in the Italian version of the Epiphany sermon 

https://www.brigataperladifesadellovvio.com/blog/vidimus-stellam-ejus-in-oriente-omelia-dell-arcivescovo-carlo-maria-vigano-nell-epifania-di-nostro-signore-gesu-cristo

A search for the terms "E Cosi Sia" massoneria turned this up. 

http://www.heredom1224.it/la-libera-muratoria/i-doveri-di-un-libero-muratore-1723.html

E Cosi Sia is at the bottom of this masonic text. 
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: 2Vermont on January 12, 2023, 07:24:02 AM
The italian term for So May it Be is "E Cosi Sia" as you can see at in the Italian version of the Epiphany sermon

https://www.brigataperladifesadellovvio.com/blog/vidimus-stellam-ejus-in-oriente-omelia-dell-arcivescovo-carlo-maria-vigano-nell-epifania-di-nostro-signore-gesu-cristo

A search for the terms "E Cosi Sia" massoneria turned this up.

http://www.heredom1224.it/la-libera-muratoria/i-doveri-di-un-libero-muratore-1723.html

E Cosi Sia is at the bottom of this masonic text.
Interesting.  Has Vigano always signed his writings this way? Is this relatively new for him?  I don't think anyone pointed this out before this.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Meg on January 12, 2023, 08:34:03 AM
Why would Vigano reference Heliocentrism which the Church condemned?  (Cassini has done thorough research on this--see his threads for more)

Why would Vigano use such a loaded term as Sol Invictus?

Freemasons and those who practice Kabbalah

worship the sun god

Sol Invictus.

Luciferians celebrate Sol Invictus Day.

Freemasons even name lodges after him:



(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1109599044316344321/iW5cWs_A_x96.png)

 (https://twitter.com/mlsarGrandLodge)
 (https://twitter.com/mlsarGrandLodge)
 (https://twitter.com/mlsarGrandLodge)
Grand Lodge of Royal Art Study

 (https://twitter.com/mlsarGrandLodge)@mlsarGrandLodge

Grand Lodge: the bilingual lodge Sol Invictus, No 13 has two new members.
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(https://i.imgur.com/qVxnc6i.jpg)

https://twitter.com/mlsargrandlodge/status/1057191457868693506 (https://twitter.com/mlsargrandlodge/status/1057191457868693506)

And wish each other "Happy Sol Invictus Day"



THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST
nebula.wsimg.com
(https://nebula.wsimg.com/f4eaf5283460e5247efd3555e79e0188?AccessKeyId=D40106E1331C24ABD7C3&disposition=0&alloworigin=1) (https://nebula.wsimg.com/f4eaf5283460e5247efd3555e79e0188?AccessKeyId=D40106E1331C24ABD7C3&disposition=0&alloworigin=1)In Luciferian circles,. Lucifer is the Sol Invictus, in direct competition to the Son of GOD, Jesus. Christ. ~The Church Age. BABYLONIA. MEDO-PERSIA. GRECIA.


Wishing Lucifer/Sol Invictus a happy Birthday on this ... - Reddit
Dec 21, 2021 — The world has been covered in darkness but starting today, we will see the return of Sol Invictus, Lucifer, the Bringer of Light, ...
How to celebrate Sol Invictus? : r/SatanicTemple_Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/SatanicTemple_Reddit/comments/qji5bo/how_to_celebrate_sol_invictus/)
Oct 31, 2021
Sol invictus? : r/SatanicTemple_Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/SatanicTemple_Reddit/comments/k46xqb/sol_invictus/)
Nov 30, 2020
Lucifer and Sol Invictus : r/LuciferianWitchcraft - Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/LuciferianWitchcraft/comments/e2bhku/lucifer_and_sol_invictus/)
Nov 27, 2019
Happy Sol Invictus! : r/Satan - Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/Satan/comments/rn2lb8/happy_sol_invictus/)
Dec 23, 2021
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https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/msgr-vigano's-shotgun-blast/




There are so many beautiful Catholic titles for Our Lord Jesus Christ.

Why use a term Freemasons, Rosicrucians, Luciferians and Satanists worldwide recognize as their own?

Practitioners of the occult see the Sol Invictus as Christ:


(https://i.imgur.com/0Oz3BDq.jpg)



https://pixels.com/featured/2-sol-invictus-mysteries-of-the-christos-daniel-gautier.html

They are into Mithrayic mysteries:

https://www.rosicrucian.org/rosicrucian-digest-mithraic-mysteries


I couldn't find any saints or popes who refer to Jesus as the Sol Invictus.


I don't know why Vigano says these things.  I don't know his motivations.  Perhaps it's just a coincidence?

Whatever his motivations may be, we certainly don't need this kind of ambiguity.

It is quite strange that +Vigano would use the words...."the unconquered sun," to describe Our Lord. I tried to find (google search) any traditional Catholic use of this, and came up with nothing. But maybe someone else can come up with a verifiable Catholic interpretation. 

In the link you posted, +Vigano said this..."We must see in the sun, the unconquered sun, Our lord Jesus Christ, center of the cosmos created by him." 

For those who are interested, this quote of +Vigano is located in the 10th paragraph down in the article. The quote is associated with the miracle of the sun at Fatima:

 Msgr. Vigano's Shotgun Blast - page 1 - Fighting Errors in the Modern World - Catholic Info (cathinfo.com) (https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/msgr-vigano's-shotgun-blast/)
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: SeanJohnson on January 12, 2023, 09:59:31 AM
It is quite strange that +Vigano would use the words...."the unconquered sun," to describe Our Lord. I tried to find (google search) any traditional Catholic use of this, and came up with nothing. But maybe someone else can come up with a verifiable Catholic interpretation.

In the link you posted, +Vigano said this..."We must see in the sun, the unconquered sun, Our lord Jesus Christ, center of the cosmos created by him."

For those who are interested, this quote of +Vigano is located in the 10th paragraph down in the article. The quote is associated with the miracle of the sun at Fatima:

 Msgr. Vigano's Shotgun Blast - page 1 - Fighting Errors in the Modern World - Catholic Info (cathinfo.com) (https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/msgr-vigano's-shotgun-blast/)

I bet Fatima is an Opus Dei Chabad Judei pretzel Kabbalah Zionist тαℓмυdic rabbinical NWO schlomo kosher pickle communist Putini disinformation campaign…(let me take a drink of water…) run by gnostic ʝʊdɛօ Masonic αѕнкenαzι goat herding trilateral infiltrating shyster Sun-worshiping Shylocks.

:facepalm:
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Ladislaus on January 12, 2023, 10:39:45 AM
Christ as Sol Invictus Mosaic at the Vatican --
(https://diglib.library.vanderbilt.edu/cdri/jpeg/WK_ChristAsSol.jpg)

Here's a bit of a commentary about it --
https://www.ethikapolitika.org/2017/04/17/christ-sol-invictus-way-christian-epistemological-crisis

During Vigil Masses, the rising sun was always looked up on by early Christians as a symbol of Our Lord, and the rising sun the Light of Christ enlightening the world.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Donachie on January 12, 2023, 11:45:54 AM
Freebird? Lynyrd Skynyrd epiphany and the three wise men? A question of substance et per aliam viam.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Meg on January 12, 2023, 11:52:17 AM
Christ as Sol Invictus Mosaic at the Vatican --
(https://diglib.library.vanderbilt.edu/cdri/jpeg/WK_ChristAsSol.jpg)

Here's a bit of a commentary about it --
https://www.ethikapolitika.org/2017/04/17/christ-sol-invictus-way-christian-epistemological-crisis

During Vigil Masses, the rising sun was always looked up on by early Christians as a symbol of Our Lord, and the rising sun the Light of Christ enlightening the world.


Thanks, Ladislaus. That does help to put it into perspective. Though it doesn't explain why a Catholic bishop would be referring to it many, many centuries later.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Donachie on January 12, 2023, 11:54:43 AM
Nancy Peℓσѕι, Chuck Schumer, Bill Gates, Biden and hαɾɾιs ticket, and Dr. Fauci can't change. Trump can't really change either ... Steve Bannon's going to change?

Between Bannon and Vigano, what's going to change? Sol Invictus?


Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Donachie on January 12, 2023, 12:00:32 PM
The Hotel California?
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: 2Vermont on January 12, 2023, 12:08:40 PM
Interesting.  Has Vigano always signed his writings this way? Is this relatively new for him?  I don't think anyone pointed this out before this.
OK, so stick with me folks.  I have my tin foil hat firmly planted. 

I did a little research/investigating into prior writings by Vigano.  He used this ending as of 12/17, but I do not see it prior to that.  You might also recall that he was silent for weeks until that communique.

Coincidence? Maybe someone can double check my findings, but this seems very strange to me.

Remember this thread:

Has +Vigano Been Eerily Quiet Lately? - page 1 - SSPX Resistance News - Catholic Info (cathinfo.com) (https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/has-vigano-been-eerily-quiet-lately/)

Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Donachie on January 12, 2023, 12:12:36 PM
Just because guests can't check out of the Hotel California, and Freebird can't change, doesn't mean they can't keep going around in circles.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Cera on January 12, 2023, 03:39:03 PM
+Vigano said this..."We must see in the sun, the unconquered sun, Our lord Jesus Christ, center of the cosmos created by him."
I found this:

The Festival of the Unconquered Sun
Fr. Thomas Ryan, CSP (https://catholicexchange.com/author/fr-thomasryancsp/)

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,and the Word was God… In him was life, and the life was the light of all people. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not overcome it.” (John 1:1,4,5)

That theme of light in the darkness is at the heart not only of the feast of the nativity of Jesus–but of the determination of the date as well. The primitive church seems to have had little interest in the date or circuмstances of Jesus’ birth. The community’s expectation of an immediate consummation of history and a final coming of Christ took priority.
They celebrated the mystery of Christ’s resurrection weekly in their Eucharistic gathering and annually in the Triduum or Three Great Days of Holy Week. But eventually, the church’s desire to live out liturgically the entire Christ mystery led to the Nativity festival.

We do not know the actual date of Christ’s birth. It was not recorded in the gospels, nor is there any early tradition to identify it. The earliest record is of a Nativity festival in Rome in 336. Why did they chose December 25 as the date?  Theories are based on three tendencies of the early Christians: a respect for symbolism; a tendency to borrow from the world around them, both natural and cultural; and a desire to offset the influence of pagan festivals.

There was at the time a pagan sun cult—Mithraism—popular in the Roman Empire. Devotees of Mithra, a Persian deity, celebrated the birthday of their sun god with a festival called Solus Invicti (Latin: the unconquered sun) at the winter solstice. The cult of the sun god, proclaimed as the principal divine patron of the Roman Empire by Emperor Aurelian in 274, became a threat to Christianity.

One theory is that the natural symbolism of the sun overcoming the darkness was not lost upon the Christians. The gospel of John speaks of Jesus as a light for all people, “a light that shines in the darkness and the darkness did not overcome it.”

Christians in the northern hemisphere could not help but note that each year, beginning with the fall equinox, the darkness began to grow as the nights lengthened and the days shortened. But at the winter solstice, the light of day began once again to conquer the darkness of night.

In the calendar in use at the time, the Julian calendar, the winter solstice occurred on December 25. The adoption  of this day for the birthday of Jesus would have challenged people to turn from the adoration of the material sun to the adoration of the “sun of justice,” Christ the Lord, the light of all nations.  And thus did December 25 become the popular date for Christmas.
It was never intended to be the literal memorial anniversary of a historical event, but rather a liturgical observance of a saving event.When the emperor Constantine himself became Christian, his Edict of Milan in 313 provided protection and support for the church community which already had in place its Nativity date of December 25. The rest, as they say, is history.
If there is any time of the year that we might call a time of lights, it is surely now. Lights on shrubs, trees, railings and houses cause us to “oohh” and “aahh” and warm our hearts. If seen aright, they are but faint reminders of the divine person who came into the darkness of our world to dwell among us as one of us.

As the evangelist John writes, “In him was life” and “from his fullness we have all received.”  Through him, we become children of God. Through this birth we ourselves are rebirthed into divine life itself. Through the light of the Word made flesh, God is present to us in a whole new way.
That is the meaning behind all the lights and the gifts and the gatherings. Celebrate it with a joyful heart!

https://catholicexchange.com/the-festival-of-the-unconquered-sun/
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Donachie on January 12, 2023, 04:02:12 PM
Accidentaly, in a weird YouTube nutshell, does this capture a little the Herodian ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic atmosphere in contrast to Epiphany?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn8Lt5krM_M
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: 2Vermont on January 12, 2023, 08:18:37 PM
OK, so stick with me folks.  I have my tin foil hat firmly planted. 

I did a little research/investigating into prior writings by Vigano.  He used this ending as of 12/17, but I do not see it prior to that.  You might also recall that he was silent for weeks until that communique.

Coincidence? Maybe someone can double check my findings, but this seems very strange to me.

Remember this thread:

Has +Vigano Been Eerily Quiet Lately? - page 1 - SSPX Resistance News - Catholic Info (cathinfo.com) (https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/has-vigano-been-eerily-quiet-lately/)
Anyone else check this out?  I'm really wondering whether the OP was actually written by him (as well as anything after 11/22).
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Miser Peccator on January 12, 2023, 08:29:34 PM
I bet Fatima is an Opus Dei Chabad Judei pretzel Kabbalah Zionist тαℓмυdic rabbinical NWO schlomo kosher pickle communist Putini disinformation campaign…(let me take a drink of water…) run by gnostic ʝʊdɛօ Masonic αѕнкenαzι goat herding trilateral infiltrating shyster Sun-worshiping Shylocks.

:facepalm:


Take a breath, Dude.  relax

It's like Mexican food---same ingredients just a different presentation.

There is only one conspiracy.

Bring the whole world into a One World Religion under Lucifer.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Miser Peccator on January 12, 2023, 08:40:05 PM
I found this:

The Festival of the Unconquered Sun
Fr. Thomas Ryan, CSP (https://catholicexchange.com/author/fr-thomasryancsp/)

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,and the Word was God… In him was life, and the life was the light of all people. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not overcome it.” (John 1:1,4,5)

That theme of light in the darkness is at the heart not only of the feast of the nativity of Jesus–but of the determination of the date as well. The primitive church seems to have had little interest in the date or circuмstances of Jesus’ birth. The community’s expectation of an immediate consummation of history and a final coming of Christ took priority.
They celebrated the mystery of Christ’s resurrection weekly in their Eucharistic gathering and annually in the Triduum or Three Great Days of Holy Week. But eventually, the church’s desire to live out liturgically the entire Christ mystery led to the Nativity festival.

We do not know the actual date of Christ’s birth. It was not recorded in the gospels, nor is there any early tradition to identify it. The earliest record is of a Nativity festival in Rome in 336. Why did they chose December 25 as the date?  Theories are based on three tendencies of the early Christians: a respect for symbolism; a tendency to borrow from the world around them, both natural and cultural; and a desire to offset the influence of pagan festivals.

There was at the time a pagan sun cult—Mithraism—popular in the Roman Empire. Devotees of Mithra, a Persian deity, celebrated the birthday of their sun god with a festival called Solus Invicti (Latin: the unconquered sun) at the winter solstice. The cult of the sun god, proclaimed as the principal divine patron of the Roman Empire by Emperor Aurelian in 274, became a threat to Christianity.

One theory is that the natural symbolism of the sun overcoming the darkness was not lost upon the Christians. The gospel of John speaks of Jesus as a light for all people, “a light that shines in the darkness and the darkness did not overcome it.”

Christians in the northern hemisphere could not help but note that each year, beginning with the fall equinox, the darkness began to grow as the nights lengthened and the days shortened. But at the winter solstice, the light of day began once again to conquer the darkness of night.

In the calendar in use at the time, the Julian calendar, the winter solstice occurred on December 25. The adoption  of this day for the birthday of Jesus would have challenged people to turn from the adoration of the material sun to the adoration of the “sun of justice,” Christ the Lord, the light of all nations.  And thus did December 25 become the popular date for Christmas.
It was never intended to be the literal memorial anniversary of a historical event, but rather a liturgical observance of a saving event.When the emperor Constantine himself became Christian, his Edict of Milan in 313 provided protection and support for the church community which already had in place its Nativity date of December 25. The rest, as they say, is history.
If there is any time of the year that we might call a time of lights, it is surely now. Lights on shrubs, trees, railings and houses cause us to “oohh” and “aahh” and warm our hearts. If seen aright, they are but faint reminders of the divine person who came into the darkness of our world to dwell among us as one of us.

As the evangelist John writes, “In him was life” and “from his fullness we have all received.”  Through him, we become children of God. Through this birth we ourselves are rebirthed into divine life itself. Through the light of the Word made flesh, God is present to us in a whole new way.
That is the meaning behind all the lights and the gifts and the gatherings. Celebrate it with a joyful heart!

https://catholicexchange.com/the-festival-of-the-unconquered-sun/

Unfortuntely not the best representation of Traditional Catholicism:


EcuмENISM AND INTERFAITH RELATIONS

(https://eadn-wc03-224032.nxedge.io/cdn/app/uploads/2016/01/Fr.-Tom-Ryan.jpg)
Fr. Tom Ryan, C.S.P.
Paulist Fr. Tom Ryan is director emeritus the Paulist Office for Ecuмenical and Interfaith Relations (https://paulist.org/ministry/unity/).
He lives at the Paulist Center in Boston.
Fr. Ryan made his first promises to the Paulist community on August 26, 1972, and was ordained a priest on May 17, 1975.
He weds his passion for Christian unity and interreligious understanding with his deep interest in the spiritual life by leading retreats, preaching missions, and writing books and articles.
Learn more about Fr. Tom at his website (http://www.tomryancsp.org/newsletter.htm).

Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Miser Peccator on January 12, 2023, 08:51:07 PM
Christ as Sol Invictus Mosaic at the Vatican --
(https://diglib.library.vanderbilt.edu/cdri/jpeg/WK_ChristAsSol.jpg)

Here's a bit of a commentary about it --
https://www.ethikapolitika.org/2017/04/17/christ-sol-invictus-way-christian-epistemological-crisis

During Vigil Masses, the rising sun was always looked up on by early Christians as a symbol of Our Lord, and the rising sun the Light of Christ enlightening the world.


I think I pointed this out in the other thread, but there are only two depictions of the Sol Invictus that "some" claim are Our Lord Jesus Christ.

Yet even those are disputed:

This interpretation is doubted by others: "Only the cross-shaped nimbus makes the Christian significance apparent",[56] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Invictus#cite_note-Kemp-2000-67) and the figure is seen by some simply as a representation of the Sun with no explicit religious reference whatever, pagan or Christian.[57] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Invictus#cite_note-Hijmans-2003-68)[13] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Invictus#cite_note-Hijmans-2009-14): 567–578 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Invictus

Basically, it appears that there is a mausoleum under St Peter's where there is both a depiction of the Good Shepherd Jesus and the Sol Invictus.   That doesn't mean that the Sol Invictus is Jesus.  Jesus Christ Our Lord and Savior replaced this false god of heliocentric sun worship.


(https://i.imgur.com/f9pJ6lU.png)


(https://i.imgur.com/qnFsgdL.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/5cF2Q7G.png)



Where are the Catholic Churches named for the Sol Invictus?

Where is the Sol Invictus named in Catholic litanies to Our Lord?

Where is the Catholic Tradition throughout the ages of invoking Our Dear Lord Jesus Christ as the Sol Invictus?

It doesn't exist.

What has remained of the cult of worship of the Sol Invictus is heliocentrism, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, satanism, Luciferianism and Rosicrucianism.


Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Miser Peccator on January 12, 2023, 08:55:35 PM
The Sol Invictus is known by many names:

Zeus
Appollo
Mithras
Helios


He was the model for the Statue of Liberty which was created by a Freemason and symbolizes FREEDOM from God


https://therovingypsy.com/2022/03/05/a-monument-to-freedom-the-statue-of-liberty/
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Miser Peccator on January 12, 2023, 08:59:45 PM
The italian term for So May it Be is "E Cosi Sia" as you can see at in the Italian version of the Epiphany sermon

https://www.brigataperladifesadellovvio.com/blog/vidimus-stellam-ejus-in-oriente-omelia-dell-arcivescovo-carlo-maria-vigano-nell-epifania-di-nostro-signore-gesu-cristo

A search for the terms "E Cosi Sia" massoneria turned this up.

http://www.heredom1224.it/la-libera-muratoria/i-doveri-di-un-libero-muratore-1723.html

E Cosi Sia is at the bottom of this masonic text.


Pope Pius VI, Bull “Auctorem fidei," August 28, 1794: “[The Ancient Doctors] knew the capacity of innovators in the art of deception.  In order not to shock the ears of Catholics, they sought to hide the subtleties… by the use of seemingly innocuous words such as would allow them to insinuate error into souls in the most gentle manner. Once the truth had been compromised, they could, by means of slight changes or additions in phraseology, distort the confession of the faith which is necessary for our salvation, and lead the faithful by subtle errors to their eternal damnation.”

Pope Pius VI points out that camouflaging the heresies in statements that are ambiguous or seemingly conservative or contradictory was the tactic of the heretic Nestorius, and that Catholics cannot allow heretics to get away with this or deceive them by it.  They must hold such heretics to their heresies regardless:

Quote
Pope Pius VI, “Auctorem fidei": “… it cannot be excused in the way that one sees it being done, under the erroneous pretext that the seemingly shocking affirmations in one place are further developed along orthodox lines in other places, and even in yet other places corrected; as if allowing for the possibility of either affirming or denying the statement… such has always been the fraudulent and daring method used by innovators to establish error.  It allows for both the possibility of promoting error and of excusing it.
"…It is a most reprehensible technique for the insinuation of doctrinal errors and one condemned long ago by our predecessor Saint Celestine who found it used in the writings of Nestorius, Bishop of Constantinople, and which he exposed in order to condemn it with the greatest possible severity.  Once these texts were examined carefully, the impostor was exposed and confounded, for he expressed himself in a plethora of words, mixing true things with others that were obscure; mixing at times one with the other in such a way that he was also able to confess those things which were denied while at the same time possessing a basis for denying those very sentences which he confessed.”
Heretics have always used ambiguity and deception to insinuate their heresies and make them seem not quite as bad.  In fact, the more deceptive the heretic is usually equates to how successful he is for the Devil.  The heretic Arius effectively spread his denial of the Divinity of Christ because he impressed people with his appearance of ascetism and devotion.
Quote
Pope Pius XI, Rite expiatis (# 6), April 30, 1926: “…heresies gradually arose and grew in the vineyard of the Lord, propagated either by open heretics or by sly deceivers who, because they professed a certain austerity of life and gave a false appearance of virtue and piety, easily led weak and simple souls astray.”[143] (https://schismatic-home-aloner.com/anti-pope-benedict-xvi/#_edn143)
Pope Pius VI concludes his point by giving Catholics instructions on how to deal with such deception or ambiguity among the writings of heretics:
Quote
"In order to expose such snares, something which becomes necessary with a certain frequency in every century, no other method is required than the following: WHENEVER IT BECOMES NECESSARY TO EXPOSE STATEMENTS WHICH DISGUISE SOME SUSPECTED ERROR OR DANGER UNDER THE VEIL OF AMBIGUITY, ONE MUST DENOUNCE THE PERVERSE MEANING UNDER WHICH THE ERROR OPPOSED TO CATHOLIC TRUTH IS CAMOUFLAGED.”
Pope Pius VI teaches us that if someone veils a heresy in ambiguity, a Catholic must hold him to the heretical meaning and denounce the heretical meaning which is camouflaged in ambiguity.  But this is only common sense: if a man says that he is against abortion, but repeatedly votes in favor of it, he is a supporter of abortion and a heretic.  The fact that he sometimes claims to hold Church teaching against abortion means nothing.


https:// vatican   catholic.com  /anti-pope-benedict-xvi/
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: SeanJohnson on January 12, 2023, 09:03:26 PM
Getting gαyer by the hour.

One might almost suspect these sedes are jealous of the Archbishop’s acuмen?
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Miser Peccator on January 12, 2023, 09:03:47 PM
Anyone else check this out?  I'm really wondering whether the OP was actually written by him (as well as anything after 11/22).



The thing people need to realize is that "ʝʊdɛօ-Christianity" is Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is Luciferianism.

Vigano has been very consistent with his support of "ʝʊdɛօ-Christian" causes.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Donachie on January 12, 2023, 09:40:00 PM
ʝʊdɛօ-Christianity is deceptive imo. ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic is more the thing. Christianity doesn't need the ʝʊdɛօ added to the front. Christianity doesn't really need the Feral Rezerve Bank or the Altar of Zeus at Pergamon either.

Billy Pilgrim and Kurt Vonnegut used to say, "so it goes", in Italian maybe "cosi va", which is a little different from "e cosi sia". Billy Pilgrim was a "sci-fi" sort of character and Kurt Vonnegut was an atheist.

So it goes, yet things don't change in relation to the infinite, they only change in relation to other things. That's how epiphany appears to me. There are aspects of immutable relations that are discovered even in mutable things, and the three wise men went home another way.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: praesul on January 12, 2023, 11:29:58 PM

I think I pointed this out in the other thread, but there are only two depictions of the Sol Invictus that "some" claim are Our Lord Jesus Christ.

Yet even those are disputed:

This interpretation is doubted by others: "Only the cross-shaped nimbus makes the Christian significance apparent",[56] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Invictus#cite_note-Kemp-2000-67) and the figure is seen by some simply as a representation of the Sun with no explicit religious reference whatever, pagan or Christian.[57] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Invictus#cite_note-Hijmans-2003-68)[13] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Invictus#cite_note-Hijmans-2009-14): 567–578 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Invictus

Basically, it appears that there is a mausoleum under St Peter's where there is both a depiction of the Good Shepherd Jesus and the Sol Invictus.  That doesn't mean that the Sol Invictus is Jesus.  Jesus Christ Our Lord and Savior replaced this false god of heliocentric sun worship.

Very good points, Miser. Thank you for posting this. 
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Meg on January 13, 2023, 06:22:15 AM
OK, so stick with me folks.  I have my tin foil hat firmly planted. 

I did a little research/investigating into prior writings by Vigano.  He used this ending as of 12/17, but I do not see it prior to that.  You might also recall that he was silent for weeks until that communique.

Coincidence? Maybe someone can double check my findings, but this seems very strange to me.

Remember this thread:

Has +Vigano Been Eerily Quiet Lately? - page 1 - SSPX Resistance News - Catholic Info (cathinfo.com) (https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/has-vigano-been-eerily-quiet-lately/)

That's something to consider 2V. Time will tell as to whether or not he continues to put suspicious things into his communications. 
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: 2Vermont on January 13, 2023, 05:04:56 PM
Anyone else check this out?  I'm really wondering whether the OP was actually written by him (as well as anything after 11/22).
This was his last public statement before he went silent for almost a month. 


EXCLUSIVE: Archbishop Vigano Shares His Message with Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International (thegatewaypundit.com) (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/exclusive-archbishop-vigano-shares-message-medical-doctors-covid-ethics-international/)
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Meg on January 14, 2023, 09:04:20 AM
This was his last public statement before he went silent for almost a month.


EXCLUSIVE: Archbishop Vigano Shares His Message with Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International (thegatewaypundit.com) (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/exclusive-archbishop-vigano-shares-message-medical-doctors-covid-ethics-international/)

Well, that statement might get him into serious trouble with those who support the aims of Klaus Schwab. 
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Miser Peccator on January 15, 2023, 08:35:37 PM


The thing people need to realize is that "ʝʊdɛօ-Christianity" is Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is Luciferianism.

Vigano has been very consistent with his support of "ʝʊdɛօ-Christian" causes.


Again, dropping phrases/ideas that come from Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is nothing new for him.

Vigano in his correspondence during the past year has

more than once promoted the idea of a

"peaceful coexistence of equal nations".

That is not a Catholic idea.

It's Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.

That was the political doctrine of Freemasons

Khrushchev, Lenin and Stalin.

It is also the plan of the UN and the One World Religion.

See more on that in this post:

https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/the-msgr-vigano-poll/msg850693/#msg850693


From:
https://freemasoninformation.com/bee-hive/coexist/

The Level is the one symbol that distinguishes Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ very differently from all other organizations and societies in the world and has the potential to make it a world leader in advocating peace. There is no Masonic distinction or division of religion, race, wealth, title or political persuasion. All Masons are equal in stature and operate on the level. Masons seek to share what they have in common and keep away from that which divides them.

Every Lodge is an oasis of peace, every Mason a non violent member of his community. Tolerance and non judgmental-ism are the guides a Mason uses to interact with his fellow human beings and live a peaceful life. He doesn’t sanction evil but he does adopt a position of peaceful coexistence with many different paths. Thus the lesson of the video is one every Mason has learned and practices.



(https://i.imgur.com/FhePdTD.png)
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Cera on January 16, 2023, 12:30:39 PM

"peaceful coexistence of equal nations".

That is not a Catholic idea.

It's Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.


No. Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ/satanism is globalist.
They oppose nationhood.
They oppose equal nations.
And since they profit from endless wars, they oppose peace.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Miser Peccator on January 16, 2023, 01:51:46 PM
No. Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ/satanism is globalist.
They oppose nationhood.
They oppose equal nations.
And since they profit from endless wars, they oppose peace.
Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is Judaism for the goyim.

St Maximillian Kolbe warned Freemasons the Jєωs would dump them after they have been used by them to attain their goals.

In 1926, in the first issue of the monthly Knight of the Immaculate, Kolbe said he considered Freemasons "as an organized clique of fanatical Jєωs, who want to destroy the church."[30] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Kolbe#cite_note-31) In a 1924 column, he cited the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion) as an "important proof" that "the founders of Zionism intended, in fact, the subjugation of the entire world", but that "not even all Jєωs know this".[31] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Kolbe#cite_note-32) In a calendar that the publishing house of his organization, the Militia of the Immaculate, published in an edition of a million in 1939, Kolbe wrote, "Atheistic Communism seems to rage ever more wildly. Its origin can easily be located in that criminal mafia that calls itself Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, and the hand that is guiding all that toward a clear goal is international Zionism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Kolbe

Equal nations is communism.

They use euphemisms to make nice sounding promises with an evil end goal in mind.

Again, it's laid out pretty well in this thread starting here:
https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/the-msgr-vigano-poll/msg850693/#msg850693

But I'll make a few notes here.

"The defeat of the deep state by the healthy forces within the United States of America will be the premise for a peaceful coexistence of nations, without there being one nation that considers itself superior and legitimized to subjugate the others. " Vigano

It's the plan of the United Nations and it was laid out by Israel's first Prime Minister, Ben Gurion:


(https://i.imgur.com/fz6Fkrf.png)
"No more wars" just like George Bush Sr said in his nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr speech on 9/11 in 1991.

The goal is not for endless wars but for specific wars and especially

the three World Wars to bring forth the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.

It was laid out by Freemason Grandmaster Albert Pike (Trump's hero) one hundred years ago. 

Because of the worldwide surveillance state (both outside the body and inside), once they accomplish this plan there will be no further need for armies and war.  We can even "defund the police". 

We can "authenticate humans" with digital ID and the Internet of Bodies (IOB) and blockchain so we'll have "safe elections" online.  It will appear democratic.

AI will take care of surveillance and take out anyone who has thought crimes against the state.  This will ensure "world peace".

There will be nations because governments will work in tandem with private corporations to provide the public private partnership of the 4th Industrial Revolution though Social Impact Bonds and ESG scores (social credit rating accepted worldwide) according to the UN's Social Development Goals. 

Yet there will be fascist globalism because the banks and big corporations will actually rule the world by controlling the money and by creating "human capital" (workers) tailored to their needs plus work will be done in the metaverse with worldwide competition for limited jobs.

All the countries of the world have already signed on to the UN (Lucifer Trust) SDG's, China and Russia included.  We already have a one world government.  Both sides of the aisle are advancing the goals.

The wars and psyops going on are just herding the people into accepting and even begging for it. 

People will love their enslavement and build their own prisons because they will see it as

"saving the planet"
"world peace"
"peaceful coexistence"






Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Cera on January 16, 2023, 03:12:21 PM

"The defeat of the deep state by the healthy forces within the United States of America will be the premise for a peaceful coexistence of nations, without there being one nation that considers itself superior and legitimized to subjugate the others. " Vigano
If, in disagreeing with +Vigano) you are saying that the Deep State within the US actually IS superior and legitimized to subjugate the others, then I have to disagree with you

and agree with +Vigano that in the battle between the evil US deep state and the HEALTHY US forces, I'm with him in rooting against the deep state which considers itself entitled to subjugate other nations.

The deep state is globalist subjegation of other nations.
+Vigano opposes that.
Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Miser Peccator on January 16, 2023, 05:21:17 PM
If, in disagreeing with +Vigano) you are saying that the Deep State within the US actually IS superior and legitimized to subjugate the others, then I have to disagree with you

and agree with +Vigano that in the battle between the evil US deep state and the HEALTHY US forces, I'm with him in rooting against the deep state which considers itself entitled to subjugate other nations.

The deep state is globalist subjegation of other nations.
+Vigano opposes that.

The "Deep State" is really just a fake boogieman.

Vigano warns about the "Deep State" while supporting Zionist Trump and Zionist Bannon.

They are the "Deep State".  Zionism is the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.  

He warns about the "Deep Church"

while calling Benedict who went around with the Israeli star on his mitre 

the Katechon holding back the antichrist.  


Benedict was the "Deep Church" just as much if not more than Francis.

Zionism is the goal of Jews and Freemasons to bring in the NWO.



All the politicians on the World Stage are bringing it forth.   

They play both sides and use the hegelian dialectic to herd the masses into accepting and even asking for the end goal.

There are no good guys fighting the bad guys at that level.

They've been working towards this goal for over a hundred years and they have met openly and written books about it.

Politics is all about psychological warfare so the masses are conditioned to welcome the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.


In Christendom the Church strove to bring the whole world under Jesus Christ and Catholicism.


For over a century now the leaders of the world are striving to bring everyone under Lucifer (sometimes called "the light" or the "lightbearer").


The problem for Catholics is that Freemasons/Rosicrucians/Theosophists

can sound just like Catholics.

They say they worship God when they worship Lucifer.
They pray to "Christ" and want to usher in world peace under "Christ", but it's not Jesus Christ Our Lord and Savior second person of the Blessed Trinity.
They can outright lie but they can also tell the truth as they have adulterated the Catholic Faith.
Lucifer has to deceive even the elect into worshiping him.

So you have to be on your toes and notice red flags.


Another red flag was when Vigano addressed MAGA worshippers as the "Children of Light".

This was at a ʝʊdɛօ-Christian Jericho rally where they blow the shofar. 

The shofar is a horn for calling forth the Moshiach (Antichrist).

The people in the crowd were Jews, Protestants, Catholics and whatnot.

The one thing they had in common was MAGA worship.

Calling this crowd the "Children of Light" does not fit with Catholic theology.

It does fit with Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.  Syncretism.  Luciferianism.


“We are the silent army of the children of Light, the humble ranks who overthrow evil by invoking God, the praying army that walks around the walls of lies and betrayal in order to bring them down.” By speaking in the first person plural — “we” — he is making clear that he considers himself one of them and one with them. This is only consistent with the nature and purpose of the event, which the organizers had announced would be “comprised of ʝʊdɛօ-Christians collectively praying to God”.
https://novusordowatch.org/2020/12/vigano-and-marshall-in-ecuмenical-prayer-rally/



This special coin was produced to praise President Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu as Sons of Light fighting against the Sons of Darkness, and in recognition of the historical and divine process of the Rebuilding of the Third Temple in Jerusalem.
(https://i.imgur.com/hpGbCYD.png)
https://www.temple-coins.com/products/copy-of-trump-and-bibi-netanyahu-coin-grey-silver


ʝʊdɛօ-Christian Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ reduces Catholicism and Our Lord Jesus Christ to a member of the Pantheon of gods.

Jesus is the Temple rebuilt.  There is no need for another.


Also, rather than seeing Traditional Catholics holding fast to the Traditions handed down from the Apostles as the Church and the Katechon, Vigano names three elements to the Katechon:

1.  Trump
2.  Benedict
3.  Moscow --the Third Rome


Seeing Moscow as the Third Rome implies that The Catholic Church,

the ONE true Church and the ONE true religion is no more and

Moscow the center of a heretical sect in lockstep with Putin who has stated on television that he sees Christianity as a form of communism with its own relics of Lenin and the ideals of liberty, equality, and fraternity,

the motto of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ as coming from the Bible

is not fitting with Catholic theology.

It indicates that a Third Rome will rise like a Phoenix from the ashes of the Catholic Church.

Interestingly enough, Albert Pike's plan for three world wars to bring about the NWO was written to fellow Freemason Mazzini who also espoused the plan to create a Third Rome on the ashes of the Catholic Church.

Title: Re: +Vigano Epiphany Sermon
Post by: Miser Peccator on January 16, 2023, 05:41:00 PM
In this Twitter thread you will see Vigano meeting with Russia's Alexander Dugin who also believes in a "Third Rome".



https://twitter.com/2022moshiachnow/status/1608971882459693057



Satanist/Kabbalist Dugin explaining his belief:


Dugin stressed that Russia is able to be a world empire. "That is why we are Rome. And those who oppose us – are Carthage.


https://www.memri.org/reports/russian-anti-liberal-philosopher-dugin-third-rome-moscow-putting-limit-new-carthage-west