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Offline DecemRationis

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Re: +Vigano Calls Francis "Heretical Tyrant on the Chair"
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2023, 10:40:32 AM »
Quote from: Yeti on January 20, 2023, 10:26:20 AM
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Vigano has never promoted or even espoused sedevacantism.

Correct. 
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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: +Vigano Calls Francis "Heretical Tyrant on the Chair"
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2023, 10:57:14 AM »
Quote from: DecemRationis on January 19, 2023, 07:37:17 PM

Tell that to Vigano. He doesn't bother with the question. He sees the man sitting on the throne; he sees he's evil; and he hopes for the end of the scourge. Comb through his abundant writings and see if you can find him bothering with the question whether Bergolio sitting "on the throne" is truly pope or not, and then come back and quote it for us.





Sorry, he's not distracted with your question of "vacancy." He's dealing with a heretic "on the throne" and an apostate leadership and hierarchy. He has eyes; he can see; and he's not distracted on academic questions of whether their title is legal when their possession is undeniable, and he wants his land and country back. Period.

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He will *never* get his land nor his country back *until* he settles the question. There is no authority above the pope, period. He can rant and rave all he wants, but as long as he considers that communist in white as a true pope, he has absolutely no power to do anything.
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Offline Catholic Knight

Re: +Vigano Calls Francis "Heretical Tyrant on the Chair"
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2023, 11:13:43 AM »
Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on January 20, 2023, 10:57:14 AM
He can rant and rave all he wants, but as long as he considers that communist in white as a true pope, he has absolutely no power to do anything.

You are correct that as long as Archbishop Vigano recognizes Jorge Bergoglio as a true pope he cannot go any further because a true pope has supreme jurisdiction over all ecclesiastical matters.
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Offline 2Vermont

Re: +Vigano Calls Francis "Heretical Tyrant on the Chair"
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2023, 11:23:53 AM »
Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on January 20, 2023, 10:57:14 AM

He will *never* get his land nor his country back *until* he settles the question. There is no authority above the pope, period. He can rant and rave all he wants, but as long as he considers that communist in white as a true pope, he has absolutely no power to do anything.
He should also get consecrated so he is actually a certainly true Bishop.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: +Vigano Calls Francis "Heretical Tyrant on the Chair"
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2023, 11:27:09 AM »
Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on January 20, 2023, 10:57:14 AM
He will *never* get his land nor his country back *until* he settles the question. There is no authority above the pope, period. He can rant and rave all he wants, but as long as he considers that communist in white as a true pope, he has absolutely no power to do anything.

He's never said he's the true pope, but never said he's not.  He's adopting the +Lefebvre attitude of letting the "prelates of the Church" make the final determination.

He clearly has serious doubts, calls him a heretical tyrant, has never called him "Pope" or even "Francis" but always just Bergoglio.  He's just hesitating because he doesn't feel he has the authority to do anything about it.
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