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SeanJohnson · « **on:** January 19, 2023, 12:40:01 PM »

Abp. Viganò: We must ‘celebrate’ the papacy despite the ‘heretical tyrant’ on the throne of St. Peter

Let us pray that the Lord will deign to grant us a holy pope and holy rulers.

Archbishop Viganò

(LifeSiteNews) — The following is Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò’s sermon on the Feast of the Chair of Saint Peter in Rome.

CATHEDRA VERITATIS

Deus, qui beato Petro Apostolo tuo,

collatis clavibus regni cælestis,

ligandi atque solvendi pontificium tradidisti:

concede; ut, intercessionis ejus auxilio,

a peccatorum nostrorum nexibus liberemur

PRAISED BE JESUS CHRIST

Today the Church in Rome celebrates the feast of the Chair of Saint Peter, with which the authority that Our Lord conferred on the Prince of the Apostles finds in the Chair its symbol and ecclesial expression. We find traces of this celebration since the third century, but it was in 1588, at the time of the Lutheran heresy, that Paul IV established that the feast of the Chair qua primum Romæ sedit Petrus would take place on January 18, in response to the denial of the presence of the Apostle in the City of Rome. The other feast for the Chair of the first Diocese founded by St. Peter, Antioch, is celebrated by the universal Church on February 22.

Let me point out this important aspect: just as the human body develops antibodies when disease arises, so that it can be defeated when it is infected; so too the ecclesial body defends itself from the contagion of error when it occurs, affirming with greater incisiveness those aspects of dogma threatened by heresy. For this reason, with great wisdom, the Church proclaimed Truths of the Faith at certain times and not before, since those Truths were hitherto believed by the faithful in a less explicit and articulated form and it was not yet necessary to specify them. The sacred Canons of the Ecuмenical Council of Nicaea respond to the Arian denial of the divine nature of Our Lord, and are echoed by the splendid compositions of the ancient liturgy; the denial of the sacrificial value of the Mass, transubstantiation, suffrages and indulgences are answered by the sacred Canons of the Council of Trent, and along with them also the sublime texts of the Liturgy. Today’s feast responds to the anti-papal denial of the foundation of the Diocese of Rome by the Apostle Peter, a feast that was desired by Paul IV precisely in order to reiterate the historical truth contested by Protestants and to strengthen the doctrine that derives from it.
The heretics and their neo-modernist followers, who have infested the Church of Christ for the past sixty years, act in the opposite way. And where they do not brazenly deny the Catholic magisterium, they attempt to weaken it by being silent about it, omitting it, and formulating it in such a way as to make it equivocal and therefore acceptable even by those who deny it.
This is exactly how the heresiarchs of the past also acted; this is how the innovators acted at Vatican II; and this is how those who, in order not to be accused of formal heresy, seek to cancel those “immune defenses” with which the Church had endowed herself, so as to make the faith fall into error and infect those defenses with the plague of heresy. Almost everything that the Mystical Body had wisely developed over the centuries – and particularly during the second millennium of the Christian era – growing harmoniously like a child who becomes an adult and strengthens himself in body and spirit, has now been willfully obscured and censured, with the deceptive excuse of returning to the primordial simplicity of Christian antiquity, and with the unspeakable purpose of adulterating the Catholic Faith in order to please the enemies of the Church.

If you take the Montinian missal, you will not find explicit heresies in it; but if you compare it with the traditional missal, you will find that the omission of so many prayers composed in defense of revealed Truth was more than enough to make the reformed Mass acceptable even to Lutherans, as they themselves admitted after the promulgation of that fatal and equivocal rite. To confirm this, even the feasts of the Chair of St. Peter in Rome and Antioch have been combined into one, in the name of that cancel culture that the modernist sect adopted in the ecclesiastical sphere well before the woke left appropriated it in the civil sphere.

Today we celebrate the glories of the papacy, symbolized by the Cathedra Apostolica that the genius of Bernini artistically composed on the altar of the apse of the Vatican Basilica, which is dominated by the alabaster window depicting the Holy Spirit and guarded by four Doctors of the Church: Saint Augustine and Saint Ambrose for the Latin Church, Saint Athanasius and Saint John Chrysostom for the Greek Church. In the original project, which has remained intact through the centuries, the Chair was located above an altar, which the devastating fury of the innovators did not spare, moving it between the apse and the baldacchino of the Confession. Yet it is precisely in the architectural unity of altar and chair – which today has been deliberately erased – that we find the foundation of the doctrine of the primacy of Peter, which is founded on Christ, He who is the lapis angularis, just as the altar of sacrifice, which is also a symbol of Christ, is made of stone.

We celebrate the papacy in a historical phase of grave crisis and apostasy, which has risen even to the level of the Throne on which Peter first sat. And while our hearts are broken in contemplating the ruins caused by the devastation of the innovators to the detriment of so many souls and the glory of the divine Majesty; while we implore from Heaven a light that will allow us to understand how to combine Our Lord’s promise Non prævalebunt with the steady stream of heresies and scandals spread by the one whom Providence has inflicted on us at the head of the ecclesial body as punishment for the sins committed by the hierarchy in these decades; while we see the division between those who deluded themselves that they still had a pope segregated in the monastery … and the schism in the dioceses of northern Europe with their wicked synodal journey strongly desired by Bergoglio, we remember the prophecy of Leo XIII of happy memory, who wanted to insert in the prayer of the Exorcism against Satan and the apostate angels those terrible words that at the time must have sounded almost scandalous, but that today we understand in their supernatural sense:

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Ecclesiam, Agni immaculati sponsam, faverrimi hostes repleverunt amaritudinibus, inebriarunt absinthio; Ad omnia desiderabilia ejus impias miserunt manus. Ubi sedes beatissimi Petri et Cathedra veritatis ad lucem gentium constituta est, ibi thronum posuerunt abominationis et impietatis suæ; ut percusso Pastor, et gregem disperse valeant.
Terrible enemies have filled the Church, bride of the immaculate Lamb, with bitterness, they have poisoned her with absinthe; they have laid their wicked hands on all desirable things. There where the See of Blessed Peter and the Chair of Truth was established to enlighten the nations, there they have placed the throne of their abomination and impiety, so that by striking the Shepherd they might also scatter the flock.

These are not randomly written words: they were written after Leo XIII, at the end of Mass, had a vision in which the Lord granted Satan a period of time of about a hundred years to test the men of the Church. They echo the message of the Blessed Virgin at La Salette, fifty years earlier: “Rome will lose the Faith and become the seat of the Antichrist,” and precede by little more than a decade that third part of the Secret of Fatima in which, in all likelihood, Our Lady predicted the apostasy of the hierarchy with the Second Vatican Council and the liturgical reform.

Every believer down the centuries has been able to look to Rome as a beacon of truth. No pope, not even the most controversial popes in history like Alexander VI, ever dared to usurp his sacred Apostolic authority in order to demolish the Church, adulterate her magisterium, corrupt her morality, and trivialize her liturgy. In the midst of the most shocking storms, the Chair of Peter has remained unshaken and, despite persecution, it has never failed in the mandate conferred on it by Christ: Feed my lambs. Feed my sheep (Jn 21:15-19). Today, and for ten years now, feeding the lambs and sheep of the Lord’s flock is considered as a “solemn foolishness” by the one who now occupies the Throne of Peter, and the command that the Lord has given to the Apostles – Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you (Mt 28:19-20) – is seen as deplorable “proselytism,” as if the divine mission of the Holy Church were comparable to the heretical propaganda of sects.

He said so on October 1, 2013; January 6, 2014; September 24, 2016; May 3, 2018; September 30, 2018; June 6, 2019; December 20, 2019; April 25, 2020, and again just a week ago on January 11, 2023. And here collapses the last, gasping vestige of what was Vatican II, which made “mission” [missionarietà] its watchword without understanding that in order to proclaim Christ to a paganized world it is necessary first of all to believe in the supernatural Truths that He taught the Apostles and that the Church has the duty to guard faithfully. Watering down Catholic doctrine, silencing it, and betraying it in order to please the mentality of the age is not the work of Faith, because this virtue is based on God who is the Supreme Truth; it is not a work of Hope, because one cannot hope for the salvation or help of a God whose revealing authority and saving love one rejects; it is not a work of Charity, because one cannot love Him whose very essence is denied.

What is the vulnus that has struck the ecclesial body, making possible this apostasy of the leaders of the hierarchy, to the point of causing scandal not only in Catholics, but also in the people of the world? It is the abuse of authority. It is believing that the power connected with authority can be exercised for the very opposite purpose of that purpose which legitimizes authority itself. It is taking God’s place, usurping His supreme power to decide what is right and what is not, deciding what can still be said to people and what is to be considered old-fashioned or outdated in the name of progress and evolution. It is to use the power of the Holy Keys to loose what ought to be bound and bind what ought to be loosed. It is not to understand that authority belongs to God and to no one else, and that both the rulers of nations and the prelates of the Church are all hierarchically subjected to Christ the King and High Priest. In short, it is separating the Chair from the altar, the authority of the Vicar and the Regent from that of the One who makes that authority sacred, ratified from above, because He possesses its fullness and is its divine origin.

Among the titles of the roman pontiff, there recurs, along with Christi Vicarius, also that of Servus servorum Dei. If the first has been disdainfully rejected by Bergoglio, his choice to retain the second sounds like a provocation, as his words and his works demonstrate. The day will come when the prelates of the Church will be asked to clarify what intrigues and cօռspιʀαcιҽs may have led to the Throne one who acts as the servant of Satan’s servants, and why they have fearfully assisted his excesses or made themselves accomplices of this proud heretical tyrant. Let those tremble who know and yet are silent out of false sense of prudence: by their silence they do not protect the honor of the Holy Church, nor do they preserve the simple from scandal. On the contrary, they plunge the Bride of the Lamb into ignominy and humiliation, and drive the faithful away from the Ark of Salvation at the very moment of the Flood.

Let us pray that the Lord will deign to grant us a holy pope and holy rulers. Let us implore Him to put an end to this long period of trial, thanks to which – like every event permitted by God – we are now understanding how fundamental it is instaurare omnia in Christo, to recapitulate everything in Christ; how hellish – literally – is the world that rejects the Lordship of Christ, and how much more infernal is a religion that strips itself with contempt of its royal garments – robes dyed with the Blood of the Lamb on the Cross – to become the servant of the powerful, of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr, of the globalist sect. Tempora bona veniant. Pax Christi veniat. Regnum Christi veniat.

And so may it be.

+ Carlo Maria Viganò, Archbishop

Ladislaus · « **Reply #1 on:** January 19, 2023, 04:09:01 PM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on January 19, 2023, 12:40:01 PM

the ‘heretical tyrant’ on the throne of St. Peter

Ladislaus · « **Reply #2 on:** January 19, 2023, 04:30:45 PM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on January 19, 2023, 12:40:01 PM

while we see the division between those who deluded themselves that they still had a pope segregated in the monastery …

+ Carlo Maria Viganò, Archbishop

Sounds like he's rejecting Bennyvacantism, the belief that Benny was the Pope.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #3 on:** January 19, 2023, 04:32:17 PM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on January 19, 2023, 12:40:01 PM

Let me point out this important aspect: just as the human body develops antibodies when disease arises, so that it can be defeated when it is infected; so too the ecclesial body defends itself from the contagion of error when it occurs, affirming with greater incisiveness those aspects of dogma threatened by heresy. For this reason, with great wisdom, the Church proclaimed Truths of the Faith at certain times and not before, since those Truths were hitherto believed by the faithful in a less explicit and articulated form and it was not yet necessary to specify them.

This is a beautiful anti-Modernist definition against the notion that dogma progresses.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #4 on:** January 19, 2023, 04:40:01 PM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on January 19, 2023, 12:40:01 PM

We celebrate the papacy in a historical phase of grave crisis and apostasy, which has risen even to the level of the Throne on which Peter first sat. And while our hearts are broken in contemplating the ruins caused by the devastation of the innovators to the detriment of so many souls and the glory of the divine Majesty; while we implore from Heaven a light that will allow us to understand how to combine Our Lord’s promise Non prævalebunt with the steady stream of heresies and scandals spread by the one whom Providence has inflicted on us at the head of the ecclesial body as punishment for the sins committed by the hierarchy in these decades; while we see the division between those who deluded themselves that they still had a pope segregated in the monastery … and the schism in the dioceses of northern Europe with their wicked synodal journey strongly desired by Bergoglio, we remember the prophecy of Leo XIII of happy memory, who wanted to insert in the prayer of the Exorcism against Satan and the apostate angels those terrible words that at the time must have sounded almost scandalous, but that today we understand in their supernatural sense:

These are not randomly written words: they were written after Leo XIII, at the end of Mass, had a vision in which the Lord granted Satan a period of time of about a hundred years to test the men of the Church. They echo the message of the Blessed Virgin at La Salette, fifty years earlier: “Rome will lose the Faith and become the seat of the Antichrist,” and precede by little more than a decade that third part of the Secret of Fatima in which, in all likelihood, Our Lady predicted the apostasy of the hierarchy with the Second Vatican Council and the liturgical reform.
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The day will come when the prelates of the Church will be asked to clarify what intrigues and cօռspιʀαcιҽs may have led to the Throne one who acts as the servant of Satan’s servants, and why they have fearfully assisted his excesses or made themselves accomplices of this proud heretical tyrant. Let those tremble who know and yet are silent out of false sense of prudence: by their silence they do not protect the honor of the Holy Church, nor do they preserve the simple from scandal. On the contrary, they plunge the Bride of the Lamb into ignominy and humiliation, and drive the faithful away from the Ark of Salvation at the very moment of the Flood.
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+ Carlo Maria Viganò, Archbishop

Strongly implies that the See of Peter is vacant, yet waiting for "the prelates of the Church ... to clarify ... cօռspιʀαcιҽs" to put a "servant of Satan's servants" and "heretical tyrant" on the Throne of Peter.

Amazing!

DecemRationis · « **Reply #5 on:** January 19, 2023, 04:52:37 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on January 19, 2023, 04:40:01 PM

Strongly implies that the See of Peter is vacant, yet waiting for "the prelates of the Church ... to clarify ... cօռspιʀαcιҽs" to put a "servant of Satan's servants" and "heretical tyrant" on the Throne of Peter.

Amazing!

To his credit, Vigano avoids the question of "vacancy" as a distraction: we have a rather large $%# sitting in the seat, a servant of Satan. This is not about saving the distinctions in pre-V2 manuals, but likely about the end times and the Great Apostasy.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #6 on:** January 19, 2023, 05:04:11 PM »

Quote from: DecemRationis on January 19, 2023, 04:52:37 PM

To his credit, Vigano avoids the question of "vacancy" as a distraction: ...

It's not a distraction, as we have lots of erstwhile Catholics losing the faith and sliding into Old Catholicism by attributing this destruction to papal authority, attributing corruption to the Magisterium and the Church's public worship.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #7 on:** January 19, 2023, 05:09:18 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on January 19, 2023, 05:04:11 PM

It's not a distraction, as we have lots of erstwhile Catholics losing the faith and sliding into Old Catholicism by attributing this destruction to papal authority, attributing corruption to the Magisterium and the Church's public worship.

Most eminent theologians believed even a manifestly heretical pope would retain jurisdiction over the Church until deposed, and I presume from this letter this is Viganò’s position.

You also need to read up on the “authentic magisterium,” which can err.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #8 on:** January 19, 2023, 06:49:57 PM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on January 19, 2023, 05:09:18 PM

Most eminent theologians believed even a manifestly heretical pope would retain jurisdiction over the Church until deposed, and I presume from this letter this is Viganò’s position.

You also need to read up on the “authentic magisterium,” which can err.

That has nothing to do with the issue at hand, where you believe in the heresy that the Magisterium of the Church and the Public Worship of the Church can become corrupt, harmful to souls, offensive to God. However you want to explain it, these things did not emanate from the legitimate papal authority that was freely exercised.

You will be judged by God for attempting to spread your blasphemy and heresy against the Catholic Church.

And you're also lying that "MOST" theologians believe the Cajetan opinion. Majority opinion was always for the actual Bellarmine opinion (not S&S pathetic reinterpretation of it), and the opinion was almost entirely abandoned after Vatican I.

Father Chazal has a different understanding of the Cajetan / John of St. Thomas opinion as well, where he says that these impounded popes lose all authority, and yet you refuse to accept that lifeline to avoid heresy and blasphemy but you persist in your bad will in them ... your absurd distortion of the notion that heretics retain jurisdiction to validly absolve in the Sacrament of Confession notwithstanding.

You have show yourself to be of incredibly bad will against Holy Mother Church, whether out of arrogance or due to some psychological problem, throwing the Church under the proverbial bus so you can be comforted by the thought of this tyrannical heretic walking around in Rome wearing a white cassock being the pope. To save Bergoglio, you're willing to sacrifice the Church.

Archbishop Lefebvre clearly taught that this degree of destruction is not possible given the guidance of the Holy Spirit over the papacy; he merely refrained from deciding on what the explanation for it was, maintaining that SVism is in fact a possibility. While claiming to be most faithful to the Archbishop, you reject his position on the matter also.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #9 on:** January 19, 2023, 06:56:22 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on January 19, 2023, 06:49:57 PM

That has nothing to do with the issue at hand, where you believe in the heresy that the Magisterium of the Church and the Public Worship of the Church can become corrupt, harmful to souls, offensive to God. However you want to explain it, these things did not emanate from the legitimate papal authority that was freely exercised.

You will be judged by God for attempting to spread your blasphemy and heresy against the Catholic Church.

And you're also lying that "MOST" theologians believe the Cajetan opinion. Majority opinion was always for the actual Bellarmine opinion (not S&S pathetic reinterpretation of it), and the opinion was almost entirely abandoned after Vatican I.

Father Chazal has a different understanding of the Cajetan / John of St. Thomas opinion as well, where he says that these impounded popes lose all authority, and yet you refuse to accept that lifeline to avoid heresy and blasphemy but you persist in your bad will in them ... your absurd distortion of the notion that heretics retain jurisdiction to validly absolve in the Sacrament of Confession notwithstanding.

What a moron.

🤦‍♂️

Ladislaus · « **Reply #10 on:** January 19, 2023, 06:58:43 PM »

These words from +Vigano apply to you and your ilk, that you "plunge the Bride of the Lamb into ignominy and humiliation".

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #11 on:** January 19, 2023, 07:01:16 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on January 19, 2023, 06:58:43 PM

These words from +Vigano apply to you and your ilk, that you "plunge the Bride of the Lamb into ignominy and humiliation".

Does anyone else exist in the world you live in?

Donachie · « **Reply #12 on:** January 19, 2023, 07:36:14 PM »

Let me say this about that, Scotus says "intellect does not create substance" or "intellect cannot create substance", then it must be rather a question of debt that gets involved first, since what is first is essential, also in the substance of the question, as "this owing to what"? What is it that is owed by one side or the other in existence for the relation of the potential and the actual, etc.?

It could appear that the ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic V2 Church prefers to be in debt to International Jєωry, world communism, and the heliocentric theory of garbage, for example, besides the temptations of the world as well, rather than to the tradition of the faith.

In schoolio I heard some kids talking 'bout they've got their "orange crush", whatever that was about. I don't have that, I have my Cardinal Siri Thesis, but +Vigano seems to have had his fun and now he's serving his conscience overseas ...

DecemRationis · « **Reply #13 on:** January 19, 2023, 07:37:17 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on January 19, 2023, 05:04:11 PM

It's not a distraction, as we have lots of erstwhile Catholics losing the faith and sliding into Old Catholicism by attributing this destruction to papal authority, attributing corruption to the Magisterium and the Church's public worship.

Tell that to Vigano. He doesn't bother with the question. He sees the man sitting on the throne; he sees he's evil; and he hopes for the end of the scourge. Comb through his abundant writings and see if you can find him bothering with the question whether Bergolio sitting "on the throne" is truly pope or not, and then come back and quote it for us.

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What is the vulnus that has struck the ecclesial body, making possible this apostasy of the leaders of the hierarchy, to the point of causing scandal not only in Catholics, but also in the people of the world? It is the abuse of authority. It is believing that the power connected with authority can be exercised for the very opposite purpose of that purpose which legitimizes authority itself. It is taking God’s place, usurping His supreme power to decide what is right and what is not, deciding what can still be said to people and what is to be considered old-fashioned or outdated in the name of progress and evolution. It is to use the power of the Holy Keys to loose what ought to be bound and bind what ought to be loosed. It is not to understand that authority belongs to God and to no one else, and that both the rulers of nations and the prelates of the Church are all hierarchically subjected to Christ the King and High Priest. In short, it is separating the Chair from the altar, the authority of the Vicar and the Regent from that of the One who makes that authority sacred, ratified from above, because He possesses its fullness and is its divine origin.

Among the titles of the roman pontiff, there recurs, along with Christi Vicarius, also that of Servus servorum Dei. If the first has been disdainfully rejected by Bergoglio, his choice to retain the second sounds like a provocation, as his words and his works demonstrate. The day will come when the prelates of the Church will be asked to clarify what intrigues and cօռspιʀαcιҽs may have led to the Throne one who acts as the servant of Satan’s servants, and why they have fearfully assisted his excesses or made themselves accomplices of this proud heretical tyrant. Let those tremble who know and yet are silent out of false sense of prudence: by their silence they do not protect the honor of the Holy Church, nor do they preserve the simple from scandal. On the contrary, they plunge the Bride of the Lamb into ignominy and humiliation, and drive the faithful away from the Ark of Salvation at the very moment of the Flood.

Sorry, he's not distracted with your question of "vacancy." He's dealing with a heretic "on the throne" and an apostate leadership and hierarchy. He has eyes; he can see; and he's not distracted on academic questions of whether their title is legal when their possession is undeniable, and he wants his land and country back. Period.

DR

Miser Peccator · « **Reply #14 on:** January 19, 2023, 07:44:44 PM »

Quote from: DecemRationis on January 19, 2023, 07:37:17 PM

He's dealing with a heretic "on the throne" and an apostate leadership and hierarchy. He has eyes; he can see; and he's not distracted on academic questions of whether their title is legal when their possession is undeniable, and he wants his land and country back. Period.

DR

If he has eyes to see, why couldn't he see this:

Who did Benedict pray to anyway?

Why would Vigano claim that Benedict is a Katechon?

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