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Re: +Vigano Arrives at Integral Traditionalism
« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2021, 05:47:51 AM »
Yup.  Rather amazing, but that is the current state of things.
Yes, as we watch the ongoing drama unfold in the moribund Conciliar Church, we have to keep everything else in mind as well -- nothing happens in a vacuum.
The recent move in the USA towards communism, the most obvious stolen election ever, the Covid scamdemic, epic progress on the Great Reset scheme, etc.
Also: the collapse of the SSPX into Indult-hood over the past 9 years.
This is ALL happening at the same time.

Re: +Vigano Arrives at Integral Traditionalism
« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2021, 05:54:06 AM »
Yes, but the hypothetical scenario was that every group *except* SSPX elects Vigano as Pope, while *only* the SSPX continues to recognize Francis.  That seems really unlikely.

I think if all the reasonably solid bishops (and I mean everything from Burke or Sarah on the "left" to the Resistance on the "right") were to determine that Francis was a formal heretic, not really the Pope, and held an emergency conclave of some sort to elect Vigano, I don't think the SSPX would stand alone and be like "no, Francis is still Pope."  I find that unlikely TBH.
I understood what you meant.  Yes, if everyone else is electing Vigano as pope rather than recognize Francis, then by doing so they are stating that Bergoglio is not pope (ie. they all become sedevacantist).  It would be good to get some clarity on this since I would be very surprised if they are saying that Bergoglio is not pope.