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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => Topic started by: Infirmus on September 08, 2024, 01:21:57 PM
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Vigano believes Archbishop Lefebvre's excommunication was revoked, huge error due maybe to ignorance by not studying the docuмents by the Vatican.
The SSPX keeps pushing the lifting making the ingnorant sheep believe all is okay but they do not use revoked.
No wonder he went sede
Found in
https://www.wmreview.org/p/vigano-declaration
Vigano declaration in response to Schism charges by the Vatican.
small snippet
Fifty years ago, in that same Palace of the Holy Office, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre was summoned and accused of schism for rejecting Vatican II.
His defense is mine; his words are mine; and his arguments are mine – arguments before which the Roman authorities could not condemn him for heresy, having to wait instead for him to consecrate bishops so as to have the pretext of declaring him schismatic and then revoking his excommunication when he was already dead. The scheme is repeated even after half a century has demonstrated Archbishop Lefebvre’s prophetic choice.
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No wonder he went sede
You've already been told: he's not sede.
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You've already been told: he's not sede.
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Last I heard he is Bennyvacantist, right? Since Benedict is dead, he is technically sedevacantist, but his ideas are fundamentally different from people that reject all the Vatican 2 popes.
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Last I heard he is Bennyvacantist, right? Since Benedict is dead, he is technically sedevacantist, but his ideas are fundamentally different from people that reject all the Vatican 2 popes.
Which is why he really isn't sedevacantist. He's like posters such as Catholic Knight.
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You've already been told: he's not sede.
Mmmmmmmm..........nope..he's a sede
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Mmmmmmmm..........nope..he's a sede
Only the person himself gets to decide whether or not he's a sede.
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Vigano believes Archbishop Lefebvre's excommunication was revoked, huge error due maybe to ignorance by not studying the docuмents by the Vatican.
All news reports said the excommunication of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre was lifted by Pope Benedict XVI.
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All news reports said the excommunication of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre was lifted by Pope Benedict XVI.
Okay Cera pay close attention to what I am asking you, " Please provide me with the Vatican docuмent that states the nullification or lifting of the excommunication of Archbishop Lefebvre ".
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Only the person himself gets to decide whether or not he's a sede.
He said Jorge Bergoglio is not the pope....need I say anything further?
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The last several were not pope because they denied Jesus Christ as the only way to God our Father in heaven.
Archbishop Lefebvre chose God instead of man. He was Catholic. May he rest in peace.
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All news reports said the excommunication of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre was lifted by Pope Benedict XVI.
Somewhere on this board there is a letter that Sean Johnson got as an answer to his inquiry from the Vatican, and it clearly says that the excommunication of Abp. Lefebvre was not lifted.
Actually, it seems impossible to me for it to happen, since you cannot "unexcommunicate" a dead person.
If the Vatican people were really honest, they would declare that the excommunications were null. This can logically be done regarding the deceased.
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All news reports said the excommunication of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre was lifted by Pope Benedict XVI.
Dear Cera
You should also realize that the lifting of the excommunications were only for the 4 bishops and also it was not a declaration of nullity. It only removed the punishment not the guilt. Read the docuмents from the Vatican, they are plain as day.
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The last several were not pope because they denied Jesus Christ as the only way to God our Father in heaven.
Archbishop Lefebvre chose God instead of man. He was Catholic. May he rest in peace.
What exactly are you trying to say?
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Somewhere on this board there is a letter that Sean Johnson got as an answer to his inquiry from the Vatican, and it clearly says that the excommunication of Abp. Lefebvre was not lifted.
Actually, it seems impossible to me for it to happen, since you cannot "unexcommunicate" a dead person.
If the Vatican people were really honest, they would declare that the excommunications were null. This can logically be done regarding the deceased.
I remember that, totally corresponds to the official Vatican docuмents.
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Only the person himself gets to decide whether or not he's a sede.
And Vigano has not called himself sede. In fact, he seems to avoid the S word.
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Okay Cera pay close attention to what I am asking you, " Please provide me with the Vatican docuмent that states the nullification or lifting of the excommunication of Archbishop Lefebvre ".
Ok Infirmus, play close attention to the title of the thread: "Vigano's Interesting Big Oops." As I said, all news reports said the excommunication of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre was lifted by Pope Benedict XVI, which may explain why Vigano thought this.
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What exactly are you trying to say?
What do you mean? Men said Archbishop Lefefevre was excommunicated if he was ever formerly charged. Archbishop Lefebvre was obeying God; not man.
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Ok Infirmus, play close attention to the title of the thread: "Vigano's Interesting Big Oops." As I said, all news reports said the excommunication of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre was lifted by Pope Benedict XVI, which may explain why Vigano thought this.
Vigano displays a high amount of intelligence, only an idiot would rely on the news instead of the actual docuмent.
Maybe it wasn’t an oops, maybe it was intentional.