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Offline Miser Peccator

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Re: +Vigano's Consecration to Our Lady of LaSalette
« Reply #45 on: June 04, 2023, 11:18:17 AM »
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  •  This interpretation seems very reasonable, since the devil, wanting to imitate the works of God, would place the seat of his vicar, who is the Antichrist, next to the seat of the Vicar of Christ."




    So what do we make of that demon worshipper in St Peter's then?
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: +Vigano's Consecration to Our Lady of LaSalette
    « Reply #46 on: June 04, 2023, 12:50:40 PM »
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  • Add Juan Diego, St John of the Cross, St Francis of Assisi, St Francis Xavier, St Joseph of Cupertino, St Charles Borromeo, St Philip Neri...

    No, not in the sense that we're discussing here, where they claimed to have received private revelations that are to be divulged to others.  We're not talking about saints who had mystical experiences, which is many if not most of them.


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    Re: +Vigano's Consecration to Our Lady of LaSalette
    « Reply #47 on: June 04, 2023, 03:32:59 PM »
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  • What a buffoon.  Did you even read Lamentabili, or Pius X's condemnation of those who dismiss Indexed works, or pay any heed to the fact that the book was written in obedience to her confessors, burnt twice, and recommenced three times, never of her own volition. The book was condemned in 1681 by Innocent XI, but execution was suspended for Spain. The Sorbonne or University of Paris did the same in 1696 by 102 votes of 152 after having had it examined by 132 doctors of theology.

    :facepalm:  We were talking about LaSalette.  St. Pius X didn't condemn it in that wall of text that you posted but didn't bother to read.  He was condemning something else, and condemning a priest for disobeying his bishop.

    As for Mary of Agreda ...

    1) The Sorbonne is not the Church.

    2) You do realize that the same Innocent XI himself lifted the "Prohibition", no?  Speaking of ignorant buffoonery.

    Initially, Innocent XI issued a Prohibition based solely on The Sorbonne's verdict, but then there was an outcry of protest, including from the King and Queen of Spain, and so Innocent XI lifted the Prohibition and ordered an independent study of the work.  At that point the Inquisition studied it and gave its full approval, as did numerous Popes, including ST. PIUS X.

    So make sure you know what you're actually talking about before engaging your (virtual) mouth.

    https://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/e082_Agreda.htm

    http://www.neemcog.com/OfficialPapalApproval.htm

    The Sorbonne was infested with Jansenists who were both Gallicans and, as most Jansenists, were vehemently opposed to what they considered excessive reverence for Our Lady, and they opposed the "Scotist" doctrine of the Immaculate Conception ... and on top of everything else, they issued the condemnation based on a very poor French translation that had been done by Jansenists.

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    Re: +Vigano's Consecration to Our Lady of LaSalette
    « Reply #48 on: November 20, 2023, 11:23:30 PM »
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  • Michael Matt's introduction references the famous "Rome will lose the faith" part of this revelation, but wasn't that part of LaSalette placed on the Index?
    Someone recently sent me this conference by Dr Peter Chojnowski. Listen from about 18:00.

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    Re: +Vigano's Consecration to Our Lady of LaSalette
    « Reply #49 on: November 21, 2023, 11:42:50 AM »
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  • Just as Jerusalem, the seat of the OT Church, became the seat of the antichrist, so too will Rome, the seat of the NT Church, become the seat of the antichrist.  The Jews crucified the physical body of Christ, and Catholics today are crucifying the Mystical Body of Christ.  The first pope, Peter, fled from Jerusalem to Rome; the last pope, Peter, will flee from Rome to Jerusalem.  The Temple was destroyed, and so too will St. Peter's be destroyed.  And what Catholic can deny that St. Peter's is worthy of this destruction?  The New Mass warrants this destruction a thousand times over.  In fact, the Church warrants a greater punishment than that meted out to the Jews, and this is a terrible truth.  

    I personally believe that God will allow most of the "cardinals" to be murdered.  I also believe that God will allow Rome to be nearly destroyed -perhaps ransacked by the Muslims or Commies.  
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    Re: +Vigano's Consecration to Our Lady of LaSalette
    « Reply #50 on: November 22, 2023, 11:54:20 AM »
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  • Veronica Lueken and Mary Ann Van Hoof come immediately to mind.

    I didn't think of Padre Pio.
    So do you believe Leuken and Van Hoof to be legitimate apparitions or mental delusions?

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    Re: +Vigano's Consecration to Our Lady of LaSalette
    « Reply #51 on: November 22, 2023, 03:22:17 PM »
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  • It is interesting to me how many of the writings of the mystics/apparitionists are or were actually condemned by the Church (e.g., Mary of Agreda, Ann Catherine Emmerich, Valtorta, Melanie, Sr. Faustina, et al.), which is why I don't get too much into them, except for the ones which time has proven true (e.g., Fatima, Lourdes).

    Re: Ann Catherine Emmerich
    Can someone point out where her works are or were condemned by the Church? Thank you
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    Re: +Vigano's Consecration to Our Lady of LaSalette
    « Reply #52 on: November 23, 2023, 04:19:16 PM »
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  • Someone recently sent me this conference by Dr Peter Chojnowski. Listen from about 18:00.

    Thank you PV for posting this. The entire talk was well worth listening to.
    Pray for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary