Interesting that everyone you name is a woman.  Just out of curiosity, do mystics and apparationists tend to be women (or, in the case of Fatima, children)?  That'd be something to ponder.

Put another way, how many of them have been men?  Only St Simon Stock comes to mind, as well as, of course, St Paul.

So why don't the words of St. Pius X apply to the Roman Congregations of today?  St. Pius X obviously meant that ... until Sean Johnson decides otherwise.  What's this "preconciliar" nonsense?  So the preconciliar Holy Office requires obedience but the later ones don't?  It's utterly ridiculous.

No one is "treating lightly" these condemnations, but if you read the material carefully, nowhere will you find any actual scrutiny and judgment about the contents of the Secret itself.  Almost every "docuмent" above deals with explanations, commentaries, unauthorized publications, etc.  There's only one reference in that entire wall of material requesting that Melanie stop distributing the pamphlet and "especially" any explanations of the Secret.  Seems to me that what's more at issue are interpretations, many of which tended to be un-nuanced anti-clerical and therefore anti-Catholic screeds.

There's nothing there denouncing the words of the Secret themselves as illegitimate.

Sean would be the ideal college campus manager of a Newman club.



The Present Eternal Position of Cardinal Newman

Question by The Point: What is it about John Henry Newman, English convert and Cardinal, that Catholics chiefly remember?
 Answer by Fr. Leonard Feeney: His mastery of English prose.

Q. What is it about John Henry Newman that Catholics of our day generally forget?
A. They forget, or never have been told of, his Jєωιѕн descent.

Q. If we Catholics were to bear in mind Newman’s real ancestry when we are appraising his literary ability, could we not then boast that we have had in our fold the greatest Jєωιѕн writer in the English language?
A. We could, except for the fact that there have been in the English language other Jєωιѕн writers, like Robert Browning, Max Beerbohm, and Philip Guedalla, who never once thought of joining the Catholic Church.

Q. Apart from his literary abilities, did not Newman make a good conversion to the Catholic Church?
A. He made a nostalgic conversion.

Q. What sort of conversion is that?
A. It is a conversion effected in a typical Old Testament manner, in which one is always sighing after the “flesh-pots” of things one has abandoned, and which in Newman’s case required an Apologia Pro Vita Sua, an apology for his own life, to justify.

Q. After his conversion, and his ordination to the priesthood, is it really true that Newman used often to forego theological studies and pastoral pursuits in order to devote more time to reading from the pagan Greeks?
A. Biographers disagree. Newman’s only comment in the matter was his repeated remark, “I shall never be a saint, for I love the pagan classics too intensely.”

Q. Did not the blood which he inherited, from the Jєωιѕн moneylender who was his father, allow Newman to bring to the Faith some of those same racial qualities possessed by the very earliest Christians, by Our Lord’s own Apostles and disciples?
A. The Jєωιѕн qualities which Newman brought to the Faith have been very tidily set in order by Canon William Barry, STD, the eminent English authority on Newman. Canon Barry reports that to Newman’s “Hebrew affinities” the following qualities are attributed: “ … his cast of features, his remarkable skill in music and mathematics, his dislike of metaphysical speculations, his grasp of the concrete, and his nervous temperament.”

Q. What was it that Newman called those fellow Catholics of his who, at the time of the Vatican Council, were in favor of having the Pope’s personal infallibility defined?
A. Newman nervously called them, “an aggressive and insolent faction.”

Q. Was this attitude toward the definition of Papal infallibility the reason why Pope Pius IX so totally mistrusted Newman?
A. It was one of the reasons.

Q. If Pope Pius IX so frowned upon him, why was Newman made a Cardinal?
A. Newman was made a Cardinal after Pope Pius IX died, when the Catholic Duke of Norfolk prevailed upon the newly installed Leo XIII to brighten the aged Newman’s final years with a red hat.

Q. Is it in England that Cardinal Newman’s spirit best survives today?
A. It is not. Modern Catholic Englishmen, without analyzing it, sense that Cardinal Newman was, religiously, the kind of interloper in their midst that Prime Minister Disraeli was politically.

Q. Where then have Newman’s name and fame been most perpetuated?
A. In America, in the form of clubs. Newman Clubs, they are called.

Q. What is a Newman Club?
A. It is an organized excuse for the presence, the sinful presence, of Catholic students at secular universities founded and fostered by Masons and, lately, indoctrinated by Jєωs.

Loudestmouth now disregards St. Pius X on Newman, Lamentabili, and the preconciliar Curia.

Good job, buddy!

What a buffoon.  Did you even read what was written by St. Pius X and Cardinal Merry del Val?  They explicitly said they weren't condemning the Secret, and the only work to which they referred were some Annals of Our Lady's Crusaders, a publication being circulated by the disobedient priest, and they were denouncing his refusal to obey his bishop.

The Church endures, as Our Lord established it, in spite of this human element. Does that not even provide an additional motive for credibility?

"The authority of the papacy is not founded upon the personal faith of any individual... The fact that the Pope cannot fail in this faith means that, even if he were personally a heretic, yet insofar as he teaches ex cathedra he cannot teach anything contrary to the faith. It is in this faith, therefore - which is the faith of the papacy, and not of the person, and which was the faith of Peter and his confession - in this alone the papacy is founded, and not in the personal faith even of the very person of the Pope." - John of St Thomas, Cursus Theologici II-II De Auctoritate Summi Ponfificis, Disp.II, Art.III, De Depositione Papae

Interesting that everyone you name is a woman.  Just out of curiosity, do mystics and apparationists tend to be women (or, in the case of Fatima, children)?  That'd be something to ponder.

Put another way, how many of them have been men?  Only St Simon Stock comes to mind, as well as, of course, St Paul.