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Offline finegan

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servitium: Williamson should start new Anglican branch
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2012, 04:57:33 PM »
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  • This guy "Servitium" always struck me as a self-inflated windbag who fancied himself as some sort of king-maker in traditional Catholic circles. He desperately wanted his forum to be taken seriously, so (like Rorate) he became an official mouthpiece for the leadership in Menzingen. Pathetic really.  :facepalm:

    Offline Kelley

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    servitium: Williamson should start new Anglican branch
    « Reply #16 on: July 25, 2012, 04:59:52 PM »
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  • John Grasmeier (servitium) is completely irrelevant.


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    servitium: Williamson should start new Anglican branch
    « Reply #17 on: July 25, 2012, 08:21:58 PM »
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  • Quote from: Anthony Benedict
    PS: I have not abandoned all hope for Serv's redux.  I don't get what he's done but we'll see what time ( and no doubt more stunning revelations ) bring 'round.

    I can forgive his personality flaws since I have many of my own. However, his guru-worship of authority coupled with the newly established AQ policy of forbidding critical facts about Fellay and company stand against the principle of truth (just like Fellay and company.)

    Offline Incredulous

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    servitium: Williamson should start new Anglican branch
    « Reply #18 on: July 25, 2012, 08:57:42 PM »
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    http://angelqueen.org/2012/07/24/bishop-williamson-get-rid-of-bishop-fellay/#comment-1996

    servitium says:
    July 25, 2012 at 11:03 AM...Your Excellency, you REALLY do not get it – DO YOU.


    I guess he's changed his mind.  Here is what serv wrote about +W a few years back:

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     Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:26 am    Post subject:    

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    Bishop Williamson is absolutely brilliant here. For anyone who hasn't had the pleasure of knowing him, this interview is a good starting point. This is him in his essence. He has a superb analytical mind and is one of the most decent Christian men you'll ever come across.

    One thing those watching this should take note of, is how His Excellency is honest and innocent to a fault, yet an evolved thinker; like some child-savant prodigy who can ace his SAT yet will talk to friends or strangers alike about anything asked of him. He's highly reasoned and intelligent, yet paradoxically, he's child-like as Christ demands. Notice how any question Heiner asks he handles with candor and maturity, without coming across as trying to say the right thing for posterity's sake, or tap dancing to what is politically demanded by his role in all of this. He simply says what he thinks, and thinks well.

    Stephen does a magnificent job of bringing him out and getting him into a mode that those who don't know His Excellency wouldn't normally see. It is of great credit to him that he was capable of getting Bishop Williamson in such a state his true character shows through in such a way.

     



    Columba... did you drink the Kool-aid ?
    Say its not so?
    Is this the same person?


    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    servitium: Williamson should start new Anglican branch
    « Reply #19 on: July 25, 2012, 09:01:12 PM »
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  • Quote from: finegan
    This guy "Servitium" always struck me as a self-inflated windbag who fancied himself as some sort of king-maker in traditional Catholic circles. He desperately wanted his forum to be taken seriously, so (like Rorate) he became an official mouthpiece for the leadership in Menzingen. Pathetic really.  :facepalm:


    Exactly...he's under the thumb of Menzingen now...a complete fool who went on a wild goose chase a number of years back in South America...I don't remember the details but he ended up looking like the idiot that he is.  The coward did a big unimportant hit piece on the deceased Father Malachi Martin, hoping to make a name for himself in Trad circles....he's a total loser.

    by the way...AQ has Menzingen written all over it.


    Offline Roman55

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    servitium: Williamson should start new Anglican branch
    « Reply #20 on: July 25, 2012, 09:01:36 PM »
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  • [/quote]


    Columba... did you drink the Kool-aid ?
    Say its not so?
    Is this the same person?


    [/quote]

    Well, it appears at least one has...."Don't worry guy's....It only has a tiny, tiny, drop of poison, but the rest is ALL GOOD!  ENJOY!"

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    servitium: Williamson should start new Anglican branch
    « Reply #21 on: July 25, 2012, 09:30:03 PM »
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  • "By their fruits ye shall know them." Isn't this the Society's mantra? Thus whoever runs a Traditional Catholic board should, ideally, demonstrate these fruits par excellance. While angry rants can be expected of posters from time to time, a forum owner wanting to be taken seriously as an authority in Traditional circles should act the part.

    Unfortunately some of the Traditional website owners simply cannot resist the temptation to succuмb to inordinate pride fueled by the false sense of virtual power they have in running a "forum" that only exists in the microns of the blogosphere.

    No matter what you think of BW, he is a Traditional Catholic bishop and deserves a little more respect for his office than is given in the OP. In addition, "Serv" is basically channeling verbatim BXVI's opinion on BW expressed in his controversial interviews of condom fame. Thus, his criticisms are not even original. And, as other posters have pointed out, Serv was apparently mesmerized by BW's genius as recently as '09. In fact, the irony is that if someone had posted Serv's 2012 rant about BW on AQ in 2009, they likely would have been "banned."

    This post sadly perpetuates the sort of megalomania emanating from AQ mods for some time. I have seen nothing but bad fruits from AQ, with rare exception. Mockery, sarcasm, and ridicule substitute for real discussion. And if one in good faith dares ask the "wrong" question there, I've seen them get banned. It is the sure sign of a coward to start permabanning everyone who holds a differing view. Someone who is confident in their convictions is not afraid to face counter argument and criticism. It is the tactic of the Neo-Catholic, who blindly appeals to authority, to silence all dissent with an iron fist. This is because they don't have the strength of the argument, but they do posess the power. Serv and others run their forums like Neo-Catholic tyrants no better than Abp. Muller who curtly dismissed Society claims he spoke heresy as "stupidities." If you can win by effectively silencing the other side, why bother debating? Fortunately for us, and all of those who dare disagree with "Serv", his silencing no longer works. AQ is no longer the only game in town and we can get our message out through other channels.

    In the end Serv and all Traditional Catholic forum owners need prayers as the temptation from the devil to pride is the easiest way he can strangle the fruits from an otherwise holy enterprise.

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    « Reply #22 on: July 26, 2012, 07:45:17 AM »
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  • BXVI from his book "Light of the World":

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    B. Williamson has no understanding of this institution because his conversion happened during the turmoil of the council, and he has never experienced "real" Catholicism, only crisis Catholicism...

    Williamson is an atypical case in that he was, when you think about, [sic] never Catholic in the proper sense. He was an Anglican and then went over directly to Lefebvre. This means that he has never lived in the great Church, that he has never lived with the Pope …


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    servitium: Williamson should start new Anglican branch
    « Reply #23 on: July 26, 2012, 08:17:03 AM »
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    John Grasmeier (servitium) is completely irrelevant.


    Who in the heck is John Grasmeier?




     :detective:




    P.S. Pure German family name and yet he hates us so badly...

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    servitium: Williamson should start new Anglican branch
    « Reply #24 on: July 26, 2012, 11:20:56 AM »
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  • I have it on good authority that AQ no longer exists, having been hacked and taken over by Catholic Answers.
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    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    servitium: Williamson should start new Anglican branch
    « Reply #25 on: July 26, 2012, 01:38:15 PM »
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  • There is way too much game playing and secrets within novus ordo and the obviously the SSPX.  Christ and our Catholic faith is about  the truth.  Father Williams is straight forward and tells it like it is per his newsletters that I receive.
    It was not very Christian to ostracize Bishop Williamson from the general chapter meeting.  Usually, meetings are supposed to productive and give everyone a chance to voice their opinions and ideas.  

     
    May God bless you and keep you


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    « Reply #26 on: July 26, 2012, 06:46:06 PM »
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  • Perhaps someone with posting privileges on AQ could remind Servitium of his previous thoughts about Bishop Williamson and see what he says....   :smile:
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #27 on: July 27, 2012, 08:11:02 AM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund
    Perhaps someone with posting privileges on AQ could remind Servitium of his previous thoughts about Bishop Williamson and see what he says....   :smile:


    Take it from me, servitium is a waste of time. The only thing someone with
    posting privileges could achieve by reminding him of something he wants to forget
    is, losing their posting privileges. Come to think of it .......... so what? HAHAHAHA
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