Author Topic: Video about new SSPX seminary (Read 8590 times)

Matthew · « **on:** October 21, 2012, 01:08:23 PM »

http://www.gloria.tv/?media=348745

Matthew · « **Reply #1 on:** October 21, 2012, 01:39:11 PM »

It's amazing that they have so many seminarians, particularly when one of the qualifications nowadays is being a Phlegmatic. :wink:

Fr. Wood certainly seems like a Phlegmatic temperament.

If you don't know the 4 Temperaments, go ahead and Google it. Among other things, Phlegmatic usually entails "passive" and "not a fighter".

He is a classic example of what I speak of when I say, "The new type of Priest the SSPX is looking for".

I kind of feel sorry for his students...we had some really interesting professors when I was there, but I honestly couldn't imagine Fr. Wood keeping the students awake very easily...

1st Mansion Tenant · « **Reply #2 on:** October 21, 2012, 01:50:28 PM »

Wow, that is a beautifully done video. I made me hopeful. Thanks

Alex117 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 21, 2012, 01:54:37 PM »

I want to be happy about the new seminary, but it's still not clear what the future holds for the Society. It would be such a waste to place this beautiful new seminary into the hands of Modernist Rome.

stgobnait · « **Reply #4 on:** October 21, 2012, 01:59:01 PM »

they should look for somewhere like stepford.......

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 21, 2012, 02:22:53 PM »

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When I went to the video, I get a long message starting with
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bowler · « **Reply #6 on:** October 21, 2012, 05:46:01 PM »

The Neo-SSPX is living in a dream world. The world is about to collapse ecomomically and politically and they are building monuments. They have lost all sense of reality.

That new seminary in Virginia that they are contemplating, will cost in my estimation more than the $60 million (how much more who knows. Where do the craftsmen come from to build an 1800's building ?). If they realized like all real Catholics do, that we are in war mode for the last 50 years, they would stay in Winona and put six students per room in bunk beds if necessary, and any other means of "making do".

This new seminary is the French Maginot Line mentality all over again. They think they can save tradition with fixed fortifications. If they do somehow build it, someone will come along and take it from them for free, just like they took the Maginot Line in a few days.

"Fixed fortifications are monuments to man's stupidity,” George S. Patton, Jr

bowler · « **Reply #7 on:** October 21, 2012, 05:59:57 PM »

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This new seminary is the French Maginot Line mentality all over again. They think they can save tradition with fixed fortifications. If they do somehow build it, someone will come along and take it from them for free, just like they took the Maginot Line in a few days.

"Fixed fortifications are monuments to man's stupidity,” George S. Patton, Jr

They can take everything material that you have, but they can't take what is in your heart, mind, soul. The important thing about a seminary is the formation of priests. They can't take the priesthood from a priest once he is ordained. Buildings they can all take.

Just look at all the SSPX chapels. Practically all of them were paid for and started as independent chapels, and eventually they were "bartered" over to the SSPX in exchange for an SSPX priest who would fly in once a week. Now, the Neo-SSPX is throwing out the people who built the churches. Buildings they can take, but they can't take what is inside of you. Wise men do not build monuments while they are in the middle of a war.. The Spaniards defended Toledo from undernieth the rubble.

Zorayda · « **Reply #8 on:** October 21, 2012, 08:44:01 PM »

They form priests only to throw them out? $25 million just for classrooms for what new doctrines?

Fr. Asher said in NYC that no matter how much money they throw at the building, if it's not God's will it won't happen.

Look, I've renovated my own home & added here & there. Don't tell me that they can't add onto what they have now.

The Faith is the legacy that you leave behind, not grand buildings. If they are going to form "conformist" type of priests then this whole project is pointless. They should address their own crisis first & return to Tradition before they expand!

padrepio · « **Reply #9 on:** October 21, 2012, 09:45:20 PM »

"It's amazing that they have so many seminarians, particularly when one of the qualifications nowadays is being a Phlegmatic."

We noticed that too. Hoping the Good Lord and His Holy Mother are saving the best for last (or the new restoration).

1st Mansion Tenant · « **Reply #10 on:** October 22, 2012, 02:31:46 AM »

Wow , you guys have made some really good points. I was really inspired by the video, of doing something seemingly great for God. But after reading the other comments, I realize that was what the video was scripted for: to inspire me with zeal to reach into my bank account. Much of what the members have said above sounds much more sensible at this point.

1531 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 22, 2012, 03:04:14 AM »

Quote from: Zorayda

They form priests only to throw them out? $25 million just for classrooms for what new doctrines?

Fr. Asher said in NYC that no matter how much money they throw at the building, if it's not God's will it won't happen.

Look, I've renovated my own home & added here & there. Don't tell me that they can't add onto what they have now.

The Faith is the legacy that you leave behind, not grand buildings. If they are going to form "conformist" type of priests then this whole project is pointless. They should address their own crisis first & return to Tradition before they expand!

Yes, this is rather like Spain at present. There is a chapel in Madrid, just one belonging to the SSPX, but now, WITH FALLING NUMBERS of faithful, they want to spend 7million euros on building a new chapel. Why? There is just one priory in Spain, at least 20 miles outside Madrid. Spain is the only country I know of that has never tried to set up any other priories around Spain. They even closed down the one in Portugal some years back. They can't say they don't have enough priests... they have 6 at the priory. They take it in turns to motor around the country to say masses in various towns, then go back to the priory and that's it! One of the priests goes to Portugal once a month.

Wy not use the money to either set up a couple of new chapels in Spain, or an extra priory? Other tradional groups are growing in Spain, from what I have heard, but not our SSPX. Sad...

Wessex · « **Reply #12 on:** October 22, 2012, 05:19:53 AM »

Could be the dream of some wealthy benefactor. In an age of redundant religious buildings all over the place, the Society may not seem to believe in economy. But establishing a distinct brand and style for the niche it hopes to occupy when regularised one day costs a lot of money. Its finances are a mystery but the laity are never generally involved in future plans and are mere bystanders.

Columba · « **Reply #13 on:** October 22, 2012, 10:58:15 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

It's amazing that they have so many seminarians, particularly when one of the qualifications nowadays is being a Phlegmatic. :wink:

Fr. Wood certainly seems like a Phlegmatic temperament.

If you don't know the 4 Temperaments, go ahead and Google it. Among other things, Phlegmatic usually entails "passive" and "not a fighter".

He is a classic example of what I speak of when I say, "The new type of Priest the SSPX is looking for".

I kind of feel sorry for his students...we had some really interesting professors when I was there, but I honestly couldn't imagine Fr. Wood keeping the students awake very easily...

Wow! I just watched the video. That Fr. Wood is downright scary.

Matthew · « **Reply #14 on:** October 23, 2012, 12:09:06 AM »

I think Fr. Wood entered the Seminary in 2003 -- so he never got to study under Bishop Williamson, not even for a day. Fr. Yves Le Roux all the way.

I'm surprised by the number of professors that I knew as seminarians. I wasn't there THAT long ago! :)

Fr. Asher I can understand, because he was in his mid 30's when he was ordained. But these young guys? Don't they have someone a bit older to FORM future priests?

Maybe because all the older SSPX priests were formed by Bishop Williamson, and Menzingen doesn't want them creating any spiritual grand-children for the good Bishop?

Once again, just like with importing French priests into the country to serve in leadership roles, etc. you have the SSPX "powers that be" practically denying the existence of a huge swath of priests -- because they've been "tainted" by Bishop Williamson's influence.

So as far as they're concerned, they only have a couple graduating years of priests to work with, at least for the English-speaking world.