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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => Topic started by: Matthew on October 21, 2012, 01:08:23 PM
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http://www.gloria.tv/?media=348745
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It's amazing that they have so many seminarians, particularly when one of the qualifications nowadays is being a Phlegmatic. :wink:
Fr. Wood certainly seems like a Phlegmatic temperament.
If you don't know the 4 Temperaments, go ahead and Google it. Among other things, Phlegmatic usually entails "passive" and "not a fighter".
He is a classic example of what I speak of when I say, "The new type of Priest the SSPX is looking for".
I kind of feel sorry for his students...we had some really interesting professors when I was there, but I honestly couldn't imagine Fr. Wood keeping the students awake very easily...
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Wow, that is a beautifully done video. I made me hopeful. Thanks
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I want to be happy about the new seminary, but it's still not clear what the future holds for the Society. It would be such a waste to place this beautiful new seminary into the hands of Modernist Rome.
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they should look for somewhere like stepford.......
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It looks like the video has been removed.
It's playing for me.
It could be that my server may be blocking some of my programs.
When I went to the video, I get a long message starting with
video not found:http://media-monika gloriatv and so on.
It would not allow me to copy the whole message, nor a snap shot
of the screen to prove what I said.
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The Neo-SSPX is living in a dream world. The world is about to collapse ecomomically and politically and they are building monuments. They have lost all sense of reality.
That new seminary in Virginia that they are contemplating, will cost in my estimation more than the $60 million (how much more who knows. Where do the craftsmen come from to build an 1800's building ?). If they realized like all real Catholics do, that we are in war mode for the last 50 years, they would stay in Winona and put six students per room in bunk beds if necessary, and any other means of "making do".
This new seminary is the French Maginot Line mentality all over again. They think they can save tradition with fixed fortifications. If they do somehow build it, someone will come along and take it from them for free, just like they took the Maginot Line in a few days.
"Fixed fortifications are monuments to man's stupidity,” George S. Patton, Jr
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This new seminary is the French Maginot Line mentality all over again. They think they can save tradition with fixed fortifications. If they do somehow build it, someone will come along and take it from them for free, just like they took the Maginot Line in a few days.
"Fixed fortifications are monuments to man's stupidity,” George S. Patton, Jr
They can take everything material that you have, but they can't take what is in your heart, mind, soul. The important thing about a seminary is the formation of priests. They can't take the priesthood from a priest once he is ordained. Buildings they can all take.
Just look at all the SSPX chapels. Practically all of them were paid for and started as independent chapels, and eventually they were "bartered" over to the SSPX in exchange for an SSPX priest who would fly in once a week. Now, the Neo-SSPX is throwing out the people who built the churches. Buildings they can take, but they can't take what is inside of you. Wise men do not build monuments while they are in the middle of a war.. The Spaniards defended Toledo from undernieth the rubble.
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They form priests only to throw them out? $25 million just for classrooms for what new doctrines?
Fr. Asher said in NYC that no matter how much money they throw at the building, if it's not God's will it won't happen.
Look, I've renovated my own home & added here & there. Don't tell me that they can't add onto what they have now.
The Faith is the legacy that you leave behind, not grand buildings. If they are going to form "conformist" type of priests then this whole project is pointless. They should address their own crisis first & return to Tradition before they expand!
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"It's amazing that they have so many seminarians, particularly when one of the qualifications nowadays is being a Phlegmatic."
We noticed that too. Hoping the Good Lord and His Holy Mother are saving the best for last (or the new restoration).
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Wow , you guys have made some really good points. I was really inspired by the video, of doing something seemingly great for God. But after reading the other comments, I realize that was what the video was scripted for: to inspire me with zeal to reach into my bank account. Much of what the members have said above sounds much more sensible at this point.
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They form priests only to throw them out? $25 million just for classrooms for what new doctrines?
Fr. Asher said in NYC that no matter how much money they throw at the building, if it's not God's will it won't happen.
Look, I've renovated my own home & added here & there. Don't tell me that they can't add onto what they have now.
The Faith is the legacy that you leave behind, not grand buildings. If they are going to form "conformist" type of priests then this whole project is pointless. They should address their own crisis first & return to Tradition before they expand!
Yes, this is rather like Spain at present. There is a chapel in Madrid, just one belonging to the SSPX, but now, WITH FALLING NUMBERS of faithful, they want to spend 7million euros on building a new chapel. Why? There is just one priory in Spain, at least 20 miles outside Madrid. Spain is the only country I know of that has never tried to set up any other priories around Spain. They even closed down the one in Portugal some years back. They can't say they don't have enough priests... they have 6 at the priory. They take it in turns to motor around the country to say masses in various towns, then go back to the priory and that's it! One of the priests goes to Portugal once a month.
Wy not use the money to either set up a couple of new chapels in Spain, or an extra priory? Other tradional groups are growing in Spain, from what I have heard, but not our SSPX. Sad...
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Could be the dream of some wealthy benefactor. In an age of redundant religious buildings all over the place, the Society may not seem to believe in economy. But establishing a distinct brand and style for the niche it hopes to occupy when regularised one day costs a lot of money. Its finances are a mystery but the laity are never generally involved in future plans and are mere bystanders.
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It's amazing that they have so many seminarians, particularly when one of the qualifications nowadays is being a Phlegmatic. :wink:
Fr. Wood certainly seems like a Phlegmatic temperament.
If you don't know the 4 Temperaments, go ahead and Google it. Among other things, Phlegmatic usually entails "passive" and "not a fighter".
He is a classic example of what I speak of when I say, "The new type of Priest the SSPX is looking for".
I kind of feel sorry for his students...we had some really interesting professors when I was there, but I honestly couldn't imagine Fr. Wood keeping the students awake very easily...
Wow! I just watched the video. That Fr. Wood is downright scary.
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I think Fr. Wood entered the Seminary in 2003 -- so he never got to study under Bishop Williamson, not even for a day. Fr. Yves Le Roux all the way.
I'm surprised by the number of professors that I knew as seminarians. I wasn't there THAT long ago! :)
Fr. Asher I can understand, because he was in his mid 30's when he was ordained. But these young guys? Don't they have someone a bit older to FORM future priests?
Maybe because all the older SSPX priests were formed by Bishop Williamson, and Menzingen doesn't want them creating any spiritual grand-children for the good Bishop?
Once again, just like with importing French priests into the country to serve in leadership roles, etc. you have the SSPX "powers that be" practically denying the existence of a huge swath of priests -- because they've been "tainted" by Bishop Williamson's influence.
So as far as they're concerned, they only have a couple graduating years of priests to work with, at least for the English-speaking world.
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Didn't Our Lady of Fatima say something about the remnant of the Church always surviving in Portugal until the end of the world? I would think then, they would want a priory there. :scratchchin:
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They interview these priests at the seminary as though they were in charge of the decision-making.
It's an ad campaign.
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As others have said, a new dormitory could easily be built in Winona for a tiny fraction of the cost.
This new seminary is intended to raise the profile of the society politically.
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There is something quite comical in claiming that they are spending tens of millions of dollars so the seminarians can have peace and quiet.
I recall a paper being sent around showing how much was spent each year per seminarian on food and lodging. A very paltry amount.
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In no way do I intend to denigrate the generosity of those who have contributed to the project.
As Zorayda pointed out, it's not the buildings that matter. Nearly all the buildings were lost to the conciliarists.
If the SSPX were about buildings, regularization would quickly solve that problem.
The SSPX wasnt founded for impressive buildings, or "culture" (like being close to DC), warm weather, or impressing people from DC.
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It's amazing that they have so many seminarians, particularly when one of the qualifications nowadays is being a Phlegmatic. :wink:
Fr. Wood certainly seems like a Phlegmatic temperament.
If you don't know the 4 Temperaments, go ahead and Google it. Among other things, Phlegmatic usually entails "passive" and "not a fighter".
He is a classic example of what I speak of when I say, "The new type of Priest the SSPX is looking for".
I kind of feel sorry for his students...we had some really interesting professors when I was there, but I honestly couldn't imagine Fr. Wood keeping the students awake very easily...
One anecdote to the claim that the new seminarians (After Bp. Fellay removed +W as the Rector) are different than the older say, 2000 ~ 2005 seminary classes:
1. Around the summer of 2005, a group of Winona seminarians came and ran the SSPX boys camp, in my town, for two weeks.
A. 90 boys... most of them undisciplined, acting silly and goofing around the first days, even in Mass. During the following 2-weeks, they were rigously exercised and disciplined. Any trouble, the seminarians or their aids came up and said:"Hey young man... get down and give me 10 push-ups, now!".
B. By the end of the 2-weeks, the boys behaved like a military unit.
They walked in, straight single file into Church. Almost all of them looked straight ahead and followed the Mass with their missals.
They were pious when returning from the Communion rail to their pews.
The improvement in behavior was startling.
2. Around the summer of 2009, another group of Winona seminarians came and ran the boys camp, for two weeks.
A. Approximately 85 boys... undisciplined, acting silly and goofing-off the first days, even in Mass. During the following 12 days, they were not rigously disciplined.
B. The kids lacked piety at Mass from day one to the last day. I attended Mass with them and was shocked the see the seminarians not disciplining them?
I noticed one of the older seminarians, a deacon had "fixed" his hair and was using a cell-phone at the camp.
This didn't seem right. I thought these guys weren't as masculine in their supervisory duties as the 2005 seminarians.
To cross-check myself, to see if I was imagining things, I had a chance
to talk to the visiting older priest in charge of the camp and I commented
about the boys' demeanor at Mass.
The priest confirmed my comments by saying they had many problems at
that camp. He was dissatisfied with both the boys & seminarians.
Conclusion:
The newer camp seminarians were basically light-weights and reflected the new men coming out of the post +Williamson era seminary.
Their relaxed discipline wasn't by accident.
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You know, the more I think about this, the more ridiculous it seems.
It's not like they're in the middle of the city right now or anything. I WAS THERE. I know how beautiful and vast their current plot of land is. You feel completely isolated from the world, though if you get in a car you can take a short drive to town for necessities. A perfect mix.
The existing seminary is VERY, VERY conducive to a good formation. All other things being equal of course! (In other words, they might have OTHER problems now, but seminary location isn't one of them)
The current seminary has their own WOODS you can hike in and everything. The grounds and surrounding (country) land are quite beautiful.
A sane solution would be to build more living quarters on the existing land.
I think they're trying to get international attention with this monument they're trying to build.
And remember my other thread about "success" -- how many young women will have to be encouraged to go to college to help pay for this $60 million dollar behemoth? How many young men will be encouraged to join the US Military?
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It's amazing that they have so many seminarians, particularly when one of the qualifications nowadays is being a Phlegmatic. :wink:
Fr. Wood certainly seems like a Phlegmatic temperament.
If you don't know the 4 Temperaments, go ahead and Google it. Among other things, Phlegmatic usually entails "passive" and "not a fighter".
He is a classic example of what I speak of when I say, "The new type of Priest the SSPX is looking for".
I kind of feel sorry for his students...we had some really interesting professors when I was there, but I honestly couldn't imagine Fr. Wood keeping the students awake very easily...
One anecdote to the claim that the new seminarians (After Bp. Fellay removed +W as the Rector) are different than the older say, 2000 ~ 2005 seminary classes:
1. Around the summer of 2005, a group of Winona seminarians came and ran the SSPX boys camp, in my town, for two weeks.
A. 90 boys... most of them undisciplined, acting silly and goofing around the first days, even in Mass. During the following 2-weeks, they were rigously exercised and disciplined. Any trouble, the seminarians or their aids came up and said:"Hey young man... get down and give me 10 push-ups, now!".
B. By the end of the 2-weeks, the boys behaved like a military unit.
They walked in, straight single file into Church. Almost all of them looked straight ahead and followed the Mass with their missals. They were pious when returning from the Communion rail to their pews.
The improvement in behavior was startling.
2. Around the summer of 2009, another group of Winona seminarians came and ran the boys camp, for two weeks.
A. Approximately 85 boys... undisciplined, acting silly and goofing-off the first days, even in Mass. During the following 12 days, they were not rigously disciplined.
B. The kids lacked piety at Mass from day one to the last day. I attended Mass with them and was shocked the see the seminarians not disciplining them?
I noticed one of the older seminarians, a deacon had "fixed" his hair and was using a cell-phone at the camp.
This didn't seem right. I thought these guys weren't as masculine in their supervisory duties as the 2005 seminarians.
To cross-check myself, to see if I was imagining things, I had a chance
to talk to the visiting older priest in charge of the camp and I commented
about the boys' demeanor at Mass.
The priest confirmed my comments by saying they had many problems at
that camp. He was dissatisfied with both the boys & seminarians.
Conclusion:
The newer camp seminarians were basically light-weights and reflected the new men coming out of the post +Williamson era seminary.
Their relaxed discipline wasn't by accident.
It's hard to argue with facts!
Indeed -- it takes a man to make MEN. Bishop Williamson is a real man as well as a faithful Bishop of the Catholic Church. He knows the way to manhood, being as he is presently there himself.
In fact, +W often taught us how women, no matter how well-intentioned, CANNOT raise boys and turn them into men. A MAN is needed to help a boy into manhood. No exceptions.
A cursory glance at +W's words and actions over the past years show the kind of virile man that he is. No wonder his seminarians knew how to be men -- and train other young boys to be men as well.
Manliness is passed on.
One of my favorite sayings, which I learned from the good Bishop:
Nemo dat quod non habet
No one gives what he doesn't have.
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If the Communist leadership of the Society were really interested in forming
good priests, they wouldn't be Communist. They wouldn't be expelling
their best seminary rector. I knew something was amiss when they sent
+Williamson packing to Argentina years ago.
Winona isn't politically expedient in its very location. And, top it off with the
fact that priestly formation is way low on the list of priorities, and there you have it.
When a CTLM independent community sends their young men to an SSPX
seminary they are categorically downtrodden because they're not from an SSPX
chapel, but from an independent chapel. They say 'independent' with a
French sneer in their voice, and hearing this day in and day out, the men under
suspicion end up abandoning the quest for their vocation.
This happens again and again.
But did it happen under +Williamson?? I think not. Correct me if I'm wrong, but
this could well be one of the main reasons they want +W out, because he would
not foster this elitist cultism of the Fellayites.
Reactions, please??
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If the Communist leadership of the Society were really interested in forming
good priests, they wouldn't be Communist. They wouldn't be expelling
their best seminary rector. I knew something was amiss when they sent
+Williamson packing to Argentina years ago.
Winona isn't politically expedient in its very location. And, top it off with the
fact that priestly formation is way low on the list of priorities, and there you have it.
When a CTLM independent community sends their young men to an SSPX
seminary they are categorically downtrodden because they're not from an SSPX
chapel, but from an independent chapel. They say 'independent' with a
French sneer in their voice, and hearing this day in and day out, the men under
suspicion end up abandoning the quest for their vocation.
This happens again and again.
But did it happen under +Williamson?? I think not. Correct me if I'm wrong, but
this could well be one of the main reasons they want +W out, because he would
not foster this elitist cultism of the Fellayites.
Reactions, please??
You can be absolutely certain the new crop of priests will not have the wherewithal and zeal of men like Fathers Pfeiffer and Chazal. Let's get real, they are a breed apart. This is why despite their small start, the SSPX is afraid of them.
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You know, the more I think about this, the more ridiculous it seems.
It's not like they're in the middle of the city right now or anything. I WAS THERE. I know how beautiful and vast their current plot of land is. You feel completely isolated from the world, though if you get in a car you can take a short drive to town for necessities. A perfect mix.
The existing seminary is VERY, VERY conducive to a good formation. All other things being equal of course! (In other words, they might have OTHER problems now, but seminary location isn't one of them)
The current seminary has their own WOODS you can hike in and everything. The grounds and surrounding (country) land are quite beautiful.
A sane solution would be to build more living quarters on the existing land.
I think they're trying to get international attention with this monument they're trying to build.
And remember my other thread about "success" -- how many young women will have to be encouraged to go to college to help pay for this $60 million dollar behemoth? How many young men will be encouraged to join the US Military?
This all very true. I visited the seminary myself. They are up in the hills and away from the town. They have plenty of building space but it is in flyover country, away from where the jet set congregates. It is deceptive to say that space is the reason for moving the seminary.
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it reminds me of a fairytale... 'the emperor's new clothe's' all style... and no substance.... :sad:
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Excellent observations in this thread. It looks like every person contributed something enlightening, coming from their different experiences and backgrounds.
This thread went from an advertising for the new seminary, to a thorough exposure (shining a light on) of the change in the SSPX's mindest with regard to what a seminary is for, and how a priest is prepared there.
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That new seminary in Virginia that they are contemplating, will cost in my estimation more than the $60 million (how much more who knows. Where do the craftsmen come from to build an 1800's building ?).
Maybe the money will come from Rome, in exchange for an accord?
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That new seminary in Virginia that they are contemplating, will cost in my estimation more than the $60 million (how much more who knows. Where do the craftsmen come from to build an 1800's building ?).
Maybe the money will come from Rome, in exchange for an accord?
Rome was about to file for bankruptcy not long ago and therefore they're broke; however, the people who really govern them since Vatican II have plenty of money and power to play and buy many disgraceful traitors for the bargain of 30 silver coins.
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i288/mafiaazulusa/SSPX%20Crisis/10hp0013_zps5d99ee47.jpg)
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That new seminary in Virginia that they are contemplating, will cost in my estimation more than the $60 million (how much more who knows. Where do the craftsmen come from to build an 1800's building ?).
Maybe the money will come from Rome, in exchange for an accord?
American donors should save their money or send it to the Fr. Pfeiffer and Bp. Williamson.
+Fellay can get funding from Krah's buddies by agreeing to put a h0Ɩ0h0αx memorial on the premises.
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http://www.gloria.tv/?media=348745
Watching this video made me realize why the same demonic forces who gave us Vatican II would spare no effort to bring us another "Vatican II" within the SSPX. A project of this scale and potential importance would be too much of a threat to the well-planned decline of the Church in the world. It had to be brought down. And brought down it is being.
The planned architecture is so stunning it briefly stops the heart and gives one a gasp for air.
Very sad, but any traditionalist giving a penny to this project should have his head examined.
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http://www.gloria.tv/?media=348745
Watching this video made me realize why the same demonic forces who gave us Vatican II would spare no effort to bring us another "Vatican II" within the SSPX. A project of this scale and potential importance would be too much of a threat to the well-planned decline of the Church in the world. It had to be brought down. And brought down it is being.
The planned architecture is so stunning it briefly stops the heart and gives one a gasp for air.
Very sad, but any traditionalist giving a penny to this project should have his head examined.
Do you really find it so nice?
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http://www.gloria.tv/?media=348745
Watching this video made me realize why the same demonic forces who gave us Vatican II would spare no effort to bring us another "Vatican II" within the SSPX. A project of this scale and potential importance would be too much of a threat to the well-planned decline of the Church in the world. It had to be brought down. And brought down it is being.
The planned architecture is so stunning it briefly stops the heart and gives one a gasp for air.
Very sad, but any traditionalist giving a penny to this project should have his head examined.
Do you really find it so nice?
Well certainly I love the architecture. That is not necessarily a religious conclusion but more an aesthetic one. Also I like the idea of big and bold traditional Catholicism projecting itself confidently into hostile post-modernist US territory. There is not necessarily anything particularly noble about being in the catacombs when the true faith needs to be openly and confidently professed. This would be a real marker for the continued development of traditional Catholicism. As it stands now, I would not bet on a single thing coming from it.
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Well certainly I love the architecture. That is not necessarily a religious conclusion but more an aesthetic one. Also I like the idea of big and bold traditional Catholicism projecting itself confidently into hostile post-modernist US territory. There is not necessarily anything particularly noble about being in the catacombs when the true faith needs to be openly and confidently professed. This would be a real marker for the continued development of traditional Catholicism. As it stands now, I would not bet on a single thing coming from it.
I like traditional architecture too. As poor as the results of revivalism could be at times, they were often spectacular. However, in this case, it's overdone. Particularly all the round towers.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-V6lx6-DAK5s/Tsqfc2Y5KVI/AAAAAAAAAQQ/HYvlyfK9XzM/s1600/seminary.jpg
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What are they trying to do, have a central tower like Mainz or Cluny, only it's too thin.
They could build something like this Trappist Monastery, only with a nicer chapel.
http://www.offenburger.com/guestpaper.asp?link=20090519
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I like traditional architecture too. As poor as the results of revivalism could be at times, they were often spectacular. However, in this case, it's overdone. Particularly all the round towers.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-V6lx6-DAK5s/Tsqfc2Y5KVI/AAAAAAAAAQQ/HYvlyfK9XzM/s1600/seminary.jpg
Oh you are correct. I suppose I am just starving for any hint of past architectural glories. Those round towers are ghastly.
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Well certainly I love the architecture. That is not necessarily a religious conclusion but more an aesthetic one. Also I like the idea of big and bold traditional Catholicism projecting itself confidently into hostile post-modernist US territory. There is not necessarily anything particularly noble about being in the catacombs when the true faith needs to be openly and confidently professed. This would be a real marker for the continued development of traditional Catholicism. As it stands now, I would not bet on a single thing coming from it.
I like traditional architecture too. As poor as the results of revivalism could be at times, they were often spectacular. However, in this case, it's overdone. Particularly all the round towers.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-V6lx6-DAK5s/Tsqfc2Y5KVI/AAAAAAAAAQQ/HYvlyfK9XzM/s1600/seminary.jpg
Those round towers resemble the Disney castle.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Cinderella_Castle.jpg/250px-Cinderella_Castle.jpg)
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And let's pray they don't end up teaching Mickey's hybrid Mass there.
(http://www.hot-toysforkids.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/dance-star-mickey-mouse.jpg)
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It's amazing that they have so many seminarians, particularly when one of the qualifications nowadays is being a Phlegmatic. :wink:
Fr. Wood certainly seems like a Phlegmatic temperament.
If you don't know the 4 Temperaments, go ahead and Google it. Among other things, Phlegmatic usually entails "passive" and "not a fighter".
He is a classic example of what I speak of when I say, "The new type of Priest the SSPX is looking for".
I kind of feel sorry for his students...we had some really interesting professors when I was there, but I honestly couldn't imagine Fr. Wood keeping the students awake very easily...
Wow! I just watched the video. That Fr. Wood is downright scary.
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I agree!
If he's an example of a typical phlegmatic then it must be difficult to distinguish them from ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs.
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http://www.gloria.tv/?media=348745
Quite a bit different than this one, huh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktaA-2GBFnI
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This is what has me scratching my head ...
1.) We are on the verge of an economic crash. Please correct me if I am being rash.
2.) They (the legal representatives for Menzingen) have reported that the seminary project is being financed by a certain family fund (and we are talking millions of dollars).
3.) Fr Rostand sent out a Christmas letter in an attempt to finesse more money out of Traditional Catholic families, even going so far as to suggest how much they could send based upon a "survey". :facepalm:
4.) And last, but not least, somewhere it was stated that they have 200 acres available at the Winona seminary. If this is indeed true, then something is rotten in Denmark and it gets stinkier all the time.
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This is what has me scratching my head ...
1.) We are on the verge of an economic crash. Please correct me if I am being rash.
2.) They (the legal representatives for Menzingen) have reported that the seminary project is being financed by a certain family fund (and we are talking millions of dollars).
3.) Fr Rostand sent out a Christmas letter in an attempt to finesse more money out of Traditional Catholic families, even going so far as to suggest how much they could send based upon a "survey". :facepalm:
4.) And last, but not least, somewhere it was stated that they have 200 acres available at the Winona seminary. If this is indeed true, then something is rotten in Denmark and it gets stinkier all the time.
Regarding #1 -- You are absolutely correct. Anyone who thinks we're not in a Depression or a serious downturn has his head firmly planted in the sand.
Regarding #2 -- I wonder who provided those millions of dollars.
Regarding #4 -- it's not a rumor, it's true. I was there. They have lots of acreage, both cleared and wooded, at Winona. Plenty of space for an addition.
I realize that adding on to the seminary building ITSELF would have issues -- bringing up the whole building to 2012 "building code". But many colleges have dealt with this very issue by building separate buildings when they add square footage to their complex.
They should do the same in Winona.
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The new seminary ?
Why its a wonderful thing!
(http://parksandresorts.wdpromedia.com/media/dvc_v0500/prospects/mediaplayer/destinations/disney/slides/other-disney-destinations-overview-01-v1.jpg)
Winona... its in the back-woods.
The Conciliarists want to show-off their trad "high church" seminary within driving distance of the US seat of power, Washington DC.
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Yes, this is rather like Spain at present. There is a chapel in Madrid, just one belonging to the SSPX, but now, WITH FALLING NUMBERS of faithful, they want to spend 7million euros on building a new chapel. Why? There is just one priory in Spain, at least 20 miles outside Madrid. Spain is the only country I know of that has never tried to set up any other priories around Spain. They even closed down the one in Portugal some years back. They can't say they don't have enough priests... they have 6 at the priory. They take it in turns to motor around the country to say masses in various towns, then go back to the priory and that's it! One of the priests goes to Portugal once a month.
Wy not use the money to either set up a couple of new chapels in Spain, or an extra priory? Other tradional groups are growing in Spain, from what I have heard, but not our SSPX. Sad...[/quote]
That's sad to read as this is to some extent what I am seeing in Latin America. It almost seems like somewhere in management there are subtle moves being taken to hinder growth. There are some brave priest here also and I can't state what I have stated without also acknowledging that the FSSPX is now visiting Cuba, Nicaragua, and even recently Honduras. Surprisingly, it's the same brave priest visiting all these countries and a few others so I worry about what the next generations will do.
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It's amazing that they have so many seminarians, particularly when one of the qualifications nowadays is being a Phlegmatic. :wink:
Fr. Wood certainly seems like a Phlegmatic temperament.
If you don't know the 4 Temperaments, go ahead and Google it. Among other things, Phlegmatic usually entails "passive" and "not a fighter".
He is a classic example of what I speak of when I say, "The new type of Priest the SSPX is looking for".
I kind of feel sorry for his students...we had some really interesting professors when I was there, but I honestly couldn't imagine Fr. Wood keeping the students awake very easily...
Wow! I just watched the video. That Fr. Wood is downright scary.
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I agree!
If he's an example of a typical phlegmatic then it must be difficult to distinguish them from ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs.
A totally worthless and offensive reply and does nothing to further the cause of Tradition.