Author Topic: Video about new SSPX seminary (Read 8597 times)

zviadist · « **Reply #30 on:** October 24, 2012, 09:22:55 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

http://www.gloria.tv/?media=348745

Watching this video made me realize why the same demonic forces who gave us Vatican II would spare no effort to bring us another "Vatican II" within the SSPX. A project of this scale and potential importance would be too much of a threat to the well-planned decline of the Church in the world. It had to be brought down. And brought down it is being.

The planned architecture is so stunning it briefly stops the heart and gives one a gasp for air.

Very sad, but any traditionalist giving a penny to this project should have his head examined.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #31 on:** October 24, 2012, 09:45:07 AM »

Quote from: zviadist

Quote from: Matthew
http://www.gloria.tv/?media=348745

Watching this video made me realize why the same demonic forces who gave us Vatican II would spare no effort to bring us another "Vatican II" within the SSPX. A project of this scale and potential importance would be too much of a threat to the well-planned decline of the Church in the world. It had to be brought down. And brought down it is being.

The planned architecture is so stunning it briefly stops the heart and gives one a gasp for air.

Very sad, but any traditionalist giving a penny to this project should have his head examined.

Do you really find it so nice?

zviadist · « **Reply #32 on:** October 24, 2012, 09:51:27 AM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

Quote from: zviadist
Quote from: Matthew
http://www.gloria.tv/?media=348745

Watching this video made me realize why the same demonic forces who gave us Vatican II would spare no effort to bring us another "Vatican II" within the SSPX. A project of this scale and potential importance would be too much of a threat to the well-planned decline of the Church in the world. It had to be brought down. And brought down it is being.

The planned architecture is so stunning it briefly stops the heart and gives one a gasp for air.

Very sad, but any traditionalist giving a penny to this project should have his head examined.

Do you really find it so nice?

Well certainly I love the architecture. That is not necessarily a religious conclusion but more an aesthetic one. Also I like the idea of big and bold traditional Catholicism projecting itself confidently into hostile post-modernist US territory. There is not necessarily anything particularly noble about being in the catacombs when the true faith needs to be openly and confidently professed. This would be a real marker for the continued development of traditional Catholicism. As it stands now, I would not bet on a single thing coming from it.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #33 on:** October 24, 2012, 09:55:34 AM »

Quote from: zviadist

Well certainly I love the architecture. That is not necessarily a religious conclusion but more an aesthetic one. Also I like the idea of big and bold traditional Catholicism projecting itself confidently into hostile post-modernist US territory. There is not necessarily anything particularly noble about being in the catacombs when the true faith needs to be openly and confidently professed. This would be a real marker for the continued development of traditional Catholicism. As it stands now, I would not bet on a single thing coming from it.

I like traditional architecture too. As poor as the results of revivalism could be at times, they were often spectacular. However, in this case, it's overdone. Particularly all the round towers.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-V6lx6-DAK5s/Tsqfc2Y5KVI/AAAAAAAAAQQ/HYvlyfK9XzM/s1600/seminary.jpg

Telesphorus · « **Reply #34 on:** October 24, 2012, 09:58:53 AM »

What are they trying to do, have a central tower like Mainz or Cluny, only it's too thin.

They could build something like this Trappist Monastery, only with a nicer chapel.

http://www.offenburger.com/guestpaper.asp?link=20090519

zviadist · « **Reply #35 on:** October 24, 2012, 10:00:31 AM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

I like traditional architecture too. As poor as the results of revivalism could be at times, they were often spectacular. However, in this case, it's overdone. Particularly all the round towers.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-V6lx6-DAK5s/Tsqfc2Y5KVI/AAAAAAAAAQQ/HYvlyfK9XzM/s1600/seminary.jpg

Oh you are correct. I suppose I am just starving for any hint of past architectural glories. Those round towers are ghastly.

Columba · « **Reply #36 on:** October 24, 2012, 01:10:15 PM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

Quote from: zviadist
Well certainly I love the architecture. That is not necessarily a religious conclusion but more an aesthetic one. Also I like the idea of big and bold traditional Catholicism projecting itself confidently into hostile post-modernist US territory. There is not necessarily anything particularly noble about being in the catacombs when the true faith needs to be openly and confidently professed. This would be a real marker for the continued development of traditional Catholicism. As it stands now, I would not bet on a single thing coming from it.

I like traditional architecture too. As poor as the results of revivalism could be at times, they were often spectacular. However, in this case, it's overdone. Particularly all the round towers.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-V6lx6-DAK5s/Tsqfc2Y5KVI/AAAAAAAAAQQ/HYvlyfK9XzM/s1600/seminary.jpg

Those round towers resemble the Disney castle.

Incredulous · « **Reply #37 on:** October 24, 2012, 02:07:35 PM »

And let's pray they don't end up teaching Mickey's hybrid Mass there.

guitarplucker · « **Reply #38 on:** October 24, 2012, 02:19:16 PM »

Quote from: Columba

Quote from: Matthew
It's amazing that they have so many seminarians, particularly when one of the qualifications nowadays is being a Phlegmatic. :wink:

Fr. Wood certainly seems like a Phlegmatic temperament.

If you don't know the 4 Temperaments, go ahead and Google it. Among other things, Phlegmatic usually entails "passive" and "not a fighter".

He is a classic example of what I speak of when I say, "The new type of Priest the SSPX is looking for".

I kind of feel sorry for his students...we had some really interesting professors when I was there, but I honestly couldn't imagine Fr. Wood keeping the students awake very easily...

Wow! I just watched the video. That Fr. Wood is downright scary.

I agree!

If he's an example of a typical phlegmatic then it must be difficult to distinguish them from ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs.

Dellery · « **Reply #39 on:** January 14, 2013, 02:56:10 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

http://www.gloria.tv/?media=348745

Quite a bit different than this one, huh?

unprofitable servant · « **Reply #40 on:** January 14, 2013, 05:40:45 PM »

This is what has me scratching my head ...

1.) We are on the verge of an economic crash. Please correct me if I am being rash.

2.) They (the legal representatives for Menzingen) have reported that the seminary project is being financed by a certain family fund (and we are talking millions of dollars).

3.) Fr Rostand sent out a Christmas letter in an attempt to finesse more money out of Traditional Catholic families, even going so far as to suggest how much they could send based upon a "survey".

4.) And last, but not least, somewhere it was stated that they have 200 acres available at the Winona seminary. If this is indeed true, then something is rotten in Denmark and it gets stinkier all the time.

Matthew · « **Reply #41 on:** January 14, 2013, 10:52:45 PM »

Quote from: unprofitable servant

This is what has me scratching my head ...

1.) We are on the verge of an economic crash. Please correct me if I am being rash.

2.) They (the legal representatives for Menzingen) have reported that the seminary project is being financed by a certain family fund (and we are talking millions of dollars).

3.) Fr Rostand sent out a Christmas letter in an attempt to finesse more money out of Traditional Catholic families, even going so far as to suggest how much they could send based upon a "survey".

4.) And last, but not least, somewhere it was stated that they have 200 acres available at the Winona seminary. If this is indeed true, then something is rotten in Denmark and it gets stinkier all the time.

Regarding #1 -- You are absolutely correct. Anyone who thinks we're not in a Depression or a serious downturn has his head firmly planted in the sand.

Regarding #2 -- I wonder who provided those millions of dollars.

Regarding #4 -- it's not a rumor, it's true. I was there. They have lots of acreage, both cleared and wooded, at Winona. Plenty of space for an addition.

I realize that adding on to the seminary building ITSELF would have issues -- bringing up the whole building to 2012 "building code". But many colleges have dealt with this very issue by building separate buildings when they add square footage to their complex.

They should do the same in Winona.

Incredulous · « **Reply #42 on:** January 15, 2013, 12:36:20 AM »

The new seminary ?

Why its a wonderful thing!

Winona... its in the back-woods.

The Conciliarists want to show-off their trad "high church" seminary within driving distance of the US seat of power, Washington DC.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #43 on:** January 15, 2013, 12:53:19 AM »

Yes, this is rather like Spain at present. There is a chapel in Madrid, just one belonging to the SSPX, but now, WITH FALLING NUMBERS of faithful, they want to spend 7million euros on building a new chapel. Why? There is just one priory in Spain, at least 20 miles outside Madrid. Spain is the only country I know of that has never tried to set up any other priories around Spain. They even closed down the one in Portugal some years back. They can't say they don't have enough priests... they have 6 at the priory. They take it in turns to motor around the country to say masses in various towns, then go back to the priory and that's it! One of the priests goes to Portugal once a month.

Wy not use the money to either set up a couple of new chapels in Spain, or an extra priory? Other tradional groups are growing in Spain, from what I have heard, but not our SSPX. Sad...[/quote]

That's sad to read as this is to some extent what I am seeing in Latin America. It almost seems like somewhere in management there are subtle moves being taken to hinder growth. There are some brave priest here also and I can't state what I have stated without also acknowledging that the FSSPX is now visiting Cuba, Nicaragua, and even recently Honduras. Surprisingly, it's the same brave priest visiting all these countries and a few others so I worry about what the next generations will do.

cathman7 · « **Reply #44 on:** January 16, 2013, 01:11:09 PM »

Quote from: guitarplucker

Quote from: Columba
Quote from: Matthew
It's amazing that they have so many seminarians, particularly when one of the qualifications nowadays is being a Phlegmatic. :wink:

Fr. Wood certainly seems like a Phlegmatic temperament.

If you don't know the 4 Temperaments, go ahead and Google it. Among other things, Phlegmatic usually entails "passive" and "not a fighter".

He is a classic example of what I speak of when I say, "The new type of Priest the SSPX is looking for".

I kind of feel sorry for his students...we had some really interesting professors when I was there, but I honestly couldn't imagine Fr. Wood keeping the students awake very easily...

Wow! I just watched the video. That Fr. Wood is downright scary.

I agree!

If he's an example of a typical phlegmatic then it must be difficult to distinguish them from ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs.

A totally worthless and offensive reply and does nothing to further the cause of Tradition.