I am not a troll; I've been on this board for nearly 5 years, which you can verify just by looking at my profile.  So, if you would, please stick to the OP.

On Obama

Quote from: Jehanne

Democracy gave us abortion, contraception,  women in pants (oh, sorry, cheap shot!), etc.  Don't get me wrong, I am an American and fully support the American democratic system.  It is just that the American system, based upon the Enlightenment philosophers (Kant, Hume, etc.) gave us relativism, and the rest, as they say, is history...  Democracy is not, I think, intrinsically evil, just that it ends up with intrinsically evil outcomes.

Now, all of you might hate me, but I voted for Obama. I think the Republican's party "pro-life" attitude is not at all sincere, at least as "professed" by their politicians.  They are, IMHO, using the pro-life religious voters as cheap political hookers.

We are stuck with abortion, and contraception, also.  (I won't mention that 'other' thing.)  It's murder, plain and simple, the destruction of innocent, human life.  We still have to mow our laws, go to work, and stay out of jail, no matter how much we distaste all of it.  I do not say the Pledge of Allegiance, but I do vote.

Voting for Obama, I believe, has resulted in fewer abortions.  There are no pro-life candidates in America, none of which, to a moral certitude, could ever be elected to the Presidency.  Besides, Roe v. Wade is here to stay, at least until the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.  Until then, we can only limit abortion, especially, by helping low-income mothers.  

On "global warming"

Quote from: Jehanne

I agree with that latter sentence, 100%!  I, too, think that the World would be a better place with the Catholic monarchies.  Speaking strictly from a scientific point of view, our present Civilization is not sustainable. We are going to "drown" in our own greenhouse gas emissions, and the "free market," republican (small 'R') capitalism will guarantee that we sink toward the lowest common denominator, which is fossil fuels. They are the cheapest and most reliable form of energy, which is why we are guaranteed to continue to use them, because if we do not, someone else will, which means that we will get beat, badly, in the free market.  It is the Tragedy of the Commons, which did not occur under feudalism.

If and until then, I, as a private citizen, am stuck with what I got.  And, I do care about other issues, like my family's healthcare, which would suffer under Republican rule.  As I said before, the Republican party is using the Religious Right, like a cheap...

On NFP

Quote from: Jehanne

Quote from: Raoul76

Are you going to say that with NFP that there is no attempt to prevent propagation?  You yourself admit that it is your intent, Jehanne.

Yes, that is my intent.  Nothing in Catholic teachings says that Catholic couples are to reproduce like a bunch of maggots, and I am not aware of any "kid quotas" for Catholic couples.  I love my wife, and while we would welcome a new life, we cannot afford another child.  It would devastate us, and especially, her.

I don't think he's a troll. He's just a modernist, and doesn't realize it; not to mention, ignorant. Please pray for him.   :sad:  

You forget about Antarctic sea ice, as well. Lookie here. RECORD amount back in late 2013 (which was just two seasons ago)

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=82160

Look at the date:

http://archives.sspx.org/New_Catechism/new_catechism__is_it_catholic_part_1.htm

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A commentary by Fr. Michel Simoulin and published in the March 1994 issue of The Angelus.

The new English edition of the Catechism, with corrections, was not published until 1997:

http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/aposletr.htm

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I therefore strongly urge my Venerable Brothers in the Episcopate, for whom the Catechism is primarily intended, to take the excellent opportunity afforded by the promulgation of this Latin edition to intensify their efforts to disseminate the text more widely and to ensure that it is well received as an outstanding gift for the communities entrusted to them, which will thus be able to rediscover the inexhaustible riches of the faith. Through the harmonious and complementary efforts of all the ranks of the People of God, may this Catechism be known and shared by everyone, so that the unity in faith whose supreme model and origin is found in the Unity of the Trinity may be strengthened and extended to the ends of the earth. To Mary, Mother of Christ, whose Assumption body and soul into heaven we celebrate today, I entrust these wishes so that they may be brought to fulfillment for the spiritual good of all humanity. From Castel Gandolfo, August 15, 1997, the nineteenth year of the Pontificate.

If the SSPX wants to critique the new Catechism, great!  But at least they should be honest enough to use the current and official translation and not some draft which everyone agrees was poorly translated.  Finally, the SSPX needs to stop cherry-picking paragraphs from the new Catechism, which states that it should be treated as a unified whole:

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18 This catechism is conceived as an organic presentation of the Catholic faith in its entirety. It should be seen therefore as a unified whole. Numerous cross-references in the margin of the text (numbers found at the end of a sentence referring to other paragraphs that deal with the same theme), as well as the analytical index at the end of the volume, allow the reader to view each theme in its relationship with the entirety of the faith.