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Offline TheRealMcCoy

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« on: January 23, 2016, 12:01:28 PM »
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  • Calling for ex-communication of enemies of the Church of Pfeiffer?

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    IS THE RESISTANCE BEING ATTACKED ON EVERY SIDE BY THOSE INSIDE?


    Excerpts taken from Chiesa Viva 2014.
    Cardinal Ratzinger after Vatican II said:
    “From today’s crisis, a Church will emerge tomorrow that will have lost a great deal. She will be small and, to a large extent, will have to start from the beginning. She will no longer be able to fill many of the buildings created in her period of great splendour. Contrary to what has happened until now, she will present herself much more as a community of volunteers....

    As a small community, she will demand much more from the initiative of each of her members and she will certainly also acknowledge new forms of ministry and will raise up to the priesthood proven Christians who have a vocation for the priesthood life. The normal care of souls will be assigned to little communities, respectively in social groups with some affinity. This will be achieved with effort. The process of crystallization and clarification will demand great exertion and the result will be a “poor church” of the poor and simple people. All this will require time and the process will be slow and painful.”

    On May 11, 2010, during air travel to Fatima, Benedict XVI also spoke of the “necessity for the Passion of the Church” and announced sufferings for the Church, stating that such suffering would be originated not from external enemies, but INSIDE the Church itself.

    Evidently, the “enemy” is anyone who opposes a certain course of events Therefore, to Freemasonry, the “internal enemy” is the Catholic who does not want to renounce his faith which is founded on Jesus Christ, the Son of
    God and God Himself; whereas, to those who want to defend the Church of Christ, the “internal enemy,” is one who does not believe in the Divinity of Christ and, very often, is trying to hide his affiliation with the Satanic cult of Freemasonry, and is involved in the project of the World Government that has as its prerequisite the annihilation of the Church of Christ.
    Freemasonry knows that there can be no significant change in doctrine or discipline of the Church of Christ without the will of the Pope, and therefore the “enemies INSIDE the Church itself” are to be found at the top of the Church and not elsewhere.

    In the Apocalypse, St John speaks of the three beasts of the Antichrist and the Whore of Babylon, and that of those ministers of God who betray him and fight him, offering their “valuable services” to the leaders of the political world (Babylon), in the work of demolition and destruction of the Church of Christ.

    Here then the ultimate goal of the betrayal of these ministers of God is clearly described: “a new church changed a lot and small ...”, “a church that certainly admits new forms of ministry,” “a church that will present itself as
    a community of volunteers,” “a church in which the care of souls will be given to small communities,” “a church of the poor, simple people”...

    Could this perhaps best describe the demolition and annihilation of the “Church as Institution” and the creation of a “new Christianity” reduced to a minimum, dismembered, powerless, completely in disarray, and suppressed
    with a minimum of effort?

    Yet, some would argue, with what respect they have spoken and speak
    about Jesus and the Gospel ... How is it possible that they are traitors? …

    Benedict XVI, in the hidden occult language of his coat of arms, has presented himself as Patriarch of the World, and that is the Head of the Satanic Order of the Illuminati of Bavaria.

    (as seen in June edition)
    The coat of arms of Benedict XVI, in all its details and in such a diabolically perfect manner, represents the coat of arms of Freemason’s 30th degree. And in this instance, after burning fragrant incense to Lucifer, after committing a
    ritual murder, stomped on the Papal Tiara, after receiving a patriarchal cross with three arms, a symbol of the three powers of Order, Jurisdiction and Magisterium of Lucifer, the Masonic Candidate declares his hatred
    and War against God.

    Does this not explain why Benedict XVI, in his coat of arms, eliminate the Tiara replacing it with a mitre which is surmounted by a Patriarchal Cross with three arms?
    AND
    Why did Francis “Bishop of Rome” adopt the same type of Mitre on his coat of arms? And why does the coat of arms of Pope Benedict XVI, in its deepest symbolic meaning, represent the Redemption of the Gnostic-Satanic Masonic Triple Trinity, whose Third Trinity expresses the reality of the three beasts of the Antichrist: Lucifer, the Emperor of the World and the Patriarch of the World?
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    Everyone in the Resistance should know who the enemy truly is and fight with all their might to renounce this enemy, to expose this enemy and with the help of Heaven defeat this enemy.

    Why are we then not a force to be reckoned with? Instead we have become as Fr Altimari said, a laughing stock. Feeble weak and ineffective! How can we just be lying down in the face of the enemy? Cowardly waiting for either a chastisement to sweep us away, or some miracle to save us, how can we have a foot in the enemy’s camp at the same time we say we fight for Christ?

    "Evidently, the “enemy” is anyone who opposes a certain course of events."
    Is there a ‘course of events’ happening within the Resistance to destroy all true Resistance, are we their enemy?

    Is it time to cull and regroup by seriously working out who is for Christ and who is against?
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    Offline Matthew

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    « Reply #1 on: January 23, 2016, 01:09:13 PM »
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    Everyone in the Resistance should know who the enemy truly is and fight with all their might to renounce this enemy, to expose this enemy and with the help of Heaven defeat this enemy.

    Why are we then not a force to be reckoned with? Instead we have become as Fr Altimari said, a laughing stock. Feeble weak and ineffective! How can we just be lying down in the face of the enemy? Cowardly waiting for either a chastisement to sweep us away, or some miracle to save us, how can we have a foot in the enemy’s camp at the same time we say we fight for Christ?


    1. I think most in the Resistance understand the Freemasonic infiltration of the Conciliar Church, which is why we have nothing to do with it (unlike Bishop Fellay, who is negotiating for a practical agreement and approval from them)

    2. What exactly is the TINY, TINY Resistance supposed to be doing that we're not doing? We can't arrange boycotts, we're not numerous enough. We're outnumbered; the best we can do is survive this with our Faith intact. The only thing we need to push ourselves to accomplish is to STAY CATHOLIC and not become sectarian as we keep the Faith. We need to keep a Catholic head on our shoulders during these trying times.

    3. Beyond that, what else are you suggesting, when you say we should go on the offensive? When a group is outnumbered 1 to 10000 or 1 to 100,000 (which we are, by the way!), and you talk about offensive and VICTORY over your foes by your own devices, there's only ONE tactic that has any chance of success: Terrorism. Or, to use the technical term, Asymmetric Warfare. Guerrilla warfare. If you you mean bombs, just say bombs. If you mean blow things up, just say "we need to blow things up". Of course I think that's an agent provocateur talking -- as well as the devil talking.

    4. Who are you referring to when you say that many (most?) in the Resistance have "a foot in the enemy’s camp at the same time we say we fight for Christ?" I don't follow you at all. Unless you're sedevacantist and you're criticizing the "recognize" portion of our "recognize and resist", but it's not that simple either: Fr. Altamira has denied being sedevacantist. So I'm totally at a loss what he's getting at here.

    5. I say you're crazy. Bishop Williamson, Bishop Faure, Fr. Zendejas, Fr. Garcia, and many other good Resistant clergy are doing all they can to help the faithful keep the Faith in a very practical, real way by sticking to Catholic teaching and giving them the Sacraments. Until you can come up with some real, specific charges of what they're not doing, or how they're "one foot in the enemy's camp", I'm going to assume you're crazy, you just like to complain, and you like to be noticed by the world.
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    « Reply #2 on: January 23, 2016, 01:31:05 PM »
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  •   Very good points Sir Matthew ! The demons are possessing
    souls and leading them astray so easily are they fooled who
    do not pray the Rosary ! :incense: :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray:

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    « Reply #3 on: January 23, 2016, 05:26:51 PM »
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  • We have all got used to seeing traditionalism as a small niche market and hoping that working within its limitations is enough for salvation. With this perspective the kingship of Christ would seem like an impossible dream. Waiting for some cataclysmic event that would turn minds to this end is the only answer for those unreformed churchmen that have taken the passive path. The same message also comes from my visiting Jehovah Witnesses with their tale of doom to come.

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    « Reply #4 on: January 23, 2016, 09:25:16 PM »
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  • I don't have time for cult leaders. I don't have time for cultish sheep. I don't have time for clerics who are  self-interested and ambitious. Forget these people who think that not supporting fr pfeiffer or not supporting bishop williamson equals non-membership in the catholic church. These types of people don't understand what the vocation of 21st century catholics is.

    It is to keep the faith in a world ruled by satan. Not to belong to an organization that tells you that you have the faith.


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    « Reply #5 on: January 23, 2016, 11:03:13 PM »
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  • QUESTION, Who is Veronica?

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    « Reply #6 on: January 23, 2016, 11:40:57 PM »
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  • Quote from: Paul FHC
    Forget these people who think that not supporting fr pfeiffer or not supporting bishop williamson equals non-membership in the catholic church. These types of people don't understand what the vocation of 21st century catholics is.

    It is to keep the faith in a world ruled by satan. Not to belong to an organization that tells you that you have the faith.


    Nice try being "impartial", but let's be honest -- I don't know anyone who says that not supporting Bishop Williamson means you're not a member of the Catholic Church.

    I wouldn't say the same for Fr. Pfeiffer, however.

    Think that's a gratuitous statement? I'll prove it. Fr. Pfeiffer has been known to actively red-light his "competitors", whereas the same does NOT occur from +Williamson, +Faure, Fr. Zendejas, and many others.

    Let's not throw everyone in the same boat, just to be "fair". That's quite UNfair, actually.
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    « Reply #7 on: January 24, 2016, 12:06:13 AM »
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  • Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
    QUESTION, Who is Veronica?

    Maybe it's veronica lueken.

    That would explain the spelling, "Fr Altimari."

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    « Reply #8 on: January 24, 2016, 12:14:30 AM »
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    We have all got used to seeing traditionalism as a small niche market and hoping that working within its limitations is enough for salvation. With this perspective the kingship of Christ would seem like an impossible dream.


    If Christ is on our side, we can do anything.

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    Waiting for some cataclysmic event that would turn minds to this end is the only answer for those unreformed churchmen that have taken the passive path. The same message also comes from my visiting Jehovah Witnesses with their tale of doom to come.


    So then John XXIII was talking about Jehovah Witnesses!!  ("prophets of doom") How novel.  But possible?!

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    « Reply #9 on: January 24, 2016, 12:22:23 AM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew

    1. I think most in the Resistance understand the Freemasonic infiltration of the Conciliar Church, which is why we have nothing to do with it (unlike Bishop Fellay, who is negotiating for a practical agreement and approval from them)[.]


    Maybe +Fellay is a Freemason..   :surprised:  That would explain everything!  :detective:

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    « Reply #10 on: January 24, 2016, 08:08:30 AM »
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    QUESTION, Who is Veronica?


    Someone who publically states she wants a culling of the Resistance.  I'm curious to what her criteria for membership in the Resistance is?  Maybe Manual can get on the batphone and ask Father to weigh in on this.  Or maybe Gregorio Sarto can cover it on his new blog/forum/pulpit.  Culling is something usually reserved to animals but perhaps that is how this Veronica views people who don't stump for OLMC or share her diabolical hatred of +Williamson.

    BTW, Veronika Leuken is dead.


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    « Reply #11 on: January 24, 2016, 01:47:20 PM »
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  • Quote from: Paul FHC
    I consider myself very impartial in this matter. I can admit the good deeds of both camps, I can also point out the errors. Although communicating with a schismatic/heretical bishop is a line that not even Darth Fellay has crossed, I do not see Bishop Williamson as completely right in all things.


    Have you asked Bp Williamson about the matter?

    We have. And, satisfied with his answer, Matthew decided not to allow this subject to be tossed around on this site as there are more than a few who wish to slam Bp Williamson for no other reason than their dislike / hatred of him.

    You'll notice that discussion of NO miracles, books on the index, visionaries, and the like is not outright censored because we have the bishop's public statements on these matters and he's not altogether above criticism.
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...

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    « Reply #12 on: January 24, 2016, 01:49:09 PM »
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    You people are sure keeping the Sabbath holy but calumniating and detracting like this on the internet for the whole world to see. God have mercy on you.

    In addition, what competence do you have to judge ?  Are you trained in Canon Law ?  Leave it to the competent authorities and do penance for such unCatholic behaviour, especially on a Sunday.


    Yes, it would be nice if we could keep conversations requiring moderation to M-F. We're trying to get ready for Mass, but have to stop to moderate posts.
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...

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    « Reply #13 on: January 24, 2016, 02:27:29 PM »
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    QUESTION, Who is Veronica?


    I have no idea, but it's not me.

    --Veronica in NC

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    « Reply #14 on: January 24, 2016, 04:52:03 PM »
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    QUESTION, Who is Veronica?


    I have no idea, but it's not me.

    --Veronica in NC


    That was a quote from another forum with a very prolific poster named Veronica.  I can't post the link but I think most folks here know which one it is.

     

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