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« on: July 07, 2012, 10:37:58 AM »
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    VATICAN II B
    The parallels between Vatican II and the recent happenings within the Society of St Pius X are so striking that these happenings could be called Vatican IIB. It stands to reason. Exactly the same seduction and pressure of the modern world that made the mainstream churchmen collapse in the 1960’s have swayed a number of SSPX members in the 2000’s, bringing the SSPX to near collapse. I recently imagined I heard a mother telling her child a bed-time story:--

    “Once upon a time there was a flourishing Catholic Church, but it was surrounded by a naughty modern world. So the Church condemned the modern principles on which that world was based. But that world did not like being condemned, so it did all it could to infiltrate the Church and stop its condemnations. However, events like two dreadful World Wars were proving the Church to be right, and so souls were joining the Church in large numbers because it was providing true solutions to the world’s problems.

    “But then disaster struck ! Just when so many souls were surrendering to the sweet yoke of Christ, the leading churchmen decided that the modern world was right after all, and so at a great four-year meeting in Rome they changed the Church’s principles to fit the modern world. They made friends with all the Church’s former enemies, and were very cruel towards the Church’s true friends that wanted nothing to do with the modernization. These true friends were only a small minority of Catholics, because over several centuries Catholics had come to put so much trust in their leaders that even when these were betraying the Church, still the Catholics put their trust in them. However God in his mercy at last gave his true friends a leader of their own, a truly Catholic Archbishop, and then they began to rally, and a truly Catholic movement of resistance began to flourish.

    “However, the movement was surrounded by the naughty Newchurch whose Newchurchmen did not like being condemned as modernists by the movement. So they did all in their power to shut it down. But events such as the emptying out and shutting down of one Newchurch institution after another were proving the movement to be right, and so more and more Catholic souls were making their way towards the movement because of its true solutions to the problems otherwise insoluble, both of the modern world and of the Newchurch which had gone over to that world.

    “But then disaster struck ! Just when the movement was gaining more and more souls from the collapsing Newchurch, the leaders of the movement began to say that the ills of the modern world can be exaggerated, so the four-year meeting was not so bad after all. These leaders then began to make friends with the Newchurchmen, and they showed great harshness towards any members of the movement who might insist on condemning the Newchurch and its false principles. Worse, these leaders were not without followers inside the movement, because Catholics are so used to thinking they are disloyal if they do not trust their leaders.”

    “Ooh, Mummy, did the story end happily ever after ?”

    “Darling, I can’t tell you. It’s not yet over. Now go to sleep.”

    Kyrie eleison.

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    « Reply #1 on: July 07, 2012, 10:48:45 AM »
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    Worse, these leaders were not without followers inside the movement, because Catholics are so used to thinking they are disloyal if they do not trust their leaders.”

     :applause:

    There was hesitancy even on the Ignis Ardens forum to criticise Bishop Fellay.No wonder Krah was able to gain influence with such a sheeple mentality. Bishop Fellay and others treated people like children and fools.



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    « Reply #2 on: July 07, 2012, 10:59:34 AM »
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  • Instead of seeing the Church as the Truth and no other religion as equal, the Church decided to meet the world half-way, no longer being the moral beacon to mankind.

    That is the legacy of Vatican II. All the poisinous vapors of modernism entered, along with the Devil himself!

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    « Reply #3 on: July 07, 2012, 08:01:45 PM »
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  • Number CCLX (260)
            
    7 July 2012
    VATICAN II B

    The parallels between Vatican II and the recent happenings within the Society of St Pius X are so striking that these happenings could be called Vatican IIB. It stands to reason. Exactly the same seduction and pressure of the modern world that made the mainstream churchmen collapse in the 1960’s have swayed a number of SSPX members in the 2000’s, bringing the SSPX to near collapse. I recently imagined I heard a mother telling her child a bed-time story:--

    “Once upon a time there was a flourishing Catholic Church, but it was surrounded by a naughty modern world. So the Church condemned the modern principles on which that world was based. But that world did not like being condemned, so it did all it could to infiltrate the Church and stop its condemnations. However, events like two dreadful World Wars were proving the Church to be right, and so souls were joining the Church in large numbers because it was providing true solutions to the world’s problems.

    “But then disaster struck ! Just when so many souls were surrendering to the sweet yoke of Christ, the leading churchmen decided that the modern world was right after all, and so at a great four-year meeting in Rome they changed the Church’s principles to fit the modern world. They made friends with all the Church’s former enemies, and were very cruel towards the Church’s true friends that wanted nothing to do with the modernization. These true friends were only a small minority of Catholics, because over several centuries Catholics had come to put so much trust in their leaders that even when these were betraying the Church, still the Catholics put their trust in them. However God in his mercy at last gave his true friends a leader of their own, a truly Catholic Archbishop, and then they began to rally, and a truly Catholic movement of resistance began to flourish.

    “However, the movement was surrounded by the naughty Newchurch whose Newchurchmen did not like being condemned as modernists by the movement. So they did all in their power to shut it down. But events such as the emptying out and shutting down of one Newchurch institution after another were proving the movement to be right, and so more and more Catholic souls were making their way towards the movement because of its true solutions to the problems otherwise insoluble, both of the modern world and of the Newchurch which had gone over to that world.

    “But then disaster struck ! Just when the movement was gaining more and more souls from the collapsing Newchurch, the leaders of the movement began to say that the ills of the modern world can be exaggerated, so the four-year meeting was not so bad after all. These leaders then began to make friends with the Newchurchmen, and they showed great harshness towards any members of the movement who might insist on condemning the Newchurch and its false principles. Worse, these leaders were not without followers inside the movement, because Catholics are so used to thinking they are disloyal if they do not trust their leaders.”

    “Ooh, Mummy, did the story end happily ever after ?”

    “Darling, I can’t tell you. It’s not yet over. Now go to sleep.”

    Kyrie eleison.
       


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    « Reply #4 on: July 07, 2012, 08:17:57 PM »
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  • Fr. Vianney says that the devil stated to him:
    "How thou makest me suffer!  If there were 3 men on earth like thyself, my kingdom would be destroyed."

    Imagine if there were just three bishops that communicated like Bp. Williamson.


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    « Reply #5 on: July 07, 2012, 09:44:47 PM »
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  • The four-year meeting, in Rome, you see

    Is where it all took place, where

    They should have bought the bleachers

    But instead, they bought the Farm!

    And that's how everything took place according to the plan

    It succeeded beyond their wildest dreams:

    Can you blame them for still being in a state of euphoria?????

    These guys are still on top of the world!

    They even think they're immune from the law!

    They have the obedience of Catholics

    What more could tyrants want?????

    Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.


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    Fr. Vianney says that the devil stated to him:

    "How thou makest me suffer!  
    If there were 3 men on earth like thyself, my kingdom would be destroyed."

    Imagine if there were just three bishops that communicated like Bp. Williamson.


    That's exactly what Bishop Fellay is worried about: his kingdom!!
    (There ARE 3 bishops standing up to him! HAHAHAHA)
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    « Reply #6 on: July 08, 2012, 02:05:42 PM »
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    “But then disaster struck ! Just when the movement was gaining more and more souls from the collapsing Newchurch, the leaders of the movement began to say that the ills of the modern world can be exaggerated, so the four-year meeting was not so bad after all. These leaders then began to make friends with the Newchurchmen, and they showed great harshness towards any members of the movement who might insist on condemning the Newchurch and its false principles. Worse, these leaders were not without followers inside the movement, because Catholics are so used to thinking they are disloyal if they do not trust their leaders.”

    Kyrie eleison.



    Thanks again Msgr. Williamson.
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