Author Topic: Valid SSPX-SO Priestly Ordinations (Read 11737 times)

magdalena · « **Reply #10 on:** November 12, 2012, 05:26:33 PM »

If toward the end of time the Perpetual Sacrifice will disappear, what better way could it happen than to have invalid bishops and invalid priests? IMO, that would be Satan's master stroke.

Sigismund · « **Reply #11 on:** November 12, 2012, 07:50:30 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: Sigismund
The SSPX does not routinely re-ordain priests ordained in the NO, do they?

Under whose judgment should they "routinely re-ordain priests" anyway?

If they were concerned with Christians' baptisms being invalid, would they
"routinely re-baptize" Christians?

Are you aware that both Baptism and Holy Orders are sacraments that cannot
be repeated without grave sacrilege? Are you recommending that taking the
chance of commission of grave sacrilege is a reasonable risk?

Absolutely not. I think NO ordinations and sacraments are valid, and I agree that repeating the unrepeatable ones would be objectively a sacrilege. I was simply asking if the SSPX thought so too.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #12 on:** November 12, 2012, 09:35:56 PM »

Quote from: Sigismund

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: Sigismund
The SSPX does not routinely re-ordain priests ordained in the NO, do they?

Under whose judgment should they "routinely re-ordain priests" anyway?

If they were concerned with Christians' baptisms being invalid, would they
"routinely re-baptize" Christians?

Are you aware that both Baptism and Holy Orders are sacraments that cannot
be repeated without grave sacrilege? Are you recommending that taking the
chance of commission of grave sacrilege is a reasonable risk?

Absolutely not. I think NO ordinations and sacraments are valid, and I agree that repeating the unrepeatable ones would be objectively a sacrilege. I was simply asking if the SSPX thought so too.

It does now.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #13 on:** November 12, 2012, 11:07:11 PM »

and worse then invalid priests are pervert, child molestors, theives, scam artists, etc...

CathMomof7 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 12, 2012, 11:30:47 PM »

I think if you write Fr. Voigt and ask him to clarify who conditionally ordained him and when, you will be satisfied with that answer.

Perhaps the Bishop who conditionally ordained Fr. Voigt would not like to get in a fighting match with the Society of St. Pius X.