nadie responds: Spaniards are not European to you? To you Latin Americans from Spain, Portugal, France, Italy and Germany are not Europeans? Argentina has a higher percentage of Europeans than the USA or Canada.

Argentina has a lot more indian admixture than on paper.  "White" is rather loosely defined in Latin America sometimes, which is fine, but let's not kid ourselves.

Here's some commentary from a Mexican girl (Lebanese, German and Cantabrian, no Amerind):

¿Y luego mis conocidos mexicanos me preguntan por qué no quiero volver a México? creo que sobran razones:
Desde el machismo extremo hasta la violencia que vive ahora; desde su falta de cultura, hasta el malinchismo; desde la extrema desigualdad social, hasta el hecho de que el tiene dinero es dios; desde que manda más la naturaleza del salvaje y no de la razón.

¿Qué puedo esperar de un sitio que me trató peor que a un animal simple y llanamente por ser chica? ¿Cuándo podrá una persona denunciar sin miedo a aparecer descuartizada? ¿Para cuándo una tregua?

Yeah, that's what we need here in the US.

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Tele wrote: It's clear what sort of insulting arrogance and insolence is typical of your type of people.  Which is why their migration should be tightly controlled.

Handson man Nadie responds: Do you want to tightly control migration of "insulting and arrogant people" or do you want to control migration of Spaniards who live in Latin America? I don't understand what you are saying? Am I insulting and arrogant because I am a successful first generation immigrant American citizen, educated here, that came from Latin America, or am I just "insulting and arrogant"becuase I'm a "Latin American? Maybe I am "insulting and arrogant " because I'm strikingly handsome and the girls swoon to me?



Look at those pearly whites!

Nadie- we may not agree on ... the unmentionable issue.. but this is very good! Perhaps this explains the sentiment of Tele and Graham very well.....! In the end, it doesn't matter, they lose with attitudes like that.

Let me post that quote again, so I can see that beautiful mug of mine again.

By Tele's his response to your comment, it looks like he does not have a clue as to what you are talking about. Amazing!

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nadie responds: Spaniards are not European to you? To you Latin Americans from Spain, Portugal, France, Italy and Germany are not Europeans? Argentina has a higher percentage of Europeans than the USA or Canada.

Argentina has a lot more indian admixture than on paper.  "White" is rather loosely defined in Latin America sometimes, which is fine, but let's not kid ourselves.

....Yeah, that's what we need here in the US.

Is your problem people with Indian blood lines? Should the Spaniards have exterminated the Indians (like the USA did) instead of converting them and taking them as one of their own, as the Spaniards attempted (and as Fr. DeSmet was doing in the Rockies)?

PereJoseph, Catholics colonized other areas through military might and imposed their rule, do you have a problem with that as well?  Is the problem as you see it that a powerful will has been imposed on native peoples, or is it all about whether this will is Catholic or not?  If the latter, then you shouldn't complain about colonialism, because it just sounds liberal.

I usually agree with you but you are going too far here, saying Mexicans shouldn't even learn to speak English.  I am not any more fond of this Masonic nation than you are, as you well know, but it's absurd to pretend that having this type of government hasn't changed the game.  America seems to be a punishment from God, like Babylon, but God did not tell the Jews in Babylon to live totally separately from Babylon and reject everything about it.  You are acting like the false prophet from Ezekiel who didn't accept God's punishment.

Where I do agree is that America is a nebulous and meaningless concept, and usually when people trumpet the way "America" should be it's just their own idealistic fantasy.  America is whatever they want to see.   The proof is that there is a certain strain of people whose vision of "America" is keeping immigrants out, yet the Statue of Liberty says "Give me your tired, your poor," etc.  This country was practically built on the backs of immigrants.  True, that was legal, while many Mexicans now come here illegally.  But there are many out there who have this idea of America as "our country" meaning whites, and I'm not sure where they would get such an impression.  It is a melting-pot nation, this was permitted and encouraged.

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Nadie asks: and English is not? You should really stick to a subject that you know something about. You are a very difficult person, set in your ways.

English is not even a fraction as hard as Polish.  Polish has seven cases, more than Latin, as well as freakishly difficult pronunciation.  It is generally accepted to be up there with Chinese and Arabic as the hardest language for foreigners to learn.  Poland is a relatively small country so the people there have always been cosmopolitan, many of them once knew French, I'm sure today many know French, German and / or English.

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nadie responds: Spaniards are not European to you? To you Latin Americans from Spain, Portugal, France, Italy and Germany are not Europeans? Argentina has a higher percentage of Europeans than the USA or Canada.

Argentina has a lot more indian admixture than on paper.  "White" is rather loosely defined in Latin America sometimes, which is fine, but let's not kid ourselves.

I was talking about European blood. So, you now switched it to white. OK, so, to you, ALL Latin Americans of European descent are not really white when they call themselves Europeans? What is white then? It's not very common to find a Latin American of European descent call himself white, normally they'll tell you where they or their parents came from  in Spain, Italy Germany etc.

PereJoseph, Catholics colonized other areas through military might and imposed their rule, do you have a problem with that as well?

It depends on the circuмstances, but in principle, I do not have a problem with it.

Is the problem as you see it that a powerful will has been imposed on native peoples, or is it all about whether this will is Catholic or not?

The latter, as well as all of the attendant dishonesty and murder the US used in pursuit of its anti-Christ goals.

If the latter, then you shouldn't complain about colonialism, because it just sounds liberal.

I am not opposed to colonialism as such, and I hope that I did not give that impression.  I am opposed to Protestants coming into a country of Catholics and Catholic allies and then effacing the legitimate customs, languages, and memory of the people there, especially since those things constituted the reign of Christ in this land and were gleefully destroyed in order to erect the reign of Satan.

I usually agree with you but you are going too far here, saying Mexicans shouldn't even learn to speak English.

Well, I don't think the US will be around much longer, so I think devout Mexican parents will unnecessarily be putting their children at risk of being absorbed into an immoral urban youth culture by having them learn English.  Plus, I don't see why there is any obligation for Mexicans in Southern California to learn English.  That being said, I am speaking of this particular case with this particularly strange type of governmental régime and culture.  In general, I think immigrants to countries should always learn the local language and respect the local customs and traditions of the people there.

I am not any more fond of this Masonic nation than you are, as you well know, but it's absurd to pretend that having this type of government hasn't changed the game.

How do you mean ?

America seems to be a punishment from God, like Babylon, but God did not tell the Jews in Babylon to live totally separately from Babylon and reject everything about it.

I never quite said that.  Obviously people need to respect the laws insofar as they are made by a power God allows and insofar as they are ordained to order and justice.  I think people need to make a livelihood, too, and I don't recommend total rejection; I personally don't have the great honour of living like a hermit -- as my vocation requires -- and I likewise don't insist that others live like Elias on Mount Carmel, either, if they are not so called.  That being said, I think that local heritages that predate the US's presence should be preserved and, in patient watching and prayer, people such as myself should redeem the time as we wait until a more opportune situation arises and, nature following its course, the US government dissolves.  Then we can rebuild.

You are acting like the false prophet from Ezekiel who didn't accept God's punishment.

I am aware that we are being punished; that being said, I also don't think we should join in on the punishing by sharing in the falsehoods and sins of the wicked generations that have succeeded, one after the another, in the US as it has poured over North America, nor should we offer incense to the Americanist idols.  In my case, I believe I have a patriotic duty to preserve my heritage and the memory of the country of Louisiana until the US goes away, meanwhile fulfilling my duty of state as best as I can in the concrete circuмstances in which I find myself.  That doesn't mean I can't still be loyal to the cause of my forefathers, preferring it to eventually prevail and the US to recede from my homeland, while also finding my way in the world through having a passport, driver's license, etc.  I don't think that counts as not accepting God's punishment.  But I am well aware that I merely propose, while God disposes.

Keep in mind that the Hebrews in Babylon did eventually return to Israel and remembered that they were Hebrews, descendants of Abraham to whom God made His covenant; they did not all become full Babylonians, even if they did bring Babylonian errors and wicked customs back with them before being returned to the straight and narrow path (for a while).

But there are many out there who have this idea of America as "our country" meaning whites, and I'm not sure where they would get such an impression.  It is a melting-pot nation, this was permitted and encouraged.

The truth is that, while it was called a melting-pot nation, there was always and still is a very strong contingent of people who want(ed) everything to melt into the pre-existing English and Puritan soup.  It might be accepted as seasoning, but that's it.  It seems that there was a kind of disingenuousness in the way the US was represented as a melting pot.  Maybe it is because, while the US was purposely designed to be an exception to every other country by being based on novel ideas represented as universal, self-evident truths, the original United-Statesians were still very much Englishmen who believed in English ideas (as the US ideas are), and their society could not help but operate according to the dynamics natural to any other country.  In order to get ahead and be accepted in US society, one had to, for all intents and purposes, become another Anglo-Protestant.  

Any claims to non-ethnic detachedness fell before the insistence on the English language, the English ideas, the piety shown for the Puritan settlers of Massachusetts, the anti-Catholicism contained in the US Declaration of Independence, and the overwhelmingly Protestant culture and state and local laws.  It really never could be simultaneously both so incredibly English and a universal melting-pot.  And the US would not be the US if not for the ideas, language, laws, culture, and religion of its founders.  A practical example will suffice :  Every public school history textbook includes the phrase "our Pilgrim forefathers" when speaking of the Mayflower and so forth; for the natives of Santa Fe, Lafayette, and the various Indian reservations, that sounds a little strange.  Ah, but it's a melting pot... well, kinda, but... not really.

You didn't answer his questions.

The Spanish didn't exterminate and enslave indians?  

Anyway PereJoseph, I'm done talking to you, because you're a maniac.  But in your very Jєωιѕн world view, Americans are precluded from having an identity, rights, or a nationality.  Your hatred of America is something you wouldn't have if it weren't for the Jєωιѕн influence on you.

Exterminate ?  No.  

They caused massive deaths.

You didn't answer the other questions, though, such as whether or not you have a problem with people who have Indian bloodlines

I don't have a problem with them, but I don't consider them to be Europeans.

or whether or not you consider Latin Americans of European descent to be "white."  :scratchchin:

Whether they are white or not would depend on their ancestry being predominantly European, wouldn't it?

I have my suspicions as to why.  Tell me, have you really considered the absurdity yet of aligning yourself against almost every Catholic ethnicity on the face of the earth

That is another stupid statement.  How to align myself against Catholic nations by saying that the US is culturally and historically a white European nation?  It's only someone who is completely lacking in objectivity who denies that.  As I've said before, you deny the identity and the existence of an American nationality, that is simply a result of being someone consumed with hatred for what you consider to be "anglo-protestant" America and it's prairies that you wish desolation on.

and siding with United-Statesian White Nationalists ?

So recognizing white Americans as an ethnicity and really the core of the American nationality is "aligning with white Americans against every Catholic ethnicity."  That is of course an absurd remark, but I suppose it's natural from someone who is mentally ill.

I guess that when you, like Man of the West, have no arguments and facts and don't have a sound grasp of the issues at hand, you give childish insults instead.

There's no arguing with a lunatic.

 

Then again, it looks like I am in good company, since you have insulted the character and intelligence of just about everybody on this forum at one point or another when they don't find you as persuasive as you imagine yourself to be.

You mean when they show their inept reasoning?  I would say nearly all of them have agreed with me at some point or another, it's only when it comes to topics they can't handle that they start raving.  And believe me, you are a raving lunatic with your talk about all white English speaking American Catholics being somehow not really being Catholic - indeed you've said as much - you recognize the people you hate, even if you claim you don't recognize the existence of the American nationality.  That you're infected with judaized thinking and French stupidity is unfortunate but evident.

 There's no shame in admitting that you aren't prepared to continue a discussion and can't answer the arguments that cause you so much frustration.

No, there's no shame in concluding you're a basket case and putting you on ignore.  I mean really.  Your posts are a symptom of hysteria.

There you go again with your meaningless terminology and baseless accusations.  

It's not baseless at all.  Your obsessive hatred of the American ethnicity, which is so great that you deny the Catholicity of white Americans, and have done so before, is something you've borrowed from the Jєωιѕн propagandists.  

An absolutely incredible claim.  You might as well just admit you lost, rather than prove it by resorting to the ultimate cop-out, especially considering that you haven't offered any proof whatsoever.

What you say about the US is part of the post-68 narrative.  It shows that your thinking is defective and is heavily influenced by judaized leftism.

 Most people aren't going to follow you on this, seeing it for the uninformed ranting of a reactionary hot-head that, let's face it, makes up a large portion of your posts.

Your posts could come out of any culturally leftist history.  You've synthesized Feeneyism and cultural marxism into a bizarre melange.

As an aside, I love America, though I still need to go down to the South of it and see the Andes.

Sure, you love America.  The people who've followed your increasingly deranged posts here can see you hate the United States and its people in a pathological way.  Something that could only come from French sense of inferiority nursed under the Jєωιѕн power that dominates the French.