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Worst case they can take a nap while the sermon is done, once a month in Spanish.

That's not the point Nadie.  I agree completely that walking out was wrong, but that's not the point.

By the way, a more common occurance is to hear a sermon EVERY SUNDAY in bad accent English, by a Frenchman,  Latin American, or Aussie, and not understand much of anything, to the point where your mind just shuts off from the overload.

The sermons can be understood.

This happens all the time and everywhere in the SSPX. That is MUCH worse than a sermon in Spanish once a month.

English speaking Catholics wanted sermons in the English language in an American Church.  Now you can talk all day that it isn't a big deal but they have an understandable motive for being discontent.

And I can speak English and Spanish, and am very patient with trying to understand bad English, as I have traveled all over the world on business and HAD to listen and understand. Unlike a sermon, which in the end won't cost you  money if you didn't understand it right, or at all.

Yes, you can, and people who live in the United States should be able to speak and understand English.

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Worst case they can take a nap while the sermon is done, once a month in Spanish.

That's not the point Nadie.  I agree completely that walking out was wrong, but that's not the point.

It's more worthy of consideration than some rah-rah US nativist nonsense.  Either the US is a melting pot or it's a country for and by Anglo-Germanic people exclusively.

English speaking Catholics wanted sermons in the English language in an American Church.

"American Church" ?  Maybe they should join the Southern Baptists or the Episcopalians or something.  As far as I know, there is no "American" language.  Anyway, there are (or perhaps were) multiple languages at that Southern California SSPX parish.  It seems like English-speaking Catholics wanted and English sermon and Spanish-speaking Catholics wanted a Spanish sermon, the priests were willing to please both parties, and the English-speaking Americatholics threw a hissy fit about having to hear Spanish in Southern California, forcing the SSPX to, somewhat predictably, buckle to their political and economic pressure.  You are acting as if the English-speaking Catholics are in the first tier of chapel-goers and the Spanish-speaking ones are in the second-tier.  Why ?  They just are, they just don't get as much say, because... they just don't.  They're not Uh-murrican.

Now you can talk all day that it isn't a big deal but they have an understandable motive for being discontent.

It's easy to understand how wrong they are, too.

Yes, you can, and people who live in the United States should be able to speak and understand English.

I knew it was going here.

To be brief, no, people who live in the United States are under no obligation whatsoever to speak and understand English.  Sioux need not speak English.  Acadians need not speak English.  New Mexicans and other Spanish need not speak English.  Perhaps the people who immigrated to the US, knowing it was an English-speaking country, are under some sort of obligation of common fairness to learn/speak English.  But Acadians, New Mexicans, the various Indian tribes, and the Mexicans returning to their ancestral land that was acquired and occupied by the US under circuмstances of incredibly questionable legality, should not be expected, pressured, or forced to speak English.  What about the Gullahs, too.  Their language developed alongside so-called "American English."  They shouldn't be expected to speak a language besides Gullah, either.

And, if the US is honest about being a melting pot or possessing universal principles, nobody should be expected to conform to the Anglo-Protestant culture and its language, etc.  But, since the US is serially dishonest about all that and instead expects everybody to dress, think, and act like WASPs, they should either stop pretending otherwise or they should stop complaining about people not speaking the local language of New England.  Southern California, North and South Dakota, Louisiana, Northern Maine, etc. -- these places are not their country; it is wrong when United-Statesians say "our country" and "our language" in reference to any place but the strip of land between the Appalachians and the Atlantic Ocean.

Anyway, I am curious, why should everybody within the US's imperial dominion speak the language of the imperial capital and the home country of the empire ?  What gives force to the "should" ?  Is it a moral obligation or what kind of obligation is it ?