Author Topic: USA Hispanics from the SSPX (Read 39739 times)

nadieimportante · « **Reply #20 on:** January 17, 2012, 09:12:29 PM »

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Fr. Hawker (of the Arcadia Priory) set up a once-a-month Spanish sermon to meet the needs of the Mexican and other Latino Catholics in the Colton, CA chapel (St. Joseph and IHM Chapel). During his sermon, a large majority of the (anglos) 'influential' families got up and left in disgust. This is why my family left our local SSPX chapels.

"A once a month sermon", That's it? And "a large majority" left in disgust?

That's not Catholic." Those people that walked out have not God's grace. What lack of fortitude, for I'm sure that the majority of those that walked out were just following one or two leaders (instigators).

Hey, if a sermon is lame, we all will tend to think of other things, though I try to keep it Catholic, maybe meditating about a passage in the gospel or in any other writing in the missal, or meditating on my own needs before God. What's the big deal about not listening/ tuning out a sermon in say Vietnamese once a month?

Those people who walked out are not Catholic.

Ii'm still in disbelief that it even happened Nadie!!!

It does not surprise me though. A strong personality can sway many (even the majority) to follow. Most people are cowardly sheeple afraid of words. I use real life occurances like this to show my children how to be strong, and to follow only truth.

"Wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.
Right is right even if no one is doing it." (Saint Augustine)

Telesphorus · « **Reply #21 on:** January 17, 2012, 09:15:59 PM »

While it was certainly very wrong for those people to walk out, I can understand the feeling of those who believe that in the United States sermons should be in English unless the parish is specifically spanish speaking. It is a big deal for the English speaking members of the congregation to have to listen to a sermon in a foreign tongue once a month. It does feel like displacement.

It's mistaken to call it racism. If they were racists why would they go to mass with non-whites? Objecting to the language is not racism.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #22 on:** January 17, 2012, 09:20:18 PM »

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"Wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.
Right is right even if no one is doing it." (Saint Augustine)

A great quote, my favorite.

nadieimportante · « **Reply #23 on:** January 17, 2012, 09:23:08 PM »

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Of course in crime statistics mestizos are counted as whites.

Are you sure about this? I would have thought everyone "South of the Border', even Brazilians, would be classified in the USA as "Hispanics".

Since there is no Hispanic category in the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports and approximately 93 percent of Hispanics identify themselves, or are identified by law enforcement officers, as white, most arrests of Hispanics are added to white violent crime rates.

http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/skewed-stats-distort-black-crime-reports/

I don't want to derail this thread, but from what I read, it sounds like they solved the problem of categorizing Hispanics as "White", by now re-categorizing them as "Black'.

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When the researchers adjusted for the Hispanic effect, there was little overall change in the black percentage of violent crime.

The way I read the article: The black figures were low because they did not include Hispanics as it use to include, but now that they add Hispanics to Black, the crime rate is the same as has always been for "blacks".

Sigismund · « **Reply #24 on:** January 17, 2012, 09:26:27 PM »

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There is No Such Thing as 'racism'.

Okay, what do YOU call it when someone hates someone else because of his or her race?