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Offline tradlover

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« on: June 20, 2012, 05:15:58 PM »
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  • Are the rank and file priests of the US district of the SSPX in favor with joining with Rome in your opinion?

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    « Reply #1 on: June 20, 2012, 05:22:04 PM »
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    Are the rank and file priests of the US district of the SSPX in favor with joining with Rome in your opinion?[/

    I know of only 1 who may oppose it.

    I know of many more who support it.

    Bishop Fellay did his work well here, unfortunately.
    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    -I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-


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    « Reply #2 on: June 20, 2012, 06:30:47 PM »
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  • I wonder if priests in the U.S. are saying anything privately vs being outspoken?  The priest at our chapel, if he is talking I've not heard yay or nay.  He may be talking with people in private, otherwise he is very quiet on the subject.

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    « Reply #3 on: June 20, 2012, 06:51:04 PM »
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    Are the rank and file priests of the US district of the SSPX in favor with joining with Rome in your opinion?[/

    I know of only 1 who may oppose it.

    I know of many more who support it.

    Bishop Fellay did his work well here, unfortunately.

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    Fellay put his people in charge here. You can see all those Frenchies all over the place.

    Nevertheless, I believe they are just keeping a cover on it. I know that there are many priests opposed, likely most are opposed to it.

    With all the French priests available, I always wondered why they send them to the USA, and send American priests to Asia and Australia. Now I know why.  

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    « Reply #4 on: June 20, 2012, 07:02:26 PM »
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  • There's opposed, and then there's opposed.  I doubt many priests in the US district are in favor of joining with NewRome.  The problem is, they have a blind trust in Bishop Fellay, and just think they have to blindly obey him, that he knows best or whatever, or that it's just a tactical error but not the end of the world and you have to go along with him.  There are very few who are against it enough to speak out, like the few Resistance priests have.


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    « Reply #5 on: June 20, 2012, 07:05:04 PM »
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    Are the rank and file priests of the US district of the SSPX in favor with joining with Rome in your opinion?[/

    I know of only 1 who may oppose it.

    I know of many more who support it.

    Bishop Fellay did his work well here, unfortunately.

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    Fellay put his people in charge here. You can see all those Frenchies all over the place.

    Nevertheless, I believe they are just keeping a cover on it. I know that there are many priests opposed, likely most are opposed to it.

    With all the French priests available, I always wondered why they send them to the USA, and send American priests to Asia and Australia. Now I know why.  


    Yep :scratchchin:
    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    -I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-

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    « Reply #6 on: June 20, 2012, 09:07:06 PM »
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  • Bishop Fellay stacked the deck in his favor. His people occupy most of the key positions. And now the chickens are coming home to roost.

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    « Reply #7 on: June 20, 2012, 09:10:28 PM »
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  • I know of some who will oppose in the United States or at least I think they will, I heard that a bunch of Priests bought that Catechism of the Crisis book after Father Girouard's sermon. There are also some priests who are starting to ask questions and they are not liking the answers.

    I believe alot of them are not informed, there are also some I hear that think the General Council will prevent a deal. If/when a deal is made you'll see more become vocal I think.

    Or is it just hope?


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    « Reply #8 on: June 20, 2012, 09:21:19 PM »
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  • I email my priest news every time a SSPX priest comes out against a deal, and have also promised him housing, stipend, insurance, privacy, car, etc if the time comes that he needs to make a decision.

    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    -I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-

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    « Reply #9 on: June 20, 2012, 10:01:30 PM »
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    Fellay put his people in charge here. ...


    He sure did, but may just have slightly misjudged the 'pioneer spirit'. There are more than a few (!) who would rather (not necessarily optimal choice, mind) go to SV chapels than ever darken the doors of a "Grand Unified Neo-SSPX". But Fr. Rostand's little propaganda trilogy was not for nothing. They're definitely feeling the pinch in contributions, so keep up the good work and hold all funds in reserve. Or otherwise of course, give your usual directly to the priests who have publicly shown their courage and common sense.

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    « Reply #10 on: June 21, 2012, 10:29:22 AM »
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  • how many american priests are sent overseas in the US and how many are in the USA.  I want percentages.


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    « Reply #11 on: June 21, 2012, 07:32:23 PM »
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    Fellay put his people in charge here. ...


    He sure did, but may just have slightly misjudged the 'pioneer spirit'. There are more than a few (!) who would rather (not necessarily optimal choice, mind) go to SV chapels than ever darken the doors of a "Grand Unified Neo-SSPX". But Fr. Rostand's little propaganda trilogy was not for nothing. They're definitely feeling the pinch in contributions, so keep up the good work and hold all funds in reserve. Or otherwise of course, give your usual directly to the priests who have publicly shown their courage and common sense.


    This is true...there are two SV chapels within 45 minute drive from my house..as well an independent about the same distance.  I live in Los Angeles county...there is certainly more choice for those in the bigger cities, and I believe that in the US...there will be many who will simply find an independent or SV chapel.  I know that very little is told the faithful anything these last several years if ever..they are very secretive about what is going on, but every now and then, they will speak out..lately I've heard that our priest is advising tolerance towards the newbies that may come to the chapel after a deal...charity that is...towards those who wear pants, or haven't a veil...that sort of thing...but he's a party-liner...always has been.

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    « Reply #12 on: June 21, 2012, 07:36:28 PM »
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    how many american priests are sent overseas in the US and how many are in the USA.  I want percentages.


    You can call the US District office and ask them.  They would have the most up-to-date figures.

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    « Reply #13 on: June 21, 2012, 07:40:55 PM »
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  • When they say "show charity" - it's not because people are being outrageously rude about the dress requirements.

    What it means is that they're going to get rid of the requirements, and the laity are supposed to shut up about it.

    Anyone opposed to the changes "lacks charity."


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    « Reply #14 on: June 21, 2012, 07:49:37 PM »
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    how many american priests are sent overseas in the US and how many are in the USA.  I want percentages.


    You can call the US District office and ask them.  They would have the most up-to-date figures.


    Wow,  why would this get a thumb down?  It was merely meant as trying to be helpful.  Who here can give jman123 the number and percentages?  I seen he started a thread asking the same question.  No one has answered him.  I was simply making a helpful suggestion that if he calls the District Office they would be able to give him the accurate number.  

     

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