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Offline SeanJohnson

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« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2012, 08:30:24 AM »
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    To whomever is monitoring my every post with a thumbs down, perhaps you can come out of hiding and have a reasonable discussion?  I hate cowards.


    I hate cowards as well. What I hate more is this thread. Why so defensive for those that do not follow the pack? Who seem to have independent thought?  I believe that it can do nothing but harm. Even if there are priests from the SSPX that are thought to be problematic it does not at this time have it's place on this forum, publicly.

    Why? Because right now this is a very confusing time for many regarding the upheaval within the SSPX. Both for Priests and the laity. This is calumny. These Priest are facing what can very easily be put into context, a microcosm= as those very good Priests during Vatican II, confusion with regards to obedience and faithfulness. They left Tradition, and many sadly left their vocation. Offering up of your time in saying multiple rosaries is the answer, not this disgusting thread.

    This thread is such a shame and nauseating. No one else should post any further names Priests, whether "Public, verified" or not that is suspected of errors. In fact this tread should be deleted, pronto.  All of our Priests, within the SSPX, trad., and yes even those within the NO need our prayers more than at any other time. The spiritual battles they are enduring have to be tremendous. It is our duty as laity to pray for them, lift them up and not disparge of their possible mistakes and, yes possible fall from grace.

    This is definitely a way for Satan and all in his dominion will continue to poach our Priests. What better way than creating discord amongst the laity, create confusion and no prayers offered because of this confusion. Thus having the Priests that are in such a huge spiritual battle with no power against the principalities of darkness??

    We must pray for all of these Priests, their spiritual battle is with one that seeks to devour their souls for eternity. Pray! Pray! Pray!

    Don't mistake me as being naive and doe-eyed.  On the contrary. But it is way too soon to even broach this subject and create a list.

    Again, this thread needs to be deleted.



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    3) Fr Pfluger
    4) Fr Alain Nely
    5) Fr Simmoulin
    6) Fr Thouvenot
    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    « Reply #31 on: June 30, 2012, 08:31:51 AM »
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    To whomever is monitoring my every post with a thumbs down, perhaps you can come out of hiding and have a reasonable discussion?  I hate cowards.


    I hate cowards as well. What I hate more is this thread. Why so defensive for those that do not follow the pack? Who seem to have independent thought?  I believe that it can do nothing but harm. Even if there are priests from the SSPX that are thought to be problematic it does not at this time have it's place on this forum, publicly.

    Why? Because right now this is a very confusing time for many regarding the upheaval within the SSPX. Both for Priests and the laity. This is calumny. These Priest are facing what can very easily be put into context, a microcosm= as those very good Priests during Vatican II, confusion with regards to obedience and faithfulness. They left Tradition, and many sadly left their vocation. Offering up of your time in saying multiple rosaries is the answer, not this disgusting thread.

    This thread is such a shame and nauseating. No one else should post any further names Priests, whether "Public, verified" or not that is suspected of errors. In fact this tread should be deleted, pronto.  All of our Priests, within the SSPX, trad., and yes even those within the NO need our prayers more than at any other time. The spiritual battles they are enduring have to be tremendous. It is our duty as laity to pray for them, lift them up and not disparge of their possible mistakes and, yes possible fall from grace.

    This is definitely a way for Satan and all in his domini will continue to poach our Priests. What better way than creating discord amongst the laity, create confusion and no prayers offered because of this confusion. Thus having the Priests that are in such a huge spiritual battle with no power against the principalities of darkness??

    We must pray for all of these Priests, their spiritual battle is with one that seeks to devour their souls for eternity. Pray! Pray! Pray!



    Don't mistake me as being naive and doe-eyed.  On the contrary. But it is way too soon to even broach this subject and create a list.

    Again, this thread needs to be deleted.



    2) Fr Franz Schmidberger
    3) Fr Pfluger
    4) Fr Alain Nely
    5) Fr Simmoulin
    6) Fr Thouvenot


    Not in the USA though.
    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    -I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-



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    « Reply #32 on: June 30, 2012, 10:37:58 AM »
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    I'm sorry Wisconsin sheep girl that you were so offended.  However, I for one have to respectfully disagree with you.  I just read the "Heads Will Roll" article by Rivarol, the French Newsletter, and that coupled with the info about Krah and Bp F's abuse of power towards very good priests and Bishops makes me realize we are in a WAR.  War cannot be fought without using tactics that are not pleasant.  That doesn't mean we should jump to conclusions about priests, and report "rumors", but if it is a documented case of a priest following the dictatorial policies of Bp F, like Fr Rostand, I can't see why it should not be exposed, to protect the faithful.  There is too much deceit today in Rome, and it is obvious that has entered the SSP too. We need to be transparent to help one another.  My opinion.


    I would totally agree!  Those that publicly came out against this did so very bravely and put much on the line.  Those that are quite; well, any wait and see is perhaps prudent, even charitable, but those that come out in favor do so without knowing the consequences of a major backfire.  They make their own list; others just publish it.  It is being said that if all goes +Fellay's way- the modernists will turn on him and shame him.  It is being suggested they will even strip him and the other three of the Bishopric. Now, that would truly be humiliating to +Fellay if it turns out that "Cardinal" has been on his list of ambitions.  No one is going to expose anyone with out their consent FIRST!

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    « Reply #33 on: June 30, 2012, 11:07:20 AM »
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    It is being suggested they will even strip him and the other three of the Bishopric. Now, that would truly be humiliating to +Fellay if it turns out that "Cardinal" has been on his list of ambitions.



    May I ask who is suggesting this?  It is the first I heard of it.

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    « Reply #34 on: June 30, 2012, 11:52:16 AM »
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  • You'll have to "look around" (net surf), but its not hard to find.  Even though they are 'hated' by some, they are often right.


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    « Reply #35 on: June 30, 2012, 06:17:54 PM »
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    To whomever is monitoring my every post with a thumbs down, perhaps you can come out of hiding and have a reasonable discussion?  I hate cowards.


    Maybe St. Mary's teenagers were assigned the task?
    St. Mary's is most loyal to the personality cult of Msgr. Fellay.
    The lost children... of Mein Furher's bunker


    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #36 on: June 30, 2012, 06:41:03 PM »
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    To whomever is monitoring my every post with a thumbs down, perhaps you can come out of hiding and have a reasonable discussion?  I hate cowards.


    Maybe St. Mary's teenagers were assigned the task?
    St. Mary's is most loyal to the personality cult of Msgr. Fellay.
    The lost children... of Mein Furher's bunker




    Incredulous, you hit the nail on the head.

    In St. Mary's when it comes to Kool-Aid, most super-size it.

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    « Reply #37 on: June 30, 2012, 09:55:24 PM »
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    To whomever is monitoring my every post with a thumbs down, perhaps you can come out of hiding and have a reasonable discussion?  I hate cowards.


    Maybe St. Mary's teenagers were assigned the task?
    St. Mary's is most loyal to the personality cult of Msgr. Fellay.
    The lost children... of Mein Furher's bunker




    Incredulous, you hit the nail on the head.

    In St. Mary's when it comes to Kool-Aid, most super-size it.

    :facepalm:


    I've heard it said: "no salvation outside of St. Mary's"....and it came from someone who lives in St. Mary's!  Go figure 'despicable'!!!  :light-saber:


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    « Reply #38 on: June 30, 2012, 10:01:14 PM »
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  • Those of you who are now running down children at St. Mary's are despicable.  Go back and re-read your posts and then consider what you may have prayed this morning about the words coming out of your mouths or in this case anonymous postings on a forum.  Let your identities be known then make your snide comments.  You are not defending the faith, but running it into the gutter.  This whole crisis in the forums is becoming a play pen for nameless cowards.  

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    « Reply #39 on: June 30, 2012, 10:09:30 PM »
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    Those of you who are now running down children at St. Mary's are despicable.  Go back and re-read your posts and then consider what you may have prayed this morning about the words coming out of your mouths or in this case anonymous postings on a forum.  Let your identities be known then make your snide comments.  You are not defending the faith, but running it into the gutter.  This whole crisis in the forums is becoming a play pen for nameless cowards.  


    Thank you, Nickolas.  The last comment about "No salvation outside of St. Mary's", is an example of childish immaturity.   Just like I read on another thread, rashly saying someone was "jealous, lurking, reject..."   Do people not realize they will be held to account for every calumny they utter?  Where are folks' Catholic bearings?

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    « Reply #40 on: July 05, 2012, 04:08:36 PM »
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    Maybe St. Mary's teenagers were assigned the task?
    St. Mary's is most loyal to the personality cult of Msgr. Fellay.
    The lost children... of Mein Furher's bunker




    Incredulous, you hit the nail on the head.

    In St. Mary's when it comes to Kool-Aid, most super-size it.

    :facepalm:


    I've heard it said: "no salvation outside of St. Mary's"....and it came from someone who lives in St. Mary's!  Go figure 'despicable'!!!  :light-saber:


    Roman, Ferdinand, and Incredulous,

    Classy. You all three demonstrate what it means to be Catholic gentlemen (or ladies).  

    Or then again maybe not.



     


    Tomas,

    Thank you for your criticism.  It seems we hit a nerve.

    I'm familiar with the St. Mary's culture and they are somewhat affected by a "bunker" mentality. Not to say that they are bad people, maybe just a little eccentric?

    A bunker mentality is a bit like the "island mentality"...
    "it's us against them" attitude.  After all, they bought the farm, made the big commitment to the SSPX.

    In the past year, I've also noticed a high rate of loyalty to Bp. Fellay coming from St. Mary's respondents on the Ignis Ardens forum.  John Dellalo's posts are a good example of this.

    If making jest about the St. Mary's culture is uncharitable, I apologize.



    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


     

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